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DA Awakening official trailer is WRONG!!!


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I really do not like the DA Awakening trailer
One of the main reasons is because in DA Origins I agree to execute Allistar and side with Logan so as far as I am concern I should never ever see him again! EVER! and what happens in a trailer? Alistar pops out 3 timmes in a row all happy and friendly.
I mean why would anyone include a character in a trailer who has a possibility of dying in Origins? Seems like a big mistake!
Secondly, it just does not show much, at all! Seemed like an average RPG, there is epicness missing! And since its not another add-on I truly belive BioWare should rethink and give a serious consideration to come up with a new, better trailer which would make sence logically, and of course more flushy and unique!  

ps:
What is up with catch frase, its a talking Darkspawn, it can talk, wow, big deal, as far as I am concern rabbits can talk in 'Alice in Wonderland' =]

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In your playthrough (and also in my playthrough) where you see in the trailer Alistair you will see Anora. If you see a scene in the trailer this doesn't mean that EVERYBODY are going to see that scene.. ;)

Modifié par MaxQuartiroli, 09 février 2010 - 11:02 .


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Nearly everyone can die. There's no information on what will happen on this front. Just relax and wait and see.

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So... uhm... ya, don't buy the expansion and quit your whining?

Seriously, what's the point of complainning about the trailer of all things.

Modifié par Drasanil, 09 février 2010 - 11:42 .


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You do know decisions in the first game go through into the expansion right? They were just showing that particular possibility. It's an EXPANSION, the trailer can't be "wrong" because maybe in that play through they did not kill Alistair.

Think before you jump to conclusions like that.

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Who says that Alistair ever was in fact executed? Scheduled to be executed and actually executed are not the same thing.....


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You can also sacrifice yourself in the end. Does that mean that the whole expansion is wrong, because you shouldn't exist anymore according to one specific savegame? Maybe they should cancel it.

:innocent:

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Another valid point regarding the execution.
As for that, I think that is why you can make a new Orlesian character, in case you made the sacrifice. Honestly I couldn't care less, as long as the gameplay was good.

Modifié par worksa8, 10 février 2010 - 12:07 .


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The trailer just shows on e of the possible endings. It does not show your particular ending. Just like if you did the ultimate scarfice you will play the warden commander instead of your character. A trailer is just a peak into the game.

Also you do not know what has transpired between DA:O's ending and Awakening. Was Anora assissinated and Alistair took the throne while awaiting execution? Did Alistair get reprieved and start a coup?

Relax all will be revealed in the expansion.

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I'm happy Alistair is coming back :)

Fangirl comment aside, I do understand why people would be upset if the expansion of a game contradicts your decisions. If it is a separate game and the developers base it on a cannon story, I have no problems. However an expansion to a game implies that it furthers your experience in that game: if the game is about the choices you have made, deleting those choices and replacing them with cannon seems silly as it removes the very point of your initial input.



That said, I don't think we know enough about Awakenings to know if there is or not a cannon ending. I think that what would make more sense would be to have a variety of settings to acomodate each ending choice (in broad terms) so that the player can really pick up the playthrough.

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I think it's safe to say they won't be doing that though Fexelea.

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Why not? It wouldn't be a ludicrous proposition as much as having 6 possible origin stories wasn't.

There are not that many endings from a Ferelden perspective:



Kill Loghain or not (Loghain alive or not)

Marry Anora&Alistair or not (Who rules)

Kill Archdemon yoursel or not (Are you alive or not, Are Alistair/Loghain alive or not)

Do Ritual or not (Are both you and other wardens alive or someone is dead)

Marry yourself or not (Are you King/Queen or not)



The love sub-plots and the travelling around can be skirted for everyone because the endings were so vage.

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I say that because they pretty much stated they wouldn't Fexelea.

Dragon Age is all about decisions and moral dilemma. When Bioware explained what some of the features in this game were they said the choices you made in DAO would follow through into the expansion. The lack of Companions means the decisions are really not all that great in number, and once again, I can safely say I'm sure they will not cut all the major decisions people made. Some might be more significant then others, but contradicted- no.

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There was also a trailers for the original in which Caradin makes a crown and Alastair is shown as king for a moment.



So, they have to base their trailers on something, and making Alastair king seems to be the most popular decision. I think they thought as far as to making the expansion correspond to your decisions, otherwise it would be a very crappy expansion.

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Fexelea wrote...

Why not? It wouldn't be a ludicrous proposition as much as having 6 possible origin stories wasn't.
There are not that many endings from a Ferelden perspective:

Kill Loghain or not (Loghain alive or not)
Marry Anora&Alistair or not (Who rules)
Kill Archdemon yoursel or not (Are you alive or not, Are Alistair/Loghain alive or not)
Do Ritual or not (Are both you and other wardens alive or someone is dead)
Marry yourself or not (Are you King/Queen or not)

The love sub-plots and the travelling around can be skirted for everyone because the endings were so vage.


I like the marry yourself option :D

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I'm not trying to be obtuse, can you point me to where they have stated that your main ending/character choices will not be included? I saw a post about not being able to bring along your favorite companion, but that hardly means that if you killed Loghain he will magically spring back to life. Which is what the OP was concerned about with Alistair.

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@Siradix.



I don't know if you are mocking my grammar... no worries if you are lol. But if you mean you like the Marry and King/Queen option: I agree. I lovez to be Queen.

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http://www.vg247.com...id-to-high-30s/

http://pc.ign.com/ar.../1058656p1.html



That should clear a lot of things up.

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worksa8 wrote...

http://www.vg247.com...id-to-high-30s/
http://pc.ign.com/ar.../1058656p1.html

That should clear a lot of things up.


Doesn't he actually confirm that your archdemon/throne decisions will be respected and carried through? Which means they are accomodating all the "Ferelden" endings? So if Alistair is dead in your game, he should be dead in Awakenings.

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Fexelea wrote...

I'm happy Alistair is coming back :)
Fangirl comment aside, I do understand why people would be upset if the expansion of a game contradicts your decisions. If it is a separate game and the developers base it on a cannon story, I have no problems. However an expansion to a game implies that it furthers your experience in that game: if the game is about the choices you have made, deleting those choices and replacing them with cannon seems silly as it removes the very point of your initial input.

That said, I don't think we know enough about Awakenings to know if there is or not a cannon ending. I think that what would make more sense would be to have a variety of settings to acomodate each ending choice (in broad terms) so that the player can really pick up the playthrough.

You are lucky with Alistair. I just happen to be a Leliana fan. Sniff. No chance of seeing her ever again. :P

I agree with you. An expansion should be what its name implies. It should expand what is already there. Any step back is a violation of that idea.

I won't order the expansion before knowing how it expands the story. If the friendships and relations with the current charcters are lost then I will certainly not buy it. It's not like the expansion is cheap, so it is not strange to ask something more of it than a new canon story with a couple of new items you cannot use in the main story. ;)

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Fexelea wrote...
Doesn't he actually confirm that your archdemon/throne decisions will be respected and carried through? Which means they are accomodating all the "Ferelden" endings? So if Alistair is dead in your game, he should be dead in Awakenings.


Exactly. My point was that all the major choices will likely carry through, it takes place after the DAO storyline- and I'm pretty sure Bioware is not going to just ignore everything from the first game, you have to give them some credit.

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Me too. I'll be holding my soverigns until I know more about how this plays. And how bug-free it is or is not lol. On Leliana... she should get a cameo right? Or maybe the previous party members will get to hang out and talk to you in Denerim or something... I'm still unconvinced Oghren is the returning party member, anyway... I wonder how many people have the upload feedback turned on? My guess would be Morrigan, Alistair and Leliana are the most popular characters by far.

@worksa8
Sorry I misunderstood your first post. I thought you were saying the opposite, that they would *not* be following through with the ending decisions.

Modifié par Fexelea, 10 février 2010 - 01:28 .


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Not at all =3

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worksa8 wrote...

Fexelea wrote...
Doesn't he actually confirm that your archdemon/throne decisions will be respected and carried through? Which means they are accomodating all the "Ferelden" endings? So if Alistair is dead in your game, he should be dead in Awakenings.


Exactly. My point was that all the major choices will likely carry through, it takes place after the DAO storyline- and I'm pretty sure Bioware is not going to just ignore everything from the first game, you have to give them some credit.

You are very sure about that. Good for you. But you would be surprised what they did to two of the returning characters in ME2. Any previous past with them was lost. No matter what choices you made, they acted the same. I cannot post any spoilers. Although it is a different game it is still made by the same company and that game is advertized to expand the story of ME1 and your choices in ME1 would have impact in ME2.

/me mumbles something about cakes and lies. ;)

Modifié par AngryFrozenWater, 10 février 2010 - 01:30 .


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Yes I played ME1 and ME2, I'm aware. I think this is different though, and I doubt they would make the same mistakes again. Also I am talking more about the major choices like at the end of the game, and ones like saving Redcliffe. Small things like saving Sten's sword, or anything to do with him will carry over. (Or other more petite things like that).