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[apk117]

edermaldito wrote...

Insanity calls for widow + vindicator.

Rev is nice sure, but the widow is the ultimate problem solver, and you can't get both weapons.

Have you ever actually beaten Insanity?

[Urazz]

Dodgeman wrote...

I say go for the widow or claymore. I havent started a new game+ yet, but it seems The Revenant is only useful once you get the accuracy upgrade which is fairly late into the game and if you are planning to start a ng+ you start without upgrades which will yet again gimp the revenant until you get the accuracy upgrade. The claymore and widow on the other hand are useful even in the beginning without upgrades.

The accuracy upgrade is fairly easy to get actually if you save your money for buying the assault rifle damage upgrades first and go to the right missions.  I had the assault rifle upgrade even before I picked up the revenant on my first playthrough with my soldier.

Even without the upgrades, the Revenant is fairly decent and is more short range to medium short range without upgrades.

The viper sniper rifle is better suited for the soldier in adrenaline mode with that larger clip.  I really don't like the widow on my soldier with that one round clip.

On insanity, Vindicator has too little ammo to be that effective really and Husks are a real pain in the butt on Insanity,  Revenant really helps out on handling the husks as a soldier in Insanity.

Modifié par Urazz, 13 février 2010 - 12:56 .

[aeetos21]

Rev with AP, get the accuracy upgrade (hell get all the upgrades) and enemies like praetorians and other armor bearers get mowed down.

[Ooga600]

Revenant. with the accuracy upgrades its a beast.

[Devos]

Revenant. The Widow is good but the Revenant is much more versatile.

[mundus66]

Widow + Vindicator obviously. Best 2 weapons in the game.

[Proud Larry]

Revanant. Soldier can make do with just the Mantis for sniping, no need for the Widow's ridiculous power.

[Warskullx]

Do you really need the widow? It is basically the mantis with 100 more damage and slightly more ammo in reserve. That 100 may seem like a big deal. However, you do 2.4x damage under heightened adrenaline surge resulting 624 damage a shot from the mantis (more with upgrades.) You are already going to blow heads off with adrenaline surge, a decent chunk of that extra damage is going to be overkill in many situations, even on insanity.

[JaegerBane]

mundus66 wrote...

Widow + Vindicator obviously. Best 2 weapons in the game.

Proud Larry wrote...

Revanant. Soldier can make do with just the Mantis for sniping, no need for the Widow's ridiculous power.

These two posts pretty much sum up the two different types of soldiers available to play in this game. Ultimately the choice is down to what type you prefer to play - Rambo or Chavez.

Generally I'd say the more balanced choice is to go for the Rev, as you say, the Mantis is a fine sniper rifle. The problem is that the Widow's power is actually so high it even takes over from some of the heavy weapon duties, and it makes several boss fights trivial (particularly the last one).

I probably would go Widow + Vindicator if I ever did a soldier playthrough again. But it's up to whether you want balance or precision.

[PnXMarcin1PL]

apk117 wrote...

edermaldito wrote...

Insanity calls for widow + vindicator.

Rev is nice sure, but the widow is the ultimate problem solver, and you can't get both weapons.

Have you ever actually beaten Insanity?

The same question goes to you.
About me, I've finished the game on Insanity 3 times now, once with Revnant and two times with Widow.
I can handle myself easily with Avenger Assault Rifle and Widow on my back. Actually I find Widow very effective against Harbinger (you spare more heavy wep. ammo)

[PnXMarcin1PL]

Dodgeman wrote...
On insanity, Vindicator has too little ammo to be that effective really and Husks are a real pain in the butt on Insanity,  Revenant really helps out on handling the husks as a soldier in Insanity.

Have you tried Assault Shotgun + Inferno and aim in their stomach and legs ? It tears them apart

[Dark_Caduceus]

I go for the high-rate of fire weapons over precision, I can say the Revenant+Viper made the suicide mission on hardcore a non-issue, I think I might have died once.

[minormiracle]

The Revenant with inferno ammo is great on insanity. Since your clip size is so large it's quite easy to blast through the shields or armor of most enemies and stun lock them with the burning animation. Adrenaline rush also eliminates all recoil, letting you do hilarious things like blast out mech legs or headshot enemies with the Revenant at medium range. The Widow does around 40% more damage per shot than the Mantis (Damage: 368 vs 263), but with adrenaline rush and the headshot upgrade it's possible on insanity to take out fully shielded/armored enemy grunts like blue suns troopers, loki mechs, or collector drones with a headshot using the Mantis. I don't know if adrenaline rush also increases your attack damage, or if it's just because aiming becomes so much easier, but I've made it through insanity using the Mantis as a Widow-lite along with the Revenant for everything else.

[BeyondFX]

It's a hard choice. Both have their merits and draw backs. I would try to base it off your play style. Do you use the AR most of the time, or do you like to snipe a lot?



I've done a run with the revenant and it was pretty nice. It could easily tear through most enemies. I'm on another playthrough using the widow now and the power is insane. Adrenaline rush + a head shot destroys most enemies in one shot. It also kills krogan and ranked enemies (such as commanders, vanguards, etc) in 2, and once harbinger's barrier is down he also dies in one shot. Overall though Im still not sure which I like better; they're both great weapons.

[minormiracle]

BeyondFX wrote...
 and once harbinger's barrier is down he also dies in one shot.

You can actually do this with the Mantis as well.

[Solmanian]

I didn't like the revenant at begining. it needs practice to bring its full potential. most ppl simply squize trigger, rambo style, and treat it as short range weapon only. the fact is the best technic for a revenant is quick tapping, like the vindicator, it bring a massive increase in r.o.f&accuraccy, making effecive at long range too, and u can make headshots easily (next to impossible with full auto). If master this, the revenant is the weapon of choice for the soldier. nothing clears a battlefield quicker (other than the cain...)

[implodinggoat]

I picked the Revenant and I regret the hell out of it. The Vindicator is just too badass and I'm a damned surgeon with it so I hardly ever use the Revenant which is way to innacurate for my tastes. Don't get me wrong the Revenant is fun to use and it can lay down the damage in full auto mode really well; but if you like the Vindicator as much as I do you'll really regret passing up the UBER powerful Widow which does an absolutely obscene amount of damage in one shot.

[uv23]

IMO, the Widow is an overall better weapon but the Revenant was more fun to use.

[KalReegar]

The Revenant+AP rounds+Adrenaline Burst in close quarters= unstoppable. Easily my fave weapon.

[JRCHOharry]

I prefer to use the Widow, i use snipers more because of this weapon. I'm playing on insanity now so i usually send my two goons to go in and take on the bad guys while i stay back and snipe for support... I'm ashamed to say i play as a soldier

[Schneidend]

matt654321 wrote...

If you're playing hardcore or insanity, the Soldier is the only class that can get both the Widow and the Geth Pulse Rifle. That's a pretty nice combination.

I was going to say Revenant hands-down, but this is a pretty cool idea. The Geth Pulse Rifle is very nice, indeed. I used it for a mission or two before I got the Revenant. It's basically a mini-Revenant with the monstrous fire rate, just that the clip is smaller and the damage isn't as slaughtertastic.