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[wulf3n]

Before i get started im not bagging either ME1 or ME2 they are still some of the best games i've played.

However, while playing the game, theres something nagging me, i can't quite put my finger on what it is, yet it somehow sucks me out of the illusion that this is real.
Other sci-fi games like the Halo series(even  though i think mass effect is better) have me believing that the future they've created is one that COULD exist, it feels real to me, but for some reason Mass Effect doesn't.
At first i thought it may have been the squeeky clean feel to ME1, almost like a disney movie, it didn't really show the darker side of nature, however that issue was addressed in ME2, yet i still feel the same way.

Im wondering if anyone has the same feeling, or may know what the reason could be.

[Talogrungi]

It's the Asari. Everyone knows they're green in real life.

[Kyle Dei]

The Halo Universe is based upon humanity reaching for the stars in our own way without much influence from other sources. In Mass Effect Humanity reaches Mars and gets a major technological boost. Maybe that's why it doesn't seem like a viable future to you?

[Gar_Logan]

I feel the exact opposite. Halo looks like some...well, it doesn't look real. However Mass Effect seems actually plausible.

[sergio71785]

It's the lack of two genders. We haven't interacted with any female Volus, Turian, Krogen (that one on Tuchunka does't count), Hanaar, Vorcha, Elcor or Batarians. And we didn't even get male Quarians until ME2.

Modifié par sergio71785, 09 février 2010 - 10:46 .

[Nautica773]

Gar_Logan wrote...

I feel the exact opposite. Halo looks like some...well, it doesn't look real. However Mass Effect seems actually plausible.

I came to post this. I found Halo really straining my suspension of disbelief. Don't ask me how, there was just something with the format in how the game was set up that just had me unable to get immersed in its lore.

It does have lore, right?

[xchrisxfoxx]

ME universe seems more plausible to me...idk it just does

[Lukertin]

Maybe it's the whole biotics thing which is basically space magic?

The technology in Halo (except for slipspace) is based on current technology only fast-forwarded 200 years so the developments are 'believable'. (edit: ME does a good job at this as well, not denigrating the tech aspect of ME, but the whole biotics thing requires some suspension of disbelief)

Modifié par Lukertin, 09 février 2010 - 10:50 .

[wulf3n]

Nautica773 wrote...

Gar_Logan wrote...

I feel the exact opposite. Halo looks like some...well, it doesn't look real. However Mass Effect seems actually plausible.

I came to post this. I found Halo really straining my suspension of disbelief. Don't ask me how, there was just something with the format in how the game was set up that just had me unable to get immersed in its lore.

It does have lore, right?

Yeah however most of it is very vague in the game, and fleshed out in the books.

[binaryemperor]

It's more plausible than Star Wars.

[Skilled Seeker]

sergio71785 wrote...

It's the lack of two genders. We haven't interacted with any female Volus, Turian, Krogen (that one on Tuchunka does't count), Hanaar, Vorcha, Elcor or Batarians. And we didn't even get male Quarians until ME2.

keep in mind we didn't get ANY quarians other than Tali in ME1. And it should be that way since they are not welcome in Council space.

[Frotality]

ME is much more intergrated in fictional aliens as equals, because so much about them is presented as similar to us, it may, no pun intended, alienate you from the thought that they are truly 'alien', if aliens are anything IRL, we assume different; it is much easier to believe, say: halo.

Halo focuses entirely on humanity as the 'good guys', relegating all aliens to villian roles, much easier to believe abnormal creatures as bad guys.

[tsd16]

Nautica773 wrote...

Gar_Logan wrote...

I feel the exact opposite. Halo looks like some...well, it doesn't look real. However Mass Effect seems actually plausible.

I came to post this. I found Halo really straining my suspension of disbelief. Don't ask me how, there was just something with the format in how the game was set up that just had me unable to get immersed in its lore.

It does have lore, right?

I have to agree, I like the occational shooter, while I prefer games with deep stories.   about 3-4  years ago I got a free copy of halo1 for PC with a sound card.  I played it for about 3 hours before I was bored to tears, never touched it again.

[Naltair]

binaryemperor wrote...

It's more plausible than Star Wars.

I agree.

[ShadowWolf_Kell]

Halo's suspension of disbelief lasted until you ran into the first Grunt 5 minutes into the game. It went downhill from there.



That's not to say it wasn't fun. It was. Just hardly believable much like ID's games.

[Kosmiker]

I love the ME universe, but I can understand that for some the lack of some "realistic" elements might give you that feeling, examples:



*NPCs don't walk, they are static in the same place everytime, everyday.



*All aliens speak english.



*There's not enough lore.



*Day/Night cycle doesn't occur in the same location.



*You can't go to the bathroom without bringing your squadmates with you, females included. If you want to take a dump, do it in the Normandy.

[Cpl_Facehugger]

Nautica773 wrote...

Gar_Logan wrote...

I feel the exact opposite. Halo looks like some...well, it doesn't look real. However Mass Effect seems actually plausible.

I came to post this. I found Halo really straining my suspension of disbelief. Don't ask me how, there was just something with the format in how the game was set up that just had me unable to get immersed in its lore.

It does have lore, right?

Yes, Halo has lore. Trite and unimaginative lore, but it does exist. However, the problem with Halo's lore is that it's inconsistent and stupid as all hell. It's five hundred years in the future, yet they use guns that wouldn't be out of place in the 1960s. They also use guns that have a 30 meter effective range in the lore. Mass Effect guns at least seem like something that's a century or two more advanced than a good old fashioned M4.  

[Lukertin]

Naltair wrote...

binaryemperor wrote...
It's more plausible than Star Wars.

I agree.

George Bush actually being a Sith from Star Wars is more plausible than Star Wars.

And that's saying something.

[Lukertin]

Kosmiker wrote...
*All aliens speak english.

This is explained in the codex...

[DuffyMJ]

Halo is terribly inconsistent and full of retcon... None of the novels or comics or anything outside the 3 game are consistent with the games at all (Elites first appear in the war at the battle of reach right before the end of halo in one book, and then that's completely retconned in the next book, brutes only appear between halo 1 and 2 in this battle called first strike in the novels, but then had been around sinceu the beginning according to ODST and the lastest halo fiction. So yeah, f that.

Oh yeah and the aliens speak in obnoxious dungeons and dragons-esque style with lame british accents after they had really cool alien voices in halo 1. boooo.

Modifié par DuffyMJ, 09 février 2010 - 11:07 .

[ZennExile]

wulf3n wrote...

Before i get started im not bagging either ME1 or ME2 they are still some of the best games i've played.

However, while playing the game, theres something nagging me, i can't quite put my finger on what it is, yet it somehow sucks me out of the illusion that this is real.
Other sci-fi games like the Halo series(even  though i think mass effect is better) have me believing that the future they've created is one that COULD exist, it feels real to me, but for some reason Mass Effect doesn't.
At first i thought it may have been the squeeky clean feel to ME1, almost like a disney movie, it didn't really show the darker side of nature, however that issue was addressed in ME2, yet i still feel the same way.

Im wondering if anyone has the same feeling, or may know what the reason could be.

When you say things like "a Disney Movie" it makes me believe you never played the first Mass Effect and just read about it on forums.  After I get to that point I just can't decide whether I should play into your little game or just ignore you.

It's a difficult position to be in.  Especially considering the only believable part of halo is the pistol, which they removed from sequels...

So I guess this calls for a "Cool story bro!!"

Clearly Disney --

vrs

Clearly Softcore Porn --

[Kosmiker]

Lukertin wrote...

Kosmiker wrote...
*All aliens speak english.

This is explained in the codex...

Ups.. sorry about that.

Another "unrealistic" example:

*Many things seem to be "codex-dependable"

[Naltair]

Yeah the codex explains much of the details.

[Tooneyman]

sergio71785 wrote...

It's the lack of two genders. We haven't interacted with any female Volus, Turian, Krogen (that one on Tuchunka does't count), Hanaar, Vorcha, Elcor or Batarians. And we didn't even get male Quarians until ME2.

That is exaclty right. kootows to you