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#1201
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Kuravid wrote...

Sabul wrote...

Kuravid wrote...

It's not that people are going to riot against male-male romances, it's just that they're probably going to be put off by it. Could also be that some of the writers who designed the characters are simply put off by it.

The writers originally designed a few of the characters as bisexual. Voices were recorded and scenes were animated. It was cut out near the final stages of the game. However left on the disks for players and modders to reenable. I do not think they were put off but rather they had to disable it because of outside pressure. This is in both games by the way.


Ah yes, I remember that talk about Alistair and Morrigan getting that dialogue in DA, as well. However I believe a moderator left some comments (I couldn't link this to you because I don't know of the posts) about how just because the dialogue was written in and voiced for modders to reenable, didn't mean that they intended for that character to be a bisexual option in the actual game (like, canon-wise, for lack of a better term).


Wait waht? 

There's no dialogue for Alistair specifically for a male Warden in a romance.

:huh:

DO you remember what the files are called because I don't think that's true. There's a Alistair x Male Warden version of the sex scene but otherwise...

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comicfan22 wrote...

ReDSH1FT wrote...


This is a stupid idea.

This implies that Shepard is interested in both genders.  Him having the option to be hitting on Steve the Seaman means he's thinking about it.  Which makes him a ******, which he isn't.

You crazies are still going at this.  Even after the IGN article.  Pathetic.


Cool story bro


I'm surprised he didn't go Colonel Sanders ape **** on you..

RedShift-

"YOU ANGRY BOYYY, YOU AIN'T GOT NO SENSE, ANGRY ******, YOU PEOPLE ARE DISGUSTING AND HOMOSEXUALITY IS A SIN, AND I WILL OFFER YOU 2 PIECES OF EXTRA CRISPY WITH COLESLAW YA'LL!"

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When are you all going to face the reality that no one, asides from yourselves, cares about this?

You know they have blogs and groups for a reason right?

Why are you spamming this thread to keep it alive? Is it because you all know that it will be buried in less than an hour because no one, asides from yourselves, cares?

Seriously, there are more worthy causes out there then harassing a game developer to include gay content in a video game. Do you all realize how petty this makes you all look? This is not Stonewall ok. Give it a break, take a deep breath and get over it.

-_-

Modifié par Taiko Roshi, 13 février 2010 - 10:21 .


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Taiko Roshi wrote...

When are you all going to face the reality that no one, asides from yourselves, cares about this?

You know they have blogs and groups for a reason right?

Why are you spamming this thread to keep it alive? Is it because you all know that it will be buried in less than an hour because no one, asides from yourselves, cares?

Seriously, there are more worthy causes out there then harassing a game developer to include gay content in a video game. Do you all realize how petty this makes you all look? This is not Stonewall ok. Give it a break, take a deep breath and get over it.

-_-


Thank God you fell asleep, I was getting tired of your drivel too..atleast James is gone, now we won't have to listen to his verbal flatulence and condescending nonsense.

anyway, where's Ryuuichi..I miss her Ryuuichi san..where are youuu

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Anyway, back on topic, I just want an m/m option like I said, it could be DLC..that would be fine. I'm not trying to force anything on any player, I just want an extra option for me and other people who would like to play it

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Taiko Roshi wrote...

When are you all going to face the reality that no one, asides from yourselves, cares about this?

You know they have blogs and groups for a reason right?

Why are you spamming this thread to keep it alive? Is it because you all know that it will be buried in less than an hour because no one, asides from yourselves, cares?

Seriously, there are more worthy causes out there then harassing a game developer to include gay content in a video game. Do you all realize how petty this makes you all look? This is not Stonewall ok. Give it a break, take a deep breath and get over it.

-_-


And one can nonsurprisingly use that for every single thread in this board other than Tech issues. :bandit:

And thanks for bumping the thread by the way.

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Taiko Roshi wrote...

When are you all going to face the reality that no one, asides from yourselves, cares about this?

You know they have blogs and groups for a reason right?

Why are you spamming this thread to keep it alive? Is it because you all know that it will be buried in less than an hour because no one, asides from yourselves, cares?

Seriously, there are more worthy causes out there then harassing a game developer to include gay content in a video game. Do you all realize how petty this makes you all look? This is not Stonewall ok. Give it a break, take a deep breath and get over it.

-_-


Bang on, fella.
Set of sad act's failing is sad act's failing. Especially Ninja Mage. Gonna be fun to flame that tithead when ME3 comes out :D

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Ninja Mage wrote...



Thank God you fell asleep, I was getting tired of your drivel too..atleast James is gone, now we won't have to listen to his verbal flatulence and condescending nonsense.

anyway, where's Ryuuichi..I miss her Ryuuichi san..where are youuu


I see you have lost none of your "moral superiority" from the last thread. Let me guess, as soon as someone makes a post which disagrees with your opinion and social agenda, like a true gutless progressive, you are going to run away and have a sulk. Of course, anyone who disagrees withe your opinion and social agenda suffers from"verbal flatulence", and believe me the only condescending one here is you.

If you have any integrity at all, answer the questions: 
When are you all going to face the reality that no one, asides from yourselves, cares about this?

You know they have blogs and groups for a reason right?

Why are you spamming this thread to keep it alive? Is it because you all know that it will be buried in less than an hour because no one, asides from yourselves, cares?

Do you all realize how petty this makes you all look?

I challenge you to stop spam posting this thread and bumping it. Let see how long it last on the front page. No one, asides from a very small minority, actually cares.

Modifié par Taiko Roshi, 13 février 2010 - 11:13 .


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i think - if you play a pre designed character as you do - and in this case i think its good cause it makes the story more believable and "alive" - and if this character is simply not gay, then there should also be no gay option...pretty simple - BUT then there also shouldnt be an option to play as female...

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Nemesis7884 wrote...

i think - if you play a pre designed character as you do - and in this case i think its good cause it makes the story more believable and "alive" - and if this character is simply not gay, then there should also be no gay option...pretty simple - BUT then there also shouldnt be an option to play as female...


In a previous post, somebody quoted one of the devs saying in an interview that Shepard could be anything the player wanted. Including customizing his face, such as we can. This leads me to believe that the character, as per this being a single-player RPG, is meant to be open to the player.

However, on the issue of sexuality, it is not. I'd not expect a totally open bisexual orgy or anything, but one little option (even if it had to be buried in a long dialogue chain with various opt-out choices, like in Dragons Age), would be nice.

Modifié par NightLad, 13 février 2010 - 12:04 .


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PyroFreak301 wrote...
I was brought up in a, for lack of a better term, casually homophobic family. They weren't outright hateful towards gays, but they were never above the occasional "F-ing queers" type comment, it's the small stuff like like this that shapes a young persons view on the world. Duing my early-mid teens I viewed being gay as a negative thing, only later when I actually thought about it in some detail did I make my own opinion on it. It seems some people never outgrow it, or get stuck in social circles that are quick to abuse people for being gay, your friend being an all too common example of what can happen when beliefs go unchallenged.


I think quite a lot of us have been. My parents are similar: they act nice to gay strangers but not so nice when they think there aren't any around. In a way it is worse than openly homophobic behavior. I mean there's no real venom in their voice but it's almost like it's a reflex. :pinched:

It's also curious that they are more accepting towards lesbians. Perhaps because of my friend who they have known since we were both kids, who is a lesbian and still lives next to them. Courteous and friendly as long as it is someone they know but doesn't have *too* close familial ties. My mom seems to be more vocal about opposing things too.

It's a bit same towards anything that is "weird" to them be it religion, immigrants or gays. I think they have some troubles adjusting to "modern" world. Then again it seems a lot people have hard time adjusting to "modern" world - even so called "modern" people. <_<

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Set of sad act's failing is sad act's failing. Especially Ninja Mage. Gonna be fun to flame that tithead when ME3 comes out :D



Very good. So much for the "trolling, who's trolling, you're trolling!"-lines. Pathetic. And yeah, I was talking about you, if there was anything unclear.

Modifié par Lightice_av, 13 février 2010 - 01:03 .


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Sabul wrote...
I am much the same. I play games as myself. That is I pick the options that me myself would feel comfortable with. I am the person who always plays Paragon because renegade makes him feel uncomfortable. I tried to get through a dark side playthrough in KOTOR. Did not happen. I felt horrible after my first murder. I reloaded the save prior and did a Grey Jedi playthrough instead. I have replayed that game so many times but never managed the dark side. It is just not me. So having myself just being nice always cause character to fall for me is troublesome.


Heh ditto. I just have hard time performing renegade actions even in game. I mean I know it's just a game but still...

I also share the interest about knowing NPCs and their backgrounds without wanting to sound like a jerk - even if they are in game characters. I mean it's pretty easy to figure out signs of someone being interested in you in real life and turn down them gently, actually slightly adjusting your behaviour so that it doesn't even come down to that. I can think only one time in my life where I had to outright tell someone I'm not interested in them. After that I learned to do a bit more "preventive damage control" if the signs were there. :whistle:

Sadly I think there's some truth to the NPC reactions. If you are willing to listen someone, be nice to them, and learn about their life, troubles and everything, it seems they eventually start showing interest in you. Sometimes even if they are in a relationship. :crying:

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Shepard is too badass to be gay or bi. Straight he will remain!

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Taiko Roshi wrote...
I see you have lost none of your "moral superiority" from the last thread. Let me guess, as soon as someone makes a post which disagrees with your opinion and social agenda, like a true gutless progressive, you are going to run away and have a sulk. Of course, anyone who disagrees withe your opinion and social agenda suffers from"verbal flatulence", and believe me the only condescending one here is you.

If you have any integrity at all, answer the questions: 
When are you all going to face the reality that no one, asides from yourselves, cares about this?

You know they have blogs and groups for a reason right?

Why are you spamming this thread to keep it alive? Is it because you all know that it will be buried in less than an hour because no one, asides from yourselves, cares?

Do you all realize how petty this makes you all look?

I challenge you to stop spam posting this thread and bumping it. Let see how long it last on the front page. No one, asides from a very small minority, actually cares.


Keeping threads active here on the forums was a large part of making it clear to BioWare what was important to fans between ME1 and ME2.  If the fans don't raise their voices, BioWare doesn't know what we want.  

Just as an example from the previous forums--the Garrus and Tali fans.  BioWare was surprised at the positive fan reaction to these two characters, especially at the desire to have them as romance interests.  We raised a lot of hell on the old forums, made it very, very clear how much we cared about the characters, and got what we wanted for ME2.  Same thing with the ammo system, or the Mako, or any other requests for ME2.  The way to get things done around here is to bring them to BioWare's attention.  For better or for worse, that means threads in the forums about those topics.  The fans who want same-sex romance have as much of a right to post, bump, and promote their cause as, say, the Garrus fans.  Or the Tali fans.  Or insert-fan-demographic here ^_^

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In my case the Tali-thread and this one here is basically the same. I always play femShep ^^

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SimonTheFrog wrote...

In my case the Tali-thread and this one here is basically the same. I always play femShep ^^


So you're interested in a f/f tali romance?  There is obviously dialogue included that hints at such, but it doesn't seem to go anywhere.

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Taiko Roshi wrote...

When are you all going to face the reality that no one, asides from yourselves, cares about this?

You know they have blogs and groups for a reason right?

Why are you spamming this thread to keep it alive? Is it because you all know that it will be buried in less than an hour because no one, asides from yourselves, cares?

Seriously, there are more worthy causes out there then harassing a game developer to include gay content in a video game. Do you all realize how petty this makes you all look? This is not Stonewall ok. Give it a break, take a deep breath and get over it.

-_-

Do you feel the same way about my black "Shepard" kissing Miranda, who is white? The notion of a gay romance does not bother me in any way.  Gay people are a pillar of our civilization and it's something that you need to get use to.  They should have the option.

Now, I just want to know where I can get some fried chicken and watermelon. Those deep space scanning missions are rough on a brotha! :P

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Tali-mance for fem-shepard would be nice

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Taiko Roshi wrote...

I see you have lost none of your "moral superiority" from the last thread. Let me guess, as soon as someone makes a post which disagrees with your opinion and social agenda, like a true gutless progressive, you are going to run away and have a sulk. Of course, anyone who disagrees withe your opinion and social agenda suffers from"verbal flatulence", and believe me the only condescending one here is you.

If you have any integrity at all, answer the questions: 
When are you all going to face the reality that no one, asides from yourselves, cares about this?

You know they have blogs and groups for a reason right?

Why are you spamming this thread to keep it alive? Is it because you all know that it will be buried in less than an hour because no one, asides from yourselves, cares?

Do you all realize how petty this makes you all look?

I challenge you to stop spam posting this thread and bumping it. Let see how long it last on the front page. No one, asides from a very small minority, actually cares.

You know what, you're right!

Lets try and silence all suggestions people would like to see in this game and/or ME3, I mean forums users in general are a very small minority of the actual player base, so no-one really cares about what people here think, right?

While we're on the subject of pettiness, do you realise how petty you sound telling us we're wasting our time because you dont care about it?

Modifié par PyroFreak301, 13 février 2010 - 03:18 .


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Yeah, it's the same with other LI's. They keep building up tension and then nothing happens. I always play femShep because it's just awesome to have a cute girl beating up the galaxy ^^. The head butt with the Krogan was beyond awesome :D

Anyway... Tali is a lovely crew mate that's why i'd want to have my captain to relate with her. There are so sweet lines coming from both Tali and femShep, it's unlike anything i've ever seen in a game.



If i play maleShep i'd like to hit on Garrus. He's got reach...

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Buppazudan wrote...

Shepard is too badass to be gay or bi. Straight he will remain!



mmmm nope. Sorrry. My Shep is already gay. If you can find me some empirical evidence to prove otherwise I might believe you, but...until then you're just wrong :pinched:

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SimonTheFrog wrote...

Yeah, it's the same with other LI's. They keep building up tension and then nothing happens. I always play femShep because it's just awesome to have a cute girl beating up the galaxy ^^. The head butt with the Krogan was beyond awesome :D
Anyway... Tali is a lovely crew mate that's why i'd want to have my captain to relate with her. There are so sweet lines coming from both Tali and femShep, it's unlike anything i've ever seen in a game.

If i play maleShep i'd like to hit on Garrus. He's got reach...


But Shepard has flexibility Image IPB

Modifié par FataliTensei, 13 février 2010 - 03:30 .


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What about Mordin? He might... know stuff... *cough*



Jokes aside, being openly gay I would fully support and M/M relationship in ME3 but at this point, it might just feel tacted on. Shepard has already been established as a straight guy so unless it took some route you'd expect to find in a fanfic along the lines of either Shepard being a huge closet case or some new crew member saying something along the lines of "So, you've never even thought about being with a guy?" which would feel a little tired and cliché IMHO. If they did do it it would have to be done very well so it's probably best to keep the metaphorical can of worms well sealed.

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LtShelfLife wrote...

What about Mordin? He might... know stuff... *cough*

Jokes aside, being openly gay I would fully support and M/M relationship in ME3 but at this point, it might just feel tacted on. Shepard has already been established as a straight guy so unless it took some route you'd expect to find in a fanfic along the lines of either Shepard being a huge closet case or some new crew member saying something along the lines of "So, you've never even thought about being with a guy?" which would feel a little tired and cliché IMHO. If they did do it it would have to be done very well so it's probably best to keep the metaphorical can of worms well sealed.


I wouldn't say he's been established as straight, the poor guy just hasn't has anyone to hit on Image IPB