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Jimmy Fury wrote...
I believe the reason Casey gave was something along the lines of resources being limited and needing to conserve disc space so they had to cut back on some things. This included the s/s relationships with Kaidan and Ashley because they were perceived to be the least popular.
Which I'm inclined to believe if only because i'm a naive optimist and don't want to beleive BioWare would lie to the fans at every turn. We know from the modded game that those two romances would have required a second set of steamy-scene animations.

Actually the FemShep/Ashley "sex scene" is already perfect: www.youtube.com/watch

So it is a mystery why it was not included in ME1.

Modifié par Arik7, 11 février 2010 - 12:45 .


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Hey guys, the last time I posted in a thread like this, my SocialNetwork account was suspended for 3 days... just letting you know how we poor trolls have to suffer because of you.

Anyways, I'm droping the fight. Have your gay romance in Mass Effect 3. Just make it that male characters are not hitting on players... that would be disturbing for some people.

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November Cousland wrote...

Kangasniemi wrote...

Do we really need a new Zevran in this game who talks only about how he
likes hard leather boots and leather armor and acts pretty much like
the most stereotypical (forgive my politically incorrect term here)
"queer"?



I just don't get this at all. Zevran oozes masculinity.


lol no

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I actually feel like, were Bioware to alter an existing character to be gay/bi, Garrus would be an excellent choice. His Femshep romance makes it clear that he's in the romance because of who you are as a person, building a relationship off friendship, trust and respect. Those qualities can easily be transferred to a M/M relationship, especially taking into account the gender neutral interactions Garrus has with Shepard.

I personally would prefer they leave the current characters as they are, but this is just a thought I posted in the previous thread as a possibility.

Modifié par Erode_The_Soul, 11 février 2010 - 01:43 .


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I just hope the Dev team learns from this and doesn't give us the ''no time to do it'' excuse again


Was this used as an excuse from them? I thought that was just some people on here trying to think of what it could have been...

Because in reality, they DID have time to create the content, at least for ME1, where all the scenees and dialogue were fleshed out (pretty much 100%).

Yeah it was used as an excuse to not have m/m romance in ME1.  It's posted by one of the devs in the old forum.  Like what you just said, it's why we are not going to buy it if the same excuse is used again.

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Ninja Mage, well done in attacking me for posting my opinion. You Sir, are a complete and utter clown.
It's not my problem that you can't take the existing characters for who they are, all I have to do is start up my game but you have to go hunting for cut content and watching it on Youtube...which is sad as **** btw.

Before you started just rejecting anyone's opinion that differs from your own out of hand, me and Jimmy Fury and some others were actually having a debate. You know, arguments BOTH for AND against. Not just "OMG I want this and anyone who disagrees is a ****!"
Ninja, you're easily (behind only Ryuuchi) the biggest clown shoes that this thread has produced. As such you can attack me all you like, I'm done responding to you specifically. Tool.

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hycer wrote...

biddypocket wrote...

Ninja Mage wrote...


I just hope the Dev team learns from this and doesn't give us the ''no time to do it'' excuse again


Was this used as an excuse from them? I thought that was just some people on here trying to think of what it could have been...

Because in reality, they DID have time to create the content, at least for ME1, where all the scenees and dialogue were fleshed out (pretty much 100%).

Yeah it was used as an excuse to not have m/m romance in ME1.  It's posted by one of the devs in the old forum.  Like what you just said, it's why we are not going to buy it if the same excuse is used again.


MEH. That's all I have to say, MEH. Sounds like a bunch of bulllllllllllll. :ph34r:

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I can't romance a black woman, is Bioware racist?

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Endurance_117 wrote...

I can't romance a black woman, is Bioware racist?


Lol. To hear some of the people on here tell it, yes.

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I'd like Same-Sex romances as long as it's with a new character or a character with an unestablished/undetermined sexuality. Turning Ashley, Kaiden, etc. etc. gay would kind of ruin their characters since they have already been in straight romances.

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Deejtage wrote...

I'd like Same-Sex romances as long as it's with a new character or a character with an unestablished/undetermined sexuality. Turning Garrus, Tali, Miranda, Kaiden, etc. etc. gay would kind of ruin their characters since they have already been in straight romances.


BAM! Someone who gets it. Well done.

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JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

Deejtage wrote...

I'd like Same-Sex romances as long as it's with a new character or a character with an unestablished/undetermined sexuality. Turning Garrus, Tali, Miranda, Kaiden, etc. etc. gay would kind of ruin their characters since they have already been in straight romances.


BAM! Someone who gets it. Well done.

It's a reasonable request, even though i fail to see how sexuality would change a character.  Not all gays and bisexuals act like stereotypes, you know.....A straight Kaidan wouldn't have to be any different from a bisexual Kaidan.

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But, you see they may have not been in any romances. If I choose not to have any than you cannot say that as a fact as the player is who allows the romance to happen in game.

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Endurance_117 wrote...

I can't romance a black woman, is Bioware racist?


You can romance a black man, at least. That is more than some of us can do...

And yes, I realize that is hypocritical. That is like saying "Well, you can have lesbian interactions, at least. That counts for something, right?"

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Arik7 wrote...

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

Deejtage wrote...

I'd like Same-Sex romances as long as it's with a new character or a character with an unestablished/undetermined sexuality. Turning Garrus, Tali, Miranda, Kaiden, etc. etc. gay would kind of ruin their characters since they have already been in straight romances.


BAM! Someone who gets it. Well done.

It's a reasonable request, even though i fail to see how sexuality would change a character.  Not all gays and bisexuals act like stereotypes, you know.....A straight Kaidan wouldn't have to be any different from a bisexual Kaidan.


Sigh...really? I mean I'm just sick of repeating myself. What's wrong with you people? After watching 2 seasons of Battlestar Galactica where you kinda thought Bill Adama had the hots for the President (female) and all of a sudden he turned round and went gay with Saul Tigh? Get a ****ing grip, not gonna happen.

As previously mentioned, this hoping against hope to get characters changed **** just does my ****ing swede in.
Bioware WILL NOT change the characters, its a moronic request.

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Deejtage wrote...

I'd like Same-Sex romances as long as it's with a new character or a character with an unestablished/undetermined sexuality. Turning Ashley, Kaiden, etc. etc. gay would kind of ruin their characters since they have already been in straight romances.

I don't know about the Kaiden in your game, but the one in mine had a crush on one girl when they were kids under pressure at BATT, and has had no other relationships mentioned since. I don't consider that a 'straight romance.'

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Endurance_117 wrote...

November Cousland wrote...

Kangasniemi wrote...

Do we really need a new Zevran in this game who talks only about how he
likes hard leather boots and leather armor and acts pretty much like
the most stereotypical (forgive my politically incorrect term here)
"queer"?



I just don't get this at all. Zevran oozes masculinity.


lol no


"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man."

I think I am pretty clear on what's sexy and masculine TO ME.<3

Modifié par November Cousland, 11 février 2010 - 02:03 .


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JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

Deejtage wrote...

I'd like Same-Sex romances as long as it's with a new character or a character with an unestablished/undetermined sexuality. Turning Garrus, Tali, Miranda, Kaiden, etc. etc. gay would kind of ruin their characters since they have already been in straight romances.


BAM! Someone who gets it. Well done.


Some characters like Jack or Garrus could very easily be bisexual (Jack mentions as much). The lines are worded so that it's very easy to see them that way in ME3 if Bioware wanted it. It's out of character for some, but not all.

As one of the gay male gamers I can safely say I don't feel cheated at all. I would have loved an option, sure, but in the end I'm just happy enough they include relationships at all. And relationships like Garrus, interspecies! Now that takes some guts, and I love them for it.

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Arik7 wrote...

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

Deejtage wrote...

I'd like Same-Sex romances as long as it's with a new character or a character with an unestablished/undetermined sexuality. Turning Garrus, Tali, Miranda, Kaiden, etc. etc. gay would kind of ruin their characters since they have already been in straight romances.


BAM! Someone who gets it. Well done.

It's a reasonable request, even though i fail to see how sexuality would change a character.  Not all gays and bisexuals act like stereotypes, you know.....A straight Kaidan wouldn't have to be any different from a bisexual Kaidan.


That's true, but I think because we are on the last game of Shepard's story, changing existing characters sexuality this late might be, I don't know, unwanted perhaps. Trust me, I'd like Kaiden as much as the next (gay) guy.

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JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

Arik7 wrote...

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

Deejtage wrote...

I'd like Same-Sex romances as long as it's with a new character or a character with an unestablished/undetermined sexuality. Turning Garrus, Tali, Miranda, Kaiden, etc. etc. gay would kind of ruin their characters since they have already been in straight romances.


BAM! Someone who gets it. Well done.

It's a reasonable request, even though i fail to see how sexuality would change a character.  Not all gays and bisexuals act like stereotypes, you know.....A straight Kaidan wouldn't have to be any different from a bisexual Kaidan.


Sigh...really? I mean I'm just sick of repeating myself. What's wrong with you people? After watching 2 seasons of Battlestar Galactica where you kinda thought Bill Adama had the hots for the President (female) and all of a sudden he turned round and went gay with Saul Tigh? Get a ****ing grip, not gonna happen.

As previously mentioned, this hoping against hope to get characters changed **** just does my ****ing swede in.
Bioware WILL NOT change the characters, its a moronic request.

Why does the thought of someone else thinking of Kaiden as gay or bi disturb you so much? Heck, why does the thought of someone considering MaleShep gay or bi disturb you? They're not commenting on the characters in your game...they're commenting on the ones in theirs.

Modifié par Temper_Graniteskul, 11 février 2010 - 02:06 .


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Temper_Graniteskul wrote...

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

Arik7 wrote...

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

Deejtage wrote...

I'd like Same-Sex romances as long as it's with a new character or a character with an unestablished/undetermined sexuality. Turning Garrus, Tali, Miranda, Kaiden, etc. etc. gay would kind of ruin their characters since they have already been in straight romances.


BAM! Someone who gets it. Well done.

It's a reasonable request, even though i fail to see how sexuality would change a character.  Not all gays and bisexuals act like stereotypes, you know.....A straight Kaidan wouldn't have to be any different from a bisexual Kaidan.


Sigh...really? I mean I'm just sick of repeating myself. What's wrong with you people? After watching 2 seasons of Battlestar Galactica where you kinda thought Bill Adama had the hots for the President (female) and all of a sudden he turned round and went gay with Saul Tigh? Get a ****ing grip, not gonna happen.

As previously mentioned, this hoping against hope to get characters changed **** just does my ****ing swede in.
Bioware WILL NOT change the characters, its a moronic request.

Why does the thought of someone else thinking of Kaiden as gay or bi disturb you so much? Heck, why does the though of someone considering MaleShep gay or bi disturb you? They're not commenting on the characters in your game...they're commenting on the ones in theirs.


It isn't the thought, its the active lobbying to get Bioware to change them. This thread should be about options, not idle fantasies of gay men.

Chances are 90% on that there won't be m/m romance full stop. I'd stake my ****ing house on it.

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I can't romance a black woman, is Bioware racist?

I actually thought about it, a black woman as LI.  They have had 3 white women as LIs in ME1 and ME2 so I think there might be a possiblity of having a black woman as LI in ME3.

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JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

Arik7 wrote...

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

Deejtage wrote...

I'd like Same-Sex romances as long as it's with a new character or a character with an unestablished/undetermined sexuality. Turning Garrus, Tali, Miranda, Kaiden, etc. etc. gay would kind of ruin their characters since they have already been in straight romances.


BAM! Someone who gets it. Well done.

It's a reasonable request, even though i fail to see how sexuality would change a character.  Not all gays and bisexuals act like stereotypes, you know.....A straight Kaidan wouldn't have to be any different from a bisexual Kaidan.


Sigh...really? I mean I'm just sick of repeating myself. What's wrong with you people? After watching 2 seasons of Battlestar Galactica where you kinda thought Bill Adama had the hots for the President (female) and all of a sudden he turned round and went gay with Saul Tigh? Get a ****ing grip, not gonna happen.

As previously mentioned, this hoping against hope to get characters changed **** just does my ****ing swede in.
Bioware WILL NOT change the characters, its a moronic request.

No need to get defensive.  I said your position is reasonable....    I guess we've just seen too many cases of true sexuality revealing itself later in life...  Sometimes there's more to a person than meets the eye, that's all....

Modifié par Arik7, 11 février 2010 - 02:10 .


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Deejtage wrote...

Arik7 wrote...

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

Deejtage wrote...

I'd like Same-Sex romances as long as it's with a new character or a character with an unestablished/undetermined sexuality. Turning Garrus, Tali, Miranda, Kaiden, etc. etc. gay would kind of ruin their characters since they have already been in straight romances.


BAM! Someone who gets it. Well done.

It's a reasonable request, even though i fail to see how sexuality would change a character.  Not all gays and bisexuals act like stereotypes, you know.....A straight Kaidan wouldn't have to be any different from a bisexual Kaidan.


That's true, but I think because we are on the last game of Shepard's story, changing existing characters sexuality this late might be, I don't know, unwanted perhaps. Trust me, I'd like Kaiden as much as the next (gay) guy.



To be completely honest...

completely....

I think Kaiden is a raging ******. Like, gayer than Elton John's handbag. Like, dancing to some Kander and Ebb gay. More closetted than Anderson Cooper. I actually have a hard time taking him seriously in game. The fact that he talks about his relationship with a woman is the only reason I see him straight....errr, bi.

Just sayin'.

:innocent:

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JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

It isn't the thought, its the active lobbying to get Bioware to change them. This thread should be about options, not idle fantasies of gay men.


<---------girl

Modifié par November Cousland, 11 février 2010 - 02:09 .