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[Jebel Krong]

i, for one, want to keep miranda's sexy outfits, thankyou. as for jack - meh i don't care as i don't use her/talk to her so she doesn't bother me...

[Taura-Tierno]

I like the idea of each squad member having a unique outfit - but I would prefer it if they added some more combat-oriented clothing for the characters that don't already have one. I mean, Jack is just a joke ... she should be dead the moment her shields drop. Give her something to wear, please.



And it should also be the other way around - why is Garrus the only one walking around the ship with full armor all of the time?

[Stompi]

New outfits would be nice, but only if they are free or included in a larger DLC. I wouldn't start a new game just because of some additional outfits.

[Selvec_Darkon]

Said it before. But Bioware made big boo boo's in ME with Space. For example. Anyone caught outside in space without one of those suits on would freeze to death from exposure. No warmth in space.

[T1l]

I think it's hilarious that the characters can be in space, yet only wear breathers.



The vacuum would rip your insides outside if you did that - brains sucked out your eyes and ears.

[vhatever]

LOL. The "vacuum" would do no such thing. As long as you had something to keep you warm you could survive in space for quite awhile if you had a source of oxygen and some sort of mouth/face guard.. You watch too much TV.

Modifié par vhatever, 10 février 2010 - 02:55 .

[Phaedra Sanguine]

Obviously no one played the mission where you dock with a ship that has its windows broken out and everything.

edit: or how about the beginning of the game where Joker is wearing a face mask and is fully exposed to space. 

Modifié par Paxcorpus, 10 février 2010 - 02:56 .

[Selvec_Darkon]

"Vacumn" is caused by air escaped into nothing.



While your eyes wouldn't explode or anything, you couldn't survive in space without being fully covered, due to the human body needing air. Without oxygen, the human body itself would simply shut down. Skin requires air.



What I found amusing is that on planets with the air containing amonia and such, Miranda's walking around with her face completely uncovered, and jacks entire chest area and arms remains uncovered.



Hope they have vaccines for cancer and such.

[T1l]

Wouldn't oxygen be sucked out of your ears? Forgive my ignorance, lol, rofl, lol, omg, lol, rofl, but what the hell happens to compressed air in space? Your sinus cavity would be full of compressed air, yet your ears and eyes are exposed.



I'm no geologist, and I'm not willing to test it myself, but I can't see how having your sinuses filled with compressed air and then launching in to a vacuum is going to be uneventful.

[vhatever]

Lots of bad things would happen if you tried to hold your breath in a vacuum with an exposed face, but as long as you can continue to breath somehow, it would mostly balance out.. It would be much harder to breath. Need to take very deep breaths and things like that. I don't see. If you have some air in your ears it will leave. So what. You don't need air in your ears to survive.



If you have oxygen + warmth, and way to protect your gas exchange in your lungs, you could stay out in space for quite awhile. I don't even remember any missions where my team was truly in space anyway.

[T1l]

Maybe I'm just not getting it, then. There's something I must be missing. Ears, eyes, nose and mouth are all connected. The way I picture it is you get a plastic bottle, fill it with air (your sinus), put two pin-pricks in either side of it (your ears) and then you rapidly raise its altitude - air will expand and force its way out the two pin-pricks, right? So, what I picture is, you have a head full of pressurised air - you jump in to a vacuum (or somewhere with less pressurisation than the air you're breathing) and bam; blown ear drums and ruptured eyes. All of the oxygen you have in your lungs/sinus cavity will try and escape, wouldn't it?

Anyway; this isn't my field of expertise. Just trying to wrap my brain around how instant depressurisation of air in the body isn't a bad thing.

[tetracycloide]

vhatever wrote...

If you have some air in your ears it will leave. So what. You don't need air in your ears to survive.

If you have oxygen + warmth, and way to protect your gas exchange in your lungs, you could stay out in space for quite awhile. I don't even remember any missions where my team was truly in space anyway.

Depends on rate of decompression.  Too fast. Eardrums rupture.  Unpleasant.

Warmth not immediately necessary.  Heat loss in true vacuum, minimal.  No surrounding mater.  No conduction.  No convection.  Radiated losses not pressing.

Body needs oxygen.  Pressure also.  Low pressure causes ebullism.  Suits provide pressure.  Oxygen.  Reduce radiation loss. Needs covered.

[Vengeful Nature]

Nothing explodes when your in space! It's pure hollywood science! Look at this:



http://www.geoffreyl...com/vacuum.html

[Axeface]

I vote for less clothes, not more!

Samara needs to get her legs out, jack needs hotpants and newrock boots (only), miranda needs more leather, and tali needs less metal.

[beermilk]

I have very high clothing requirements. Sexy too. I want every single clothing my Shepard has to wear to show abs/cameltoe/breasts/asscheeks. If 3 of my teammates can **** around in their outfits, my Shepard shouldnt be left out.

[Warlock Angel22]

You could easily explain this by saying that all the biotics use a barrier around their bodies that serves the same as sealed suit. All they would need is the breather mask to provide oxygen. Simple enough. What's the problem?

[T1l]

Vengeful Nature wrote...

Nothing explodes when your in space! It's pure hollywood science! Look at this:

http://www.geoffreyl...com/vacuum.html

Legend; thank you for posting that. It's basically what I was trying to find to educate myself on the subject.

"After an initial rush of gas from the lungs during decompression, gas and water vapor will continue to flow outward through the airways. This continual evaporation of water will cool the mouth and nose to near-freezing temperatures; the remainder of the body will also become cooled, but more slowly."

"Some degree of consciousness will probably be retained for 9 to 11 seconds.... It is very unlikely that a human suddenly exposed to a vacuum would have more than 5 to 10 seconds to help himself."

Sounds bad. Also the whole section on explosive decompression is really interesting.

TL:DR - people need full body suits in space, basically.

Modifié par T1l, 10 février 2010 - 04:35 .

[Vengeful Nature]

Warlock Angel22 wrote...

You could easily explain this by saying that all the biotics use a barrier around their bodies that serves the same as sealed suit. All they would need is the breather mask to provide oxygen. Simple enough. What's the problem?

Kinetic barriers are very specifically stated to not protect against extremes of atmosphere or vacuum. They repel solid moving objects. Your idea might hold some weight with a little retcon from Bioware, but Mordin isn't a biotic and he also only wears a mask, so it can't be just an unexplained property of mass effect fields.

T1l wrote...

Vengeful Nature wrote...

Nothing explodes when your in space! It's pure hollywood science! Look at this:

http://www.geoffreyl...com/vacuum.html

Legend; thank you for posting that. It's basically what I was trying to find to educate myself on the subject.

"After
an initial rush of gas from the lungs during decompression, gas and
water vapor will continue to flow outward through the airways. This
continual evaporation of water will cool the mouth and nose to
near-freezing temperatures; the remainder of the body will also become
cooled, but more slowly."

"Some degree of consciousness will
probably be retained for 9 to 11 seconds.... It is very unlikely that a
human suddenly exposed to a vacuum would have more than 5 to 10 seconds
to help himself."

Sounds bad. Also the whole section on explosive decompression is really interesting.

TL:DR - people need full body suits in space, basically.

I dunno, the idea of slipping into unconsiousness after 10 second and then dying whilst out of it sounds a lot more appealing to me than dying slowly and painfully in a hospital somewhere.

*Ahem*, let's not get to morbid about how we would like to die. 

Modifié par Vengeful Nature, 10 février 2010 - 04:41 .

[Demigod]

What annoyed me most was the loyalty mission for Tali. I brought Miranda with me onto the supposedly sterile environment of a garden ship. No sealed suit means there is now human bacteria and viri in the environment with plenty of food sources for the bacteria at least to flourish on. She would be responsible for millions of very ill or very dead quarians

[mintcar]

I chose my team mates to make up for this. Even when fighting inside a spaceship I would take Garrus, Grunt or someone with a full spacesuit "just to be safe" in case of a hullbreach or something. I'm not all worked up about it, I just chose to do it that way because it made sense to me.



It's mildly irritating mainly because the first game was very picky about forcing everyone to wear a helmet in dangerous environments. I remember being very happy about that detail.

[Demigod]

I would on a second play through but turning up for the first time expecting some level of story consistancy as well as plain common sense with regard to the fleet and vacuum was apparently too much.



It doesn't ruin the game for me or anything like that but the qc department needs reprimanding anyone else notice the crates and vehicles on the tali pick up world? Yes that is English on them.

[Illogical343]

I figure if Han and Leia could go around with just breath masks, the ME2 crew can too.

[thatguy212]

they can't change what miranda wears that much because its part of the plot, a couple of people ask if cerberus lets all they employees dress like ****s or something along that line, if you gave her something like a full suit of armor that line wouldn't make sense anymore

[Moorpheusl9]

The space-suits or lack of didn't bother me as such as that apparently Jack and Miranda are protected from rockets, snipers etc by wearing skin-tight suits (or in Jack's case, 2 belts).



Shepard: 'We've got enemy rocket troops! Take cover!'

Jack: 'It's alright, my belts will protect me! *jumps out of cover and deflects all the rockets away!*

[Demigod]

thatguy212 wrote...

they can't change what miranda wears that much because its part of the plot, a couple of people ask if cerberus lets all they employees dress like ****s or something along that line, if you gave her something like a full suit of armor that line wouldn't make sense anymore

No but its easy enough to give her a helmet and neck unit that seals the suit, samara is easy she just needs to close her damn suit. We can hope the kinetic barriers equalise the pressure over the body though...

Modifié par Demigod, 10 février 2010 - 05:34 .