Excluding Mass Effect Revelation, since my focus is on Ascension and the upcoming Retribution. I'm sorry if it's the wrong section, but considering the General Mass Effect forum doesn't allow spoilers, I'll put it in this, considering the Novels will bridge ME2 and 3 imo.
If you read the novels or spoil yourself on them; continue. If not, stop.
If any Mass Effect fans know, it's that the novels can be considered as canon. It's probably confirmed, but I haven't checked up on it. If anyone played Mass Effect 2 and read Ascension, then it ties up on how one of the Quarian Flotilla was attacked, as Ascension shows that Paul Grayson was the one who attacked the Flotilla. I haven't read Ascension, but I spoiled myself on it. There's probably more reference in ME2 to Ascension, but I need to read the novel first.
In the end of Ascension, Paul Grayson betrayed Cerberus and took Gillian, in which the Illusive Man wanted for his project; the ascension project.
Moving onto Retribution, the synopsis shows that Paul has been kidnapped by Cerberus and the Illusive Man ordered Paul to be experimented on... with Reaper Technology as revenge.
Okay... If Paul does indeed survives at the end of Retribution, then what's the chances of him appearing in Mass Effect 3? I'll probably say quite highly, considering he'll have Reaper Technology inside him. I believe he'll be a fugitive on the run, trying to hide himself from Cerberus. Or Shepard finds out what Illusive Man have done, which will add more to the stress aside from the Reapers.
And let's not forget, but the Reapers might have a use for him.
PS: For Tali fans, she'll probably have more of a motive for tagging along with Shepard, considering Paul attacked her people. And she wouldn't take it lightly if his exsitence is endagering everyone.
How the Novels may carry over into Three. -Spoilers for non-novel readers-
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Posté 08 février 2010 - 10:26
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Except Anderson no characters from the novels seem to appear in the game. Ok, the Illusive Man, but he's too important a figure. I kind of doubt they'll introduce him to us. Those side-stories are quite separate.
However, I wouldn't be surprised if Miranda was in the novel.
However, I wouldn't be surprised if Miranda was in the novel.
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Posté 08 février 2010 - 10:31
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xMister Vx wrote...
Except Anderson no characters from the novels seem to appear in the game. Ok, the Illusive Man, but he's too important a figure. I kind of doubt they'll introduce him to us. Those side-stories are quite separate.
I thought that too, but the Illusive Man was introduced as a character in ME2. And I firmly believe that Cerberus being nothing more than a pro-human splinter group still pursue in the Game Universe.
I would like if Paul was introduced in three, providing the player don't need to read the Novels to understand it. If there's any references, it should be an easter egg kind, nothing more. I mean, the most basic of information of "Cerberus experimented on Paul with Reaper Technology, now he's on the loose' would be a driving plot device for Shepard in my opinion without the aid of the novels.
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Posté 08 février 2010 - 10:35
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Paul would be cool, but from what I gathered from his character, he would probably rather die than to be a huge threat to the galaxy and his daughter, who is now on a quarian ship looking for a world to colonize. Though, with Reaper tech, he may not be himself by the end. What a tragic character, I kind of like him.
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Posté 08 février 2010 - 10:41
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Retribution will reveal many secrets
'Retribution is set in the universe fans know well from the video game and novel series—one in which humanity has explored the very farthest reaches of the universe, only to discover the ruthless Reapers, a race bent on extinguishing all organic life. One man is bent on discovering the Reapers' secrets, the mysterious Illusive Man, the leader of a pro-human, black ops group, Cerberus. And he's devised the perfect plan: implant a human subject with Reaper technology in order to study the enemy.
He also has the perfect test subject—Paul Grayson, an ex-Cerberus operative. Grayson betrayed Cerberus in order to save his daughter. So when Grayson is kidnapped and made the subject of Cerberus' evil experiments, the Illusive Man will finally have his revenge...'
http://masseffect.bi...m/market/books/
'Retribution is set in the universe fans know well from the video game and novel series—one in which humanity has explored the very farthest reaches of the universe, only to discover the ruthless Reapers, a race bent on extinguishing all organic life. One man is bent on discovering the Reapers' secrets, the mysterious Illusive Man, the leader of a pro-human, black ops group, Cerberus. And he's devised the perfect plan: implant a human subject with Reaper technology in order to study the enemy.
He also has the perfect test subject—Paul Grayson, an ex-Cerberus operative. Grayson betrayed Cerberus in order to save his daughter. So when Grayson is kidnapped and made the subject of Cerberus' evil experiments, the Illusive Man will finally have his revenge...'
http://masseffect.bi...m/market/books/
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Posté 08 février 2010 - 10:42
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DaerogTheDhampir wrote...
Paul would be cool, but from what I gathered from his character, he would probably rather die than to be a huge threat to the galaxy and his daughter, who is now on a quarian ship looking for a world to colonize. Though, with Reaper tech, he may not be himself by the end. What a tragic character, I kind of like him.
I agree, He seems like a well-developed character. The Illusive Man was brought over from the Novels into two, and he quickly turned into one of my most favourite characters. It would be quite sad if Paul isn't given the chance to have some sort of role in ME3. I would be content with a minor role, though I believe he'll benefit more with a major role or the big, bold red title "Antagonist"
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Posté 08 février 2010 - 10:43
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I actually liked his character alot. It is a shame that this happens to him. It does show my friend whe felt TIM was not a bad guy that he was incredibly wrong though.
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Posté 08 février 2010 - 10:44
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Drew, the guy who writes the books, is one of the lead writers for Mass Effect and Mass Effect 2. So yes, they can be considered as Canon.
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Posté 08 février 2010 - 10:44
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Perhaps Paul will be the key to disabling all the Reapers? Dun, dun, dunnnnnn.
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Posté 08 février 2010 - 10:46
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DeadlyParasite wrote...
Drew, the guy who writes the books, is one of the lead writers for Mass Effect and Mass Effect 2. So yes, they can be considered as Canon.
He wasn't lead writer for ME2, he is busy writing for SW:TOR.
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Posté 08 février 2010 - 10:48
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Just my two cents. I think it would be cool if you saw some of the characters in ME3. Kahlee could help Shepard out somehow(She's a genius, she could figure it out!) Not sure about Gillian. Personally I wouldn't mind Hendel either, that would shut up a lot of people for entirely different reasons though. 
I have no idea where they plan on taking Grayson though. Will be an interesting read for sure.
I have no idea where they plan on taking Grayson though. Will be an interesting read for sure.
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Posté 08 février 2010 - 10:52
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I put my money on the possibility to recruit Paul as a crew member in ME3, where in his side/loyalty mission you'll learn more about his history for those people who didn't read the novels.
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Posté 08 février 2010 - 10:53
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DaerogTheDhampir wrote...
Perhaps Paul will be the key to disabling all the Reapers? Dun, dun, dunnnnnn.
I hope for a more interesting plot device than that =/ But I bet it'll be on bioware's cards if they do plan on using Grayson for ME3.
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Posté 08 février 2010 - 10:55
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Moving onto Retribution, the synopsis shows that Paul has been kidnapped by Cerberus and the Illusive Man ordered Paul to be experimented on... with Reaper Technology as revenge.
that in my book is a fundemantly is a VERY BAD MOVE on part of TIM.
which im guessing will either make paul uber powerful or Harbinger will assume control and screw everything up.
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Posté 08 février 2010 - 10:59
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DaerogTheDhampir wrote...
DeadlyParasite wrote...
Drew, the guy who writes the books, is one of the lead writers for Mass Effect and Mass Effect 2. So yes, they can be considered as Canon.
He wasn't lead writer for ME2, he is busy writing for SW:TOR.
In-game credits seems to disagree with you.
But yes, i know he's working on SW:TOR.
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Posté 08 février 2010 - 11:00
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Shock35 wrote...
Moving onto Retribution, the synopsis shows that Paul has been kidnapped by Cerberus and the Illusive Man ordered Paul to be experimented on... with Reaper Technology as revenge.
that in my book is a fundemantly is a VERY BAD MOVE on part of TIM.
which im guessing will either make paul uber powerful or Harbinger will assume control and screw everything up.
It was also a bad move for TIM to revive back Shepard, considering if he went the Paragon Route, he was to destroy the base. He's taking a very high risk; and it seems TIM loves to take risk if it benefits humanity on the whole.
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Posté 08 février 2010 - 11:10
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Chrono Mizaki wrote...
Shock35 wrote...
Moving onto Retribution, the synopsis shows that Paul has been kidnapped by Cerberus and the Illusive Man ordered Paul to be experimented on... with Reaper Technology as revenge.
that in my book is a fundemantly is a VERY BAD MOVE on part of TIM.
which im guessing will either make paul uber powerful or Harbinger will assume control and screw everything up.
It was also a bad move for TIM to revive back Shepard, considering if he went the Paragon Route, he was to destroy the base. He's taking a very high risk; and it seems TIM loves to take risk if it benefits humanity on the whole.
well TIM still wins either way with Shepard either capturing the base or blowing it up. the collecters threat is killed off anyways so he's job so Shepard did what he needed to do. the question was how much does he win by (a lot in terms of now having the base or just a little bit via just making sure a threat to humanity is dealt with).
now implanting a person with reaper techology and only that but this person hates you seems like a bad move considering how many ways it can go horrorably wrong..
which is why im going to pick up the book when it comes out
