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Not to be negative, but I quit. Back to NWN.


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It seems to me that if the game is so difficult that you end up restarting every battle, yet you knowingly have it set on the hardest difficulty, the solution to your woes would be to turn the difficulty down.



The game is certainly not designed so you must keep restarting combat, ie "rolling the dice" for every encounter.

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Sepultro wrote...

I'm getting frusted too, still not ready to quit. I need help learning to use my tactics and win battles, but my problem is I can't seem to find anything good that I can use to improve. Right now The battles are too quick and my AI guys get mauked and don't offer any assistance to me. I end up winning battles by myself. Could anyone offer advice?


I can get with this post at least you are looking for help. 

Tactics: I am no tactician in real life or in the game.  I use it when I need to hoenstly as I am more comfortable cycling through my party like a rabid monkey.  But that is me.  I did find though the more I played with tactics and toyed around with different combinations the more sense it made to use them.  Do you play WoW or other MMO's?  If so just them of them as macros that you would write for a hot key.  Never wrote a macro?  No problem easiest way to explain the tactics system is this.  The left hand side is your target (you, ally, monster etc etc) right hand side is the action. 

Your best tactic on your warriors in the beginning of the game is Self below 50% health the use Health Poultice.

That is the most help I can offer sadly as I just started truly using tactics myself.  As I stated I am no expert.  Others are.  And if you are decent about asking your questions you could probably find help.  Just be mature and polite about it and don't start it off by saying the game sucks.  Then you would get no responses.

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Well for a post that states "Not to be negative" you are very.... negative.

Well well, that being said, have fun in NwN2!

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We already got your support with the purchase of the game. Have fun not being in Ferelden.

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I find the game has just enough challenges to keep me interested. I definetly will not be quitting a going back to NWN. I still play a variety of RPG's such as Oblivion, NWN2, Witcher, Two Worlds just to name a few. But I'm really enjoying DA:O.

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Sounds like you just suck at the game and are mad about it



Lower the difficulty nub




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dweber77 wrote...

Sepultro wrote...

I'm getting frusted too, still not ready to quit. I need help learning to use my tactics and win battles, but my problem is I can't seem to find anything good that I can use to improve. Right now The battles are too quick and my AI guys get mauked and don't offer any assistance to me. I end up winning battles by myself. Could anyone offer advice?


I can get with this post at least you are looking for help. 

Tactics: I am no tactician in real life or in the game.  I use it when I need to hoenstly as I am more comfortable cycling through my party like a rabid monkey.  But that is me.  I did find though the more I played with tactics and toyed around with different combinations the more sense it made to use them.  Do you play WoW or other MMO's?  If so just them of them as macros that you would write for a hot key.  Never wrote a macro?  No problem easiest way to explain the tactics system is this.  The left hand side is your target (you, ally, monster etc etc) right hand side is the action. 

Your best tactic on your warriors in the beginning of the game is Self below 50% health the use Health Poultice.

That is the most help I can offer sadly as I just started truly using tactics myself.  As I stated I am no expert.  Others are.  And if you are decent about asking your questions you could probably find help.  Just be mature and polite about it and don't start it off by saying the game sucks.  Then you would get no responses.


It does Suck compared to WOW. I loved that game I played hours upon hours. I guess my biggest problem is getting used to going from PC WOW to console DAO. I guess I expected too much. I am giving this game a fair chance and am playing it and getting better, it just frustrating to win one battle move down a hallway and get into another battle and everyone gets wasted without anychance to defend of made heal eveyone in time to give myself a chance. it annoying.

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I'm playing on the most difficult setting, just looking for some kind of challenge, and all it does is make me have to continually restart the battles hoping for a better roll of the dice.




Why would you play a game you just got on the hardest difficulty? You do not even fully understand the combat system yet. No wonder you are frustrated but you cannot claim the game failed because of your own bad choices.

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Sepultro wrote...

.....it just frustrating to win one battle move down a hallway and get into another battle and everyone gets wasted without anychance to defend of made heal eveyone in time to give myself a chance. it annoying.



theres your problem right there.......your running into a barbed wire fence...and not even raising your arms to protect your eyes.

no body's fault but yer own brah.

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Nonstickron wrote...

Can I have your stuff?


you beat me to it.

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Sepultro wrote...

dweber77 wrote...

Sepultro wrote...

I'm getting frusted too, still not ready to quit. I need help learning to use my tactics and win battles, but my problem is I can't seem to find anything good that I can use to improve. Right now The battles are too quick and my AI guys get mauked and don't offer any assistance to me. I end up winning battles by myself. Could anyone offer advice?


I can get with this post at least you are looking for help. 

Tactics: I am no tactician in real life or in the game.  I use it when I need to hoenstly as I am more comfortable cycling through my party like a rabid monkey.  But that is me.  I did find though the more I played with tactics and toyed around with different combinations the more sense it made to use them.  Do you play WoW or other MMO's?  If so just them of them as macros that you would write for a hot key.  Never wrote a macro?  No problem easiest way to explain the tactics system is this.  The left hand side is your target (you, ally, monster etc etc) right hand side is the action. 

Your best tactic on your warriors in the beginning of the game is Self below 50% health the use Health Poultice.

That is the most help I can offer sadly as I just started truly using tactics myself.  As I stated I am no expert.  Others are.  And if you are decent about asking your questions you could probably find help.  Just be mature and polite about it and don't start it off by saying the game sucks.  Then you would get no responses.


It does Suck compared to WOW. I loved that game I played hours upon hours. I guess my biggest problem is getting used to going from PC WOW to console DAO. I guess I expected too much. I am giving this game a fair chance and am playing it and getting better, it just frustrating to win one battle move down a hallway and get into another battle and everyone gets wasted without anychance to defend of made heal eveyone in time to give myself a chance. it annoying.


It is a heck of a switch and as you get used to it, it will grow on you.  I felt the same way about WoW.  I started off in console RPG's a long time ago then Everquest came along and I hated that.  Then I tried WoW.  At first I hated it and could not understand anything so I gave it a chance and it grew on me.  Took me forever to understand Macros but once I got it, I got it.  Tactics are the same way.  It takes some tinkering around with and once you understand it, you understand it and it makes life much easier. 

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Common sence isn't so common :)

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So you want an easy game that you can just walkthrough and own everything? Put it on easy or get better at the game. Or you can try throwing a balloon in the air and catching it.

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artmonster1967 wrote...

Sepultro wrote...

.....it just frustrating to win one battle move down a hallway and get into another battle and everyone gets wasted without anychance to defend of made heal eveyone in time to give myself a chance. it annoying.



theres your problem right there.......your running into a barbed wire fence...and not even raising your arms to protect your eyes.

no body's fault but yer own brah.

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Well help me then give me some advice? Why is it some guys are super easy to kill and others seem impossible for example I am in the in the Ruins Temple and I go from killing a group in 20 secs with ease to turring a corner in an ambush and getting absolutley wasted without even a chance to heal up during the battle or managing my party to fight stategically? Also help me understand how to see Traps and keep my guys from being stunned? I guess I need to learn what potions work with what and I don't think it's easy to find out. They descriptions are vage and I don't know what to use and when I need to use it before I get destroyed. Help me out so I can get better and hopefully I will get fully into this game.

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Eidolonn wrote...

Sitting in front of a computer, using a keyboard, mouse, and monitor, completely breaks the immersion. I demand that BioWare provides me with a complete virtual gaming experience.


OMG I love your post.  Its great.  Seriously I agree.  What are people thinking.  I think anyone that is that pissed about a game, which in my opinion is great must be dissapointed at their own lives if they rage so much at a game which in my opinion is rather polished.  I have only found 2 real bugs that "bugged" me.  It was mainly in the Tower at the end where the ansestor of Sophia is supposed to be a vendor.  I figure that he will work sometimes soon with a patch or just going back to him later.  But seriously people..if this game is not what you expected, then what did you intend on buying?  Hello Kitty Island Adventure?

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drizz78 wrote...

Common sence isn't so common :)


Apparently "sense" is not common. LOL

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Sepultro wrote...

drizz78 wrote...

Common sence isn't so common :)


Apparently "sense" is not common. LOL


you have that some times, on big jobs like this.

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Thanks for playing.

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zinthalis wrote...

There are many flaws here, and it's just not what I would expect from the Baldur's Gate people. I have decided that this game does not do it for me. I was really looking forward to it, but the only emotion the game seems to be eliciting is anger... and a fair bit of disappointment. If I don't see a point in continuing, then that's not my fault is it? I love RPGs, but this is not what I would expect from Bioware. Games are supposed to improve with time, become more complex and intricate. I'm playing on the most difficult setting, just looking for some kind of challenge, and all it does is make me have to continually restart the battles hoping for a better roll of the dice. There's more to an RPG than restarting battles. I mean, the dialogue often leads you to the same spot no matter what you say. This is an action game, and it doesn't draw me in like a quality RPG. I was hoping for a new RPG addiction, but sadly I did not find it in Dragon Age: Origins. The only reason I'd finish at this point is just for the sake of finishing. I appreciate the work that must have gone into the theatrics and design, but I'm sure there were developers who felt it wasn't finished. I'm sure a few knew they were releasing less than a whole game. I'm done for now anyway, and I the only reason I'd pick up again is out of bordom. That's two failed picks in a row for me now (The Witcher). I think I might go back to NWN2.


To be quite blunt, I bet you'd hate BG2 if it was released today.  THAT game had random chance involved.  Every time *I* have to restart it's because I screwed up tactics or forgot to turn off NPC AI and they went and did something retarded.  I flat out love that status effects almost ALWAYS work.  

Modifié par Curry Noodles, 06 novembre 2009 - 07:05 .


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BW_Lee wrote...

The game is certainly not designed so you must keep restarting combat, ie "rolling the dice" for every encounter.

Are you sure?  Maybe one of your collegues updated the code moments before you went gold and didn't tell anyone. :bandit:B)

I rarely have to reload, mind you, but still, I'm only at the near beginning of the game (just hit Redcliffe), but every confrontation is like a boss battle, and I can only imagine it's going to get more difficult as time goes on. :blink:

I don't mind a challenge, but this game is exhausting -- literally. =]

On a side note, I really wish you would make it an option in a future patch to enable/disable friendly fire regardless of difficulty level.  No one can argue that blowing up a mob is fun stuff, and isn't that point of  a game?   To have fun?  :whistle:  (And no, it's not fun to blow up stuff when you whole party dies because of it.  And no, it's not fun playing in God --- er, I mean Easy -- mode.)

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I wouldn't do RedCliffe first if you are already having a hard time with the tactical aspect of the game, since it contains probably one of the harder battles in Dragon Age.



I would recommended playing in easy mode until you have leveled up enough to unlock more abilities. Then switching back to normal to see if you are more successful.

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I'd respond seriously, but the OP didn't.



You max difficulty and then complain that you have to restart battles? Are you seriously saying that this game is not as good as that cookie-cutter NWN POS?



Honestly, you must be trolling to think NWN main campaign > this. It's really hard to fathom you being anything other than a troll.

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How does the saying go? ONE battle full of bad dice rolls is unfortunate....

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Sepultro wrote...

I'm getting frusted too, still not ready to quit. I need help learning to use my tactics and win battles, but my problem is I can't seem to find anything good that I can use to improve. Right now The battles are too quick and my AI guys get mauked and don't offer any assistance to me. I end up winning battles by myself. Could anyone offer advice?


Battles are too quick?
(If the answer is yes you might think i'm making fun of you, so just so you know the following is a serious question) 
Did you know you could pause battles?

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Ha ha i can't help but laugh. These kinds of posts are always funny. I never know why people complain about difficulty and never lowers it. Is it because some people just can't face the fact that they don't know the game or are just very bad at it?



And who would go back to NWN? i love bioware, But i just hate NWM. It is one rely boring rpg if you ask me. Baldur's Gate is one of the best RPGs ever made. But NWN just failed horribly. personal opinion of course.