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keginkc wrote...

NICKjnp wrote...

Loading a game from ME1 gives you 10,000 in all resources, 100,000 credits and your paragon/renegade score (as well as level based on level finished in ME1). New Game + gives you 200,000 credits, 50,000 across resources, whatever level you were when you completed ME2, but not paragon/renegade score.


Once you unlock the achievement, those bonuses stack if you load an ME1 character.  In other words, NG+ gives you that 200K credits, 50K resources, but an ME1 import gives you (if you were rich and completed the resources) a total of 300K credits and 60K resources, plus the aforementioned paragon/renegade score.

There's no real benefit to the ME2 import, other than the heavy weapons, armor pieces and, something I forgot to mention previously, the weapon you select on the collector ship (which, if you're a soldier or infiltrator doesn't even carryover into the new game, although as any other class you'd start with that bonus weapon skill).


Was double checking back on this thread to refresh my memory of a few things, and just realized something is unclear (or maybe it is clear and I'm just overthinking it).

People mentioned "unlocking the achievement" and those bonuses stacking to a re-import of an ME1 character after completing the game once. Does this count ONLY for reimports of the Shepard you beat the game with, or does it mean for any Shepard?

To clarify:

Let's say I imported a Male Shepard named Hikaru Shepard who, for the sake of the argument, was level 60 and rich. That would mean he'd start with 10,000 resources, 100,000 credits, a few levels and some paragon.
Let's say I finish ME2 at level 27 and get the Long Service Medal Achievement as well as NG+.
If I import the ME2 version of Hikaru Shepard again (ie NG+), I remain at level 27, get 200,000 credits, 50,000 resources, my armor and heavy weapons, but no morality.
If I reimport the ME1 version of Hikaru Shepard again (ie not NG+), I start with 300,000 credits, 60,000 resources, and a bit of morality and levels.

Is that right?

Now, my question is...

Say I now import a FEMALE Shepard from ME1 called Hotaru Shepard, who is not rich, or max level, and hasn't found all the minerals.
Does Hotaru Shepard start ME2 with anything? Would she get 300,000 credits etc because I have the achievement that says, "Hey, you beat ME2, have bonuses for all your characters"? Or is that only when you reimport someone like Hikaru who already beat the game?

This is all somewhat relevant as I'm trying to decide whether it's worth replaying all of ME1 to get an importable female Shepard, and whether I would have to get all the wealth/minerals/levels I could to make it worth it.

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Was double checking back on this thread to refresh my memory of a few
things, and just realized something is unclear (or maybe it is clear
and I'm just overthinking it).

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Anyway, the ME2 Long Service bonus applies to any and all characters you import or start. It's much better to keep importing a rich Level 60 character from ME1 after you've completed ME2 once. You get the maximum amount of bonuses this way.

If you start an ME2 New Game or reimport a finished ME2 character, you only get the Long Service bonus, and not the import bonus.

Modifié par Ecael, 05 mars 2010 - 08:38 .


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Ecael wrote...

Was double checking back on this thread to refresh my memory of a few
things, and just realized something is unclear (or maybe it is clear
and I'm just overthinking it).

Posted Image

Anyway, the ME2 Long Service bonus applies to any and all characters you import or start. It's much better to keep importing a rich Level 60 character from ME1 after you've completed ME2 once. You get the maximum amount of bonuses this way.

If you start an ME2 New Game or reimport a finished ME2 character, you only get the Long Service bonus, and not the import bonus.


LOL, sorry about that... in other forums they tend to get very annoyed if you post a similar/identical thread to something you've posted before, even if it is almost a month ago. I thought I'd go with caution vs. "Didn't we just SEE this question?"

So just to clarify... what is, *exactly*, the Long Service bonus? I'm beginning to realize that I have gotten my lines crossed re: achievements and what gives what... according to the wiki, Long Service only granted +25% experience, and I had assumed that the +resources/money/etc was based on something else.

If Long Service does give all the resources/money/etc, then, I guess that means it's not the end of the world if I don't max out my new ME1 Shepard? She'd lose 100k credits and 10k resources, but I could probably live with that.

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UsagiVindaloo wrote...

LOL, sorry about that... in other forums they tend to get very annoyed if you post a similar/identical thread to something you've posted before, even if it is almost a month ago. I thought I'd go with caution vs. "Didn't we just SEE this question?"

So just to clarify... what is, *exactly*, the Long Service bonus? I'm beginning to realize that I have gotten my lines crossed re: achievements and what gives what... according to the wiki, Long Service only granted +25% experience, and I had assumed that the +resources/money/etc was based on something else.

If Long Service does give all the resources/money/etc, then, I guess that means it's not the end of the world if I don't max out my new ME1 Shepard? She'd lose 100k credits and 10k resources, but I could probably live with that.

Long Service bonus is extra credits, extra resources and a +25% XP gain on top of the ME1 import bonus (if you choose to import).

ME1 import gives you the most resources, most credits and, most of all, the Paragon/Renegade bonus that you don't get with an ME2 character. The latter is just as important as the other two.

New Game/New Game+ are virtually useless if you have a completed save of Mass Effect 1, really.

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Ecael wrote...

Was double checking back on this thread to refresh my memory of a few
things, and just realized something is unclear (or maybe it is clear
and I'm just overthinking it).

Posted Image

Anyway, the ME2 Long Service bonus applies to any and all characters you import or start. It's much better to keep importing a rich Level 60 character from ME1 after you've completed ME2 once. You get the maximum amount of bonuses this way.

If you start an ME2 New Game or reimport a finished ME2 character, you only get the Long Service bonus, and not the import bonus.


LOL that was funny. :P

Modifié par justinnstuff, 05 mars 2010 - 09:08 .


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Ecael wrote...

UsagiVindaloo wrote...

LOL, sorry about that... in other forums they tend to get very annoyed if you post a similar/identical thread to something you've posted before, even if it is almost a month ago. I thought I'd go with caution vs. "Didn't we just SEE this question?"

So just to clarify... what is, *exactly*, the Long Service bonus? I'm beginning to realize that I have gotten my lines crossed re: achievements and what gives what... according to the wiki, Long Service only granted +25% experience, and I had assumed that the +resources/money/etc was based on something else.

If Long Service does give all the resources/money/etc, then, I guess that means it's not the end of the world if I don't max out my new ME1 Shepard? She'd lose 100k credits and 10k resources, but I could probably live with that.

Long Service bonus is extra credits, extra resources and a +25% XP gain on top of the ME1 import bonus (if you choose to import).

ME1 import gives you the most resources, most credits and, most of all, the Paragon/Renegade bonus that you don't get with an ME2 character. The latter is just as important as the other two.

New Game/New Game+ are virtually useless if you have a completed save of Mass Effect 1, really.


Ahhh, thanks for the clarification. The Mass Effect Wiki only stated the +25% XP gain, so I thought that any new characters (beyond Hikaru, my main guy) would be stuck with absolutely nothing beyond faster levelling.

I would agree with your assessment of NG/NG+ being useless with a completed save if the import allowed you to change gender as well. >.> Unfortunately, it doesn't, and as of yet I have no femShep saves in ME1 (I only finished the game once). Part of what I've been trying to determine is whether I should:

A) Start a new game in ME2 with a fem Shep (the decisions about the Council and Wrex are fine, I was going to try those anyway). Would be stuck starting from scratch (though the Long Service medal would help) and would miss Conrad etc.
B) Start a new game in ME1 with a fem Shep but race through the game as fast as possible so I can get back to ME2 and sweet Thane loving ASAP. Would probably mean low levels, not many credits and not all the minerals.
C) Start a new game in ME1 with a fem Shep and try to get as much money, resources and XP as I can. Would leave me with an excellent base for multiple ME2 playthroughs, but means I have to spend a long time on ME1 again.

EDIT: and before someone asks, Mass Effect Saves is not an option... am on an XBox. :(

Modifié par UsagiVindaloo, 05 mars 2010 - 09:15 .


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UsagiVindaloo wrote...
I would agree with your assessment of NG/NG+ being useless with a completed save if the import allowed you to change gender as well. >.> Unfortunately, it doesn't, and as of yet I have no femShep saves in ME1 (I only finished the game once). Part of what I've been trying to determine is whether I should:

A) Start a new game in ME2 with a fem Shep (the decisions about the Council and Wrex are fine, I was going to try those anyway). Would be stuck starting from scratch (though the Long Service medal would help) and would miss Conrad etc.
B) Start a new game in ME1 with a fem Shep but race through the game as fast as possible so I can get back to ME2 and sweet Thane loving ASAP. Would probably mean low levels, not many credits and not all the minerals.
C) Start a new game in ME1 with a fem Shep and try to get as much money, resources and XP as I can. Would leave me with an excellent base for multiple ME2 playthroughs, but means I have to spend a long time on ME1 again.

EDIT: and before someone asks, Mass Effect Saves is not an option... am on an XBox. :(

That really depends on how much free time you have (and how much time you're willing to spend). I can't stand to bring myself to play New Game/New Game+ because it's more planet scanning and less credits with no Renegade points.

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Modifié par deaconrayne, 22 juillet 2012 - 07:30 .