Wait, back up, they don't?Jigero wrote...
Uh sorry to point this out but Nukes don't work in space, not unless you hit the thing dead on, seeing as how the Reapers have the biggest Ezeo Cores in the known galaxy, they probably won't get anywhere near it.
VanguardtoDestruction wrote...
Roffkaiser wrote...
As is quoted multiple times in ME, a Dreadnought's main gun generates more force than the 2 bombs dropped in WWII, and it can shoot them out every few moments so why spend all the time making a bunch of A-bombs when you can shoot out a chunk of metal that costs like 10 bucks and does the same damage?
Yeah, except I would imagine at the time of ME the nukes far surpass even 1000 megatons if they tried to make one. Like I said, todays H-Bombs are 50 megatons. It is only the cheapness, easiness, and effectiveness of it against non-reaper enemies that keeps them using the plain metal chunks. Now that there are Reapers though, it would be a good idea to research more powerful weaponry.
Those Thanix Cannons are an example of how outdated the Ship Bases Mass Effect cannons are. Its just like today, with machine guns. There is no reason to upgrade since they are still effective against our enemies. If however, Russia developed a bullet resistent suit that made guns useless, we would need to develop better tech.
Same thing with the advent of the Reapers.
Most of the the energy would be directed AWAY from whatever you're trying to nuke, unlike a mass accelerator where most of the energy goes straight into the target.Agamo45 wrote...
Nuclear weapons aren't nearly as effective in space as they are on planet surfaces, since much of the damage has to do with the size of the fireball. There is no air in space so there can't be a fireball.
SharpEdgeSoda wrote...
Wait, back up, they don't?Jigero wrote...
Uh sorry to point this out but Nukes don't work in space, not unless you hit the thing dead on, seeing as how the Reapers have the biggest Ezeo Cores in the known galaxy, they probably won't get anywhere near it.
If that's true then several fictional sources have lied to me...
I am going to need a minute...
Alocormin wrote...
Aren't the kinetic slugs launched by a dreadnaught more devastating in energy output than a normal, city-buster sized nuke? How would a nuke be more likely to overload a kinetic barrier, in that case? Do kinetic barriers simply slow objects that are moving fast? Doesn't that demand raw energy dispersal of some form, which would be equal to what was required for fighting a nuke?
SharpEdgeSoda wrote...
Stealth Nukes.
That's my only answer.
Stealth Nukes that go fast enogh and are small enogh that by the time you notice them, It's too late.
The Normandy while running silent can only get detected by visual, whose the say a nuke can't have similar "heat hiding" tech.
marshalleck wrote...
You're right, stealth totally works against Reaper tech, that's how the SR-1 was able to evade the Collectors in the opening scene of ME2.
Modifié par Vaenier, 09 février 2010 - 02:21 .
Roffkaiser wrote...
That have been researching more powerful weaponry in the form of the guns you can research for the Normandy. Those puppies dusted a highly advanced Cruiser, so who knows what Dreadnought sized cannons of that type would do. Not to mention we have only seen one Dreadnought in the game and it was crewed by crappy Asari, where as a fleet of twenty something Cruisers killed a Reaper, what would happen in the "Final Battle" against the Reapers where you have dozens of Dreadnoughts? It would be a true Battle of the Titans.
The Reapers were devastating against cruisers, while not confirmed of course, a fighter could prove harder to hit due to the firing lag the Reaper suffers with at least its main armament. We don't know if they have GARDIAN equivalents but it's safe to assume they might (if not at least their lightning conductive abilities). Fighters piloted by VI's at least would make them quite 'expendable.'
The use of all weapons of mass destruction on planet populations is illegal at this point, and yes Dreadnought main guns are considered WMDs. So the nuke is illegal as you say as well as having booby trapped probes flying through space may not seem the most responsible thing ever.The_mango55 wrote...
Honestly humanity probably doesn't have nukes anymore either at this point.
Remember the mission where you had to disarm the nuke, Hackett claims if the council even found out about the nuke there would be sanctions.
It's not because it does a lot of damage that they are banned, but because they leave long term environmental problems.
Nyaore wrote...
I'm pretty sure nukes have become obsolete by this time, or were changed into a much more efficient format. The Krogan apparently nuked their planet to oblivion, so it's obvious that at least one other species was able to make that technology.
VanguardtoDestruction wrote...
GooftyGoober wrote...
Yeah nukes are useless by the time ME takes place since they can get bigger explosions from Mass Effect rounds fired from their dreadnoughts.
Not Necessarily, I think it is only a 37 kiloton impact. Even the Hydrogen Bombs today are 50 Megatons.
I just think it is much faster and more accurate then trying to fire a slow Nuke Missile, especially when you have GARDIAN lasers like the above posters said.
Jigero wrote...
SharpEdgeSoda wrote...
Wait, back up, they don't?Jigero wrote...
Uh
sorry to point this out but Nukes don't work in space, not unless you
hit the thing dead on, seeing as how the Reapers have the biggest Ezeo
Cores in the known galaxy, they probably won't get anywhere near it.
If that's true then several fictional sources have lied to me... ../../../images/forum/emoticons/crying.png
I am going to need a minute...
Nope,
a nukes devistating force is heat and pressure wave, if they blow up
before they hit the target they will die right there, no air particals
to hold the pressure wave and the heat will bleed off quickly. The
only thing that will do any damage is the neutrinos from the radiation,
but you can hardly call it damage.
Modifié par Giantevilhead, 09 février 2010 - 03:13 .
Again, Why not just shoot the radiation in beams?Giantevilhead wrote...
VanguardtoDestruction wrote...
GooftyGoober wrote...
Yeah nukes are useless by the time ME takes place since they can get bigger explosions from Mass Effect rounds fired from their dreadnoughts.
Not Necessarily, I think it is only a 37 kiloton impact. Even the Hydrogen Bombs today are 50 Megatons.
I just think it is much faster and more accurate then trying to fire a slow Nuke Missile, especially when you have GARDIAN lasers like the above posters said.
Actually, the most powerful nuke ever built/tested had a yield of 50 megatons. The average nuclear warhead has a yield in the hundreds of kilotons.Jigero wrote...
SharpEdgeSoda wrote...
Wait, back up, they don't?Jigero wrote...
Uh
sorry to point this out but Nukes don't work in space, not unless you
hit the thing dead on, seeing as how the Reapers have the biggest Ezeo
Cores in the known galaxy, they probably won't get anywhere near it.
If that's true then several fictional sources have lied to me... ../../../images/forum/emoticons/crying.png
I am going to need a minute...
Nope,
a nukes devistating force is heat and pressure wave, if they blow up
before they hit the target they will die right there, no air particals
to hold the pressure wave and the heat will bleed off quickly. The
only thing that will do any damage is the neutrinos from the radiation,
but you can hardly call it damage.
The radiation is more than enough to melt through metal. Warheads can be designed to shape the direction of the nuclear blast so you'll get more than 20% to50% of the energy hitting the target, depending on how far the nuke detonates from its target.
The biggest problems with using nukes or any kind of missiles is that they're way too slow and they need computerized components for navigation. They'll fall to easily to ECM's and point defense weapons.
Mass effect fields also protect against radiation. Look at Haestrom. Light from the star vaporized that bug but your shields still protected you.
Because all their technology is based on what the Reapers left behind and the Reapers didn't leave a super laser for them.Shinigami013 wrote...
Again, Why not just shoot the radiation in beams?
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