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[KrystylSky]

I want to see Cullen become a Grey Warden with me and be my love interest. I love his character and after his stand against the demons in the Circle I think he is strong enough to tackle Darkspawn!

Who else agrees?

[RBCharger]

You must be playing a female mage and liked how he had fantasized about you? Ha. I found him extremely narrow minded and paranoid. "Kill all the mages. They could secretly be possessed and we wouldn't know it." He has definitely learned his chantry teachings very well. I think he would be more whinny than Alistair if he were a party member.

[KrystylSky]

well one could harden him and i could work a little "female magic" on him to make him see the light

[Xetirox]

Cullen would make a ****** poor Warden. First, he's unable to do his job as a Templar, showing an unwillingness and reluctance to cut down a mage undergoing his/her own Harrowing in the case that they become an Abomination. And then, after being exposed to Abominations, he goes off the deep end, and believes that every mage out there is an abomination, culminating in him finally snapping and committing cold-blooded murder. Post-Broken Circle, he's just too mentally unstable to be of use to anyone, and before that, he's too wishy-washy to be able to do what may need to be done.



I honestly have no idea why this guy has such a following.

[KrystylSky]

Lol - Its the brown eyes and curly hair and as Alistair would say "I'm a sucker for good tailoring."

and a lot of the party members are kinda winey lol and many start off wishy washy lol thats why we in our infinite wisdom are the leaders

[coldblossom]

I agree. There is actually a project about trying to write him up as a recruitable party member, which I think would be awesome, especially if somewhere the line of Templar talents was expanded to include more than just the four abilities currently in the tree



I feel he and Alistair have somewhat similar personalities, though Cullen is obviously much more reserved. Cullen is what Alistair could've been, had things been a bit different. Makes me feel quite sorry for how the Chantry uses up their Templars and just throws them away (don't they go to some estate (aka "funny farm") to retire in senility?) .



And I disagree that he'd be "whiny." He actually strikes me as pretty stoic, especially after the he's "hardened" at the Tower. I feel he'd be quite cynical, but hardly "whiny." Probably a Chantry-aligned male version of Morrigan...at least until he's had some time to see that there is still light in the world.

[KrystylSky]

"And I disagree that he'd be "whiny." He actually strikes me as pretty stoic, especially after the he's "hardened" at the Tower. I feel he'd be quite cynical, but hardly "whiny." Probably a Chantry-aligned male version of Morrigan...at least until he's had some time to see that there is still light in the world."



I agree completely. and I am excited to hear about a project to recruit him. I would pay money to recruit him. :::::::Templar Love::::: Yummy!

LoL!

[coldblossom]

Xetirox wrote...

Cullen would make a ****** poor Warden. First, he's unable to do his job as a Templar, showing an unwillingness and reluctance to cut down a mage undergoing his/her own Harrowing in the case that they become an Abomination. And then, after being exposed to Abominations, he goes off the deep end, and believes that every mage out there is an abomination, culminating in him finally snapping and committing cold-blooded murder. Post-Broken Circle, he's just too mentally unstable to be of use to anyone, and before that, he's too wishy-washy to be able to do what may need to be done.

I honestly have no idea why this guy has such a following.

He's unable to do his job? I guess you missed the whole conversation where he explicitly stated that, had your mage character become an abomination--no matter his personal feelings--he would have killed you. And I guess you missed the part where he was the only Templar to survive at the top of the Tower. Survival of the fittest, right?

He does lose it in the end, depending on your choices (though I've never managed to get either slide no matter how many times I play mage origin) but really...what happens in one ending kinda contradicts the other, so one could argue Crazy!Cullen is just one--not inevitable--outcome of his ordeal.

Oh and I forgot: regarding the Warden part, I think he has all the makings of an excellent Warden. His devotion to duty, his unwavering loyalty, and his extreme strength of will and discipline are probably key, but I think his weakness is that how the Wardens fight the Darkspawn would conflict with his Chantry upbringing. It would be quite interesting to see him recruited and how he wrestles with that.

Modifié par coldblossom, 09 février 2010 - 05:32 .

[coldblossom]

KrystylSky wrote...

I agree completely. and I am excited to hear about a project to recruit him. I would pay money to recruit him. :::::::Templar Love::::: Yummy!
LoL!

There is just something about a man in uniform...All of the Templars are pretty awesome. It makes me want to annul the Tower just so I can have them at the end battle...but then they show up with bows & arrows instead of swords and anti-mage magi--er, "talents. " Well, at least they're still in their uniforms. XD

[KrystylSky]

I want them to import the templar boots and gloves to go with the armor and elm so i can get the set bonus and have my warrior look like a templar lol. I love the purple armor! its sexy!

does anyone have a close up screen print of the templar crest with the sword? I wanted to have my mom make it into a patch for my purse.

[Sabriana]

Cullen is creepy. His remarks after the Harrowing spooked my mage. She (and I) believes that he'd resort to shoving a knife into her throat in a fit of guilt, or to remove the temptation. The more his mind becomes addled with lyrium, and religious zealotry, the worse the temptation to kill her would get.

He might have been the only one who survived, but he is certifiably insane at that point. Rampant paranoia are not enough to describe him. What he does in the end (mages saved, mage boon asked) is insanity as well. He's a murderer, so the willingness to murder seems to be in him.

Like Gaider stated, writing a romance for Cullen would be entirely too creepy.

[ejoslin]

Heh, a romance with Cullen would be him sneaking into your quarters and stealing your underwear and thinking that is intimacy. That is before he kills you one night as you sleep.

[Skadi_the_Evil_Elf]

Sabriana wrote...

Cullen is creepy. His remarks after the Harrowing spooked my mage. She (and I) believes that he'd resort to shoving a knife into her throat in a fit of guilt, or to remove the temptation. The more his mind becomes addled with lyrium, and religious zealotry, the worse the temptation to kill her would get.
He might have been the only one who survived, but he is certifiably insane at that point. Rampant paranoia are not enough to describe him. What he does in the end (mages saved, mage boon asked) is insanity as well. He's a murderer, so the willingness to murder seems to be in him.
Like Gaider stated, writing a romance for Cullen would be entirely too creepy.

Yes. This. Cullen would be an even bigger threat to one's personal safety than Zevran, who, when he first joins, gets alot of suspicion because he's an assassin. But Zevran isn't a mentally unstable lyrium addled religous nut, and so long as you show him a little kindness, he is a very stable, loyal companion. Cullen would be a major threat to any mage, even Wynne. No matter what you did.

And I don't see the comparison between him and Alistair, either. the two are nothing alike. Alistair was far from deeply religous, was quite rebellious against the Chantry as a youngster, and was often in trouble for being ireverent. Me might still believe in a Maker and holds a certain revrence for Andraste, he doesn't hold the Chantry or it's harder dogma in very high regard. Cullen is quite the opposite. He clearly is pretty religous, which is what sets him off in the first place, because he can't reconcile his religous dogma with the facts of life and having human desires. And we see in the end, being religous wins out. And that means, for him, death to all mages.

[Creature 1]

KrystylSky wrote...

I want to see Cullen become a Grey Warden with me and be my love interest.

Only if the romance ends with a "Your journey ends here" splash screen. 

[SurelyForth]

For the life of me, I don't know how he is allowed to become Knight-Commander of the tower if you side with the templars (well, besides him being exactly what the Chantry wants). He *is* crazy after The Broken Circle, whether the mages are killed or not. Even if he wasn't a little off before, the torture he endures makes him completely bonkers. He should have been retired right then, no matter who you side with.

Modifié par SurelyForth, 09 février 2010 - 01:40 .

[Sabriana]

Creature 1 wrote...

KrystylSky wrote...

I want to see Cullen become a Grey Warden with me and be my love interest.

Only if the romance ends with a "Your journey ends here" splash screen. 

Oh it would. No doubt. The way he rants on the tower (granted, he's totally insane by then) tells my mage that he hates her because she tempts him, and that it is her fault that he feels that way. Sheesh.

Like the wife-beater who blames his wife for getting beaten within an inch of her life, or the pedo who blames the child, or the rapist who blames his victim.

[Skadi_the_Evil_Elf]

Creature 1 wrote...

KrystylSky wrote...

I want to see Cullen become a Grey Warden with me and be my love interest.

Only if the romance ends with a "Your journey ends here" splash screen. 

That's the only ending I could see for such a romance.

Even one of the developers who was responsible for writing Cullen stated that if there ever were a romance with Cullen, it would be short, violent, and to get the PC out of his system.

[SusanStoHelit]

Ugh, you're so right Sabriana and others. Cullen as a warden? He doesn't care about the blight. He only wants to kill mages, not darkspawn. They're the true evil loose in the world, as he sees it.

[Nonvita]

Yeah, I really don't understand the Cullen fascination. He's a creepy stalker that would most likely murder you (and every other mage) in an insane fit of anger/jealousy... That doesn't really say "relationship material" to me.

[Knal1991]

He is totally opposed to such relation, it would be way out of character, the female mage is like the forbidden fruit he cannot have and will not take...I believe he also says something in regards to his love for her...that it's a punishements for him, the far as they could've got was If they made a romance option in the origin when having enough persuation but even then he'd hate you for it and probably even kills himself because he has sinned, it was a nice little touch in the origin though and for that I liked him.....

[Randomname1212]

Nonvita wrote...

Yeah, I really don't understand the Cullen fascination. He's a creepy stalker that would most likely murder you (and every other mage) in an insane fit of anger/jealousy... That doesn't really say "relationship material" to me.

And thats what makes him so badass.

[Ambeth]

Sabriana wrote...

Cullen is creepy. His remarks after the Harrowing spooked my mage. She (and I) believes that he'd resort to shoving a knife into her throat in a fit of guilt, or to remove the temptation. The more his mind becomes addled with lyrium, and religious zealotry, the worse the temptation to kill her would get.
He might have been the only one who survived, but he is certifiably insane at that point. Rampant paranoia are not enough to describe him. What he does in the end (mages saved, mage boon asked) is insanity as well. He's a murderer, so the willingness to murder seems to be in him.
Like Gaider stated, writing a romance for Cullen would be entirely too creepy.

Heh, that's about how I see it.  'Best' case would be him suiciding out of guilt, middle case would be murder/suicide (my murder, his suicide) and worse case would be him torturing and killing anyone that looked like me.


OR, I could have been watching a little too much 'Criminal Minds'.

[Randomname1212]

Ambeth wrote...

Sabriana wrote...

Cullen is creepy. His remarks after the Harrowing spooked my mage. She (and I) believes that he'd resort to shoving a knife into her throat in a fit of guilt, or to remove the temptation. The more his mind becomes addled with lyrium, and religious zealotry, the worse the temptation to kill her would get.
He might have been the only one who survived, but he is certifiably insane at that point. Rampant paranoia are not enough to describe him. What he does in the end (mages saved, mage boon asked) is insanity as well. He's a murderer, so the willingness to murder seems to be in him.
Like Gaider stated, writing a romance for Cullen would be entirely too creepy.

Heh, that's about how I see it.  'Best' case would be him suiciding out of guilt, middle case would be murder/suicide (my murder, his suicide) and worse case would be him torturing and killing anyone that looked like me.


OR, I could have been watching a little too much 'Criminal Minds'.

Thats what makes Cullen interesting, he is a torn man who is just crazy but in an awesome way.

[Sialater]

Well, the thing about Cullen is this: even if he weren't nuts, why would the femmage essentially GO BACK to him? She's grown and moved on, possibly to one or the other (or all three) of the more interesting LI's in her companions.



I like the character because he's interesting, but not as an LI. He didn't break, which as Sten points out if you take him, he should be glad of. The blood mages were unable to find his obsession with the femmage. He only thinks they did when she shows up, after all. They were unable to use her against him.

[_- Songlian -]

ejoslin wrote...

Heh, a romance with Cullen would be him sneaking into your quarters and stealing your underwear and thinking that is intimacy.

 This is so true.

My female Elven Mage has a huge crush on him. I wouldn't make him a Grey Warden and I'd probably not romance him fully, if I were given the chance, but he seems attractive to me. In a creepy, best-consumed-with-a-dagger-under-your-pillow kind of way, of course. 

Modifié par - Songlian -, 09 février 2010 - 03:32 .