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[UsagiVindaloo]

Still haven't finished the game yet (and probably won't until after the Olympics!) but I was a bit curious about something.

I'm a bit unclear as to how the New Game + options work in ME2, in terms of not knowing exactly what I can and cannot do, and how much starting a new character will screw me over in terms of taking longer etc. If I start a New Game +, do I get to change anything about my Shepard once I get past the death scene (ie how I changed appearance and class), or is it exactly the same character again? Moreover, is there anything to soften the blow of starting an entirely new character (say, a new gender Shepard) or do I have to do every single thing again from scratch without any bonuses?

The reason I ask is that I only had one Shepard, a male Paragon soldier, to import from ME1. Originally I had intended to also play a female Renegade vanguard, but I never got around to finishing ME1 twice and now I'm lending my copy to someone else. I'm considering just starting a brand new ME2 female character instead (added bonus that I can get with Garrus and Thane without cheating on Kaiden), but then I think about having to do all the missions again (since I'd need the XP), all the scanning, all the purchases, and I get a bit put off. And I keep hearing somewhat different things.... either that New Game + only counts for one character at a time, or that finishing the game gives all new characters a boost. I admit I'm a bit confused.

Please help? 

[UsagiVindaloo]

Hang on, a bit confused... on the one hand, you mention you can import an ME2 character for bonuses but get the same character, but then you mention importing ME1 data and still getting the bonuses (+ ME1 bonuses). Am confuzzled! Are there two different sets of bonuses that I'm missing (ie a separate bonus for just beating ME2 outside of the NG+?)



Also, am suddenly realizing I should have actually avoided Paragon the first game through, because now I can't get my "main" Shepard to max level without doing the entire game EXACTLY the same again... phooey.

[KBGeller]

When you import, you choose to import from ME1 data or NG+ from ME2 data. If you choose ME1 data, it will be a new game based on your ME1 data with no benefits of ME2.



If you load from your ME2 that you loaded from ME1, you get the decisions from your ME1 load, the gear from your ME2 game, and like 50k of each resource and some creds. Atleast thats what I got this morning when I NG+ed.

[UsagiVindaloo]

Ah, I see. The only thing is, I heard something about bonuses to experience gain? Is that for a NG+ loaded from a legacy ME2 character?

[PingoBlack]

Bonus to XP gain is granted once you complete the game the first time, for all subsequent characters..

[Justin2k]

The experience game is if you completed ME2. Regardless of whether it was a ME1 character or not.



New game + with a ME2 character lets you start at the same level (and get the lvl 30 achievement) faster experience and keep a lot of things.

[Jytra]

If you beat ME2, then start a new game that reimports your ME1 savegame, you get:



-- 300k Credits (provided you were rich in ME1)

-- 60k of each resource (provided you completed the resources quest in ME1)

-- Your choice of a Loyalty ability

-- Your Paragon/Renegade bonus from ME1

-- Start at Level 5 (if you were level 60 in ME1)

-- Ability to pick your class (A straightforward ME2 import puts you back with your original ME2 class)





So basically, once you beat the game, I'd suggest reimporting your ME1 character again. You get all the ME1 bonuses plus the ME2 completion bonuses.

[BundokJon]

I didn't thoroughly research this, but I gathered that when you start over with the same character, you don't get to change anything, but you do have these bonuses:

1) You have all heavy weapons that you unlocked the first time
2) You get bonus xp
3) You get a large amount of bonus credits
4) You get a large amount of starting resources
5) All loyalty powers are unlocked
6) You don't get to pick a new weapon at the Collector Ship

I can't verify, since I haven't played this mode, I didn't want to impact this playthrough if I never got back to it before ME3.

What I did do was import a different Mass Effect 1 character after having finished. I got this:

1) Bonus xp (hit level 30 without doing any anomaly quests or Normandy Crash yet)
2) Something well over 100,000 credits (200,000?)
3) All loyalty powers unlocked
4) The ability to pick a new weapon or weapon skill on the Collector Ship
5) 50,000 of each resource for having a completed Mass Effect 2 game, plus 2,500 of each resource from having a level 44 character imported from ME1.
6) You can customize the character's appearance and class

I couldn't find this information anywhere, so I went through and imported an ME1 character just to see if the benefits were more after a separate ME2 completion. The benefits are signficant, and I placed more vaue on the ability to try another class. 

[UsagiVindaloo]

Thanks so much to everyone for replying! I think I get it now... it was a bit confusing with all the random imports etc! So just to make sure I get this straight:

- If I import my finished ME2 male Shepard again, I get super mega hyper bonuses, get to keep weapons, etc etc, but I am still stuck with my appearance and my class.
- If I reimport my ME1 male Shepard, I get mega bonuses (less than the finished ME2, but still sizable) plus get to change my appearance and class.
- if I start a brand new female Shepard, however, the only bonus I get is the bonus to XP. (Or are the loyalty abilities unlocked too?)

Is this right?

Modifié par UsagiVindaloo, 09 février 2010 - 07:05 .

[Burningwolf]

The long service award is for comppletion of 2 me 2 playthroughs,or one playthrough with an imported character.

Me2 Import Keeps armor components and weapons obtained.Alignment/upgrades set to zero.

ME2 Import with ME2 long service also get 200k credits and 50k resources.

ME1 import (level 60,rich)Gets 150k credits,10 k elements+alignment

ME1 import (level 60,rich)with ME2 long service Gets 350k credits and 60 k elements+alignment

Me 1 import can change class/face

Me 2 import can change face.

Hopefully that helps

[Spazticus]

UsagiVindaloo wrote...

Thanks so much to everyone for replying! I think I get it now... it was a bit confusing with all the random imports etc! So just to make sure I get this straight:

- If I import my finished ME2 male Shepard again, I get super mega hyper bonuses, get to keep weapons, etc etc, but I am still stuck with my appearance and my class.
- If I reimport my ME1 male Shepard, I get mega bonuses (less than the finished ME2, but still sizable) plus get to change my appearance and class.
- if I start a brand new female Shepard, however, the only bonus I get is the bonus to XP. (Or are the loyalty abilities unlocked too?)

Is this right?

1. Yes, that's correct.

2. It's correct. And you can definitely change appearance and class.

3. If I'm not mistaken, loyalty abilities, once unlocked, can be learned by any current and future characters. The main thing you miss out on are your story decisions from ME1. The Rachni Queen, Wrex, and the Council are all dead by default, unless you import. Because you're using a new character, these choices will be locked for ME3, as well.

Modifié par Spazticus, 09 février 2010 - 07:17 .

[addiction21]

BW will mail you some waffles...

[UsagiVindaloo]

Does anyone know what exactly you get from an ME1 import if you are not level 60 and rich? I believe I got the rich achievement (the one that unlocks certain Spectre weapons like the Assault Rifle of I Press Button And People DIe), but I was only level 37 at the end of ME1.

[UsagiVindaloo]

Spazticus wrote...

UsagiVindaloo wrote...

Thanks so much to everyone for replying! I think I get it now... it was a bit confusing with all the random imports etc! So just to make sure I get this straight:

- If I import my finished ME2 male Shepard again, I get super mega hyper bonuses, get to keep weapons, etc etc, but I am still stuck with my appearance and my class.
- If I reimport my ME1 male Shepard, I get mega bonuses (less than the finished ME2, but still sizable) plus get to change my appearance and class.
- if I start a brand new female Shepard, however, the only bonus I get is the bonus to XP. (Or are the loyalty abilities unlocked too?)

Is this right?

1. Yes, that's correct.

2. It's correct. And you can definitely change appearance and class.

3. If I'm not mistaken, loyalty abilities, once unlocked, can be learned by any current and future characters. The main thing you miss out on are your story decisions from ME1. The Rachni Queen, Wrex, and the Council are all dead by default, unless you import. Because you're using a new character, these choices will be locked for ME3, as well.

Cool on the first two. Although part of me is all bummed that, if I want a maxed out Paragon Shepard ready for ME3, I have to play through the game the exact same way I just did, same choices and everything. Dangit, I wish I'd thought of that earlier and just messed around this playthrough before "getting serious". 

For choice 3, that's not *too* bad as I was intending to play a pure female Renegade Shepard who would have made all those decisions anyway. I think part of my problem is that ME2 is so interesting that part of me doesn't want to have to go back and play the first game again just to get the character I want; I want to play ME2 now, dangit! It doesn't help that there's just SO much to do in both games... I've been joking to my friends that I never need to get another video game again because these two just keep going... and going... and going...

[Spazticus]

You also obviously miss out on some of the little decisions and their repercussions by not importing. The numerous emails and cameos may not add a lot of exp or paragon/renegade points, but it's reasonable to assume some of those side characters will still be around when ME3 comes out. Not much consolation, but you have plenty of time between now and then for at least one or two "perfect" playthroughs!

[achegal]

Another question. Is there a way to change the name of an imported ME 1 Character. Couldn´t change it so far, maybe i´m just blind though -.-

[Gabriel vas Quib-Quib]

If I beat the game and play it again with the same profile, and this second time make different choices throughout the game, what will happen? Will I be able to choose wich path I'll take? The choices made in the first playtrhough are the ones that will count on ME3?

I know the game is far from being released, but does anyone know something by doing this on ME1 and importing the profile to ME2?

PS: Sorry for any error or weird choice of words. I'll be glad to explain myself, if necessary.

Modifié par Gabriel vas Quib-Quib, 09 février 2010 - 07:46 .

[TeaWhiteNonePlease]

No, you're name stays the same as in ME1

[keginkc]

I've come to the conclusion that, after playing through nearly the entire game on a ME2 NG+ sentinel, that there is no real benefit to playing through the game NG+. You don't get the paragon/renegade bonuses that ME1 imports receive, you don't get the 100K credit bonus of a rich character, you don't get the 10K resource bonus of a character that finished the resource quest, the only thing that you do get to keep are the heavy weapons you research (which isn't really a big deal in my mind) and the various armor pieces that you buy. And beyond that, particularly if you play on insanity (which I did), you have a much harder time of it since you're fighting high level enemies without the benefit of any upgrades.



Once I finish this, I don't anticipate that I'll do another NG+ character, unless we're given a reason to do so (i.e. a significantly raised level cap, etc), and will instead just import from the variety of ME1 saves that I have.

[NICKjnp]

Loading a game from ME1 gives you 10,000 in all resources, 100,000 credits and your paragon/renegade score (as well as level based on level finished in ME1). New Game + gives you 200,000 credits, 50,000 across resources, whatever level you were when you completed ME2, but not paragon/renegade score.

[keginkc]

NICKjnp wrote...

Loading a game from ME1 gives you 10,000 in all resources, 100,000 credits and your paragon/renegade score (as well as level based on level finished in ME1). New Game + gives you 200,000 credits, 50,000 across resources, whatever level you were when you completed ME2, but not paragon/renegade score.

Once you unlock the achievement, those bonuses stack if you load an ME1 character.  In other words, NG+ gives you that 200K credits, 50K resources, but an ME1 import gives you (if you were rich and completed the resources) a total of 300K credits and 60K resources, plus the aforementioned paragon/renegade score.

There's no real benefit to the ME2 import, other than the heavy weapons, armor pieces and, something I forgot to mention previously, the weapon you select on the collector ship (which, if you're a soldier or infiltrator doesn't even carryover into the new game, although as any other class you'd start with that bonus weapon skill).

Modifié par keginkc, 09 février 2010 - 09:01 .