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[Mass Fraud]

Will the new Orlesian Grey Warden have "it's" own Origin story or will you suddenly be leveled up to around 20 or so?
I personally hope it's a whole new origin, I wouldn't like having a short little story just for the expansion, even if my character sacrificed himself at the end of DA:O.
Wheather or not you can play the original Dragon Age: Origins story or not.............

[bluecuban]

In a previous interview, they said the Orlesian Warden won't have an origin as elaborate as the original six, and you can't play through Origins with him/her.

[MandatoryDenial1]

honestly right now I am on the fence with this expansion. I loved DA:O, but what is coming out in these rumors/speculation right now has me scratching my head. I don't want to play a new orlesian Grey Warden, I want to continue my character. Yes my choice was to sacrifice, but in all honesty that ending sure made it seem like the character was being brought back and the story was about to continue. Now to find out it isn't is a disappointment. To find out the returning character is Oghren instead of Leilana for instance is another major disappointment since I never really could stomach Oghren/Sten. I didn't find either compelling or frankly worth my time (other than getting their buff).

Modifié par MandatoryDenial1, 10 février 2010 - 03:22 .

[HuNtOziO]

Oghren was amazing! On par with Alistair and Shale with his hilarious comments and burping/farting noises haha. Call me crude, but you cant deny the hilarity.

[MandatoryDenial1]

I agree Oghren was on par with Sten, that is why they both stayed back in camp. Again I can see the drawing power Oghren had on you as I wasn't amused by his 13 year old background. I picked my companions based on usefulness and the quality they added to the story.

I have to disagree strongly about him being as useful as Shale. Honestly I think this assertion is laughable. If you really don't understand the value of Shale, please youtube Shale soloing Flemeth on nightmare mode. It will I think open your eyes.

I don't want to sound harsh, so please don't mistake my tone I respect that gamers are different.  I am happy your going to be happy with the expansion, I just wish I could be as easily entertained.

Modifié par MandatoryDenial1, 10 février 2010 - 03:36 .

[thegreateski]

So how does that pole up your arse feel?

[bri193]

bluecuban wrote...

In a previous interview, they said the Orlesian Warden won't have an origin as elaborate as the original six, and you can't play through Origins with him/her.

Well, this certainly changes my view on DA:A ....
For some reason  I thought doing an entire DA:O play-through as an Orlesian was possible, it would be yet another origin possibility.
So, I presume whatever other added features in DA:A , i.e. new skills, talents, etc, will only be availabe in DA:A and not accessable in DA:O?

[Maria Caliban]

I don't understand people who killed their characters and still want to play them after they're dead. What part of 'ultimate sacrifice' did you not understand?

[Godak]

Maria Caliban wrote...

 What part of 'ultimate sacrifice' did you not understand?

 

You cannot have my twinkies!

*Ahem*

I think people are just regretting their decision to commit quasi-suicide.

[Sable Rhapsody]

Godak wrote...
I think people are just regretting their decision to commit quasi-suicide.

...so reload.  Here I'm assuming everyone made saves before the Landsmeet shenanigans ensued.  Not sure I had to clarify, but you never know 

I like the idea of starting as the Orlesian Warden, though I'm sure then the outcome of DA:O will "default" to an established ending much the way starting ME2 as a new character causes the outcome of ME1 to "default."  It'd be cool if, having killed off the DA:O PC, you can still import his/her decisions into the second game, but have to play as the Orlesian Warden.  I doubt that would happen, but it's still a thought.

[bluecuban]

bri193 wrote...

bluecuban wrote...

In a previous interview, they said the Orlesian Warden won't have an origin as elaborate as the original six, and you can't play through Origins with him/her.

Well, this certainly changes my view on DA:A ....
For some reason  I thought doing an entire DA:O play-through as an Orlesian was possible, it would be yet another origin possibility.
So, I presume whatever other added features in DA:A , i.e. new skills, talents, etc, will only be availabe in DA:A and not accessable in DA:O?

I've wondered myself about accessing the new talents and skills, but there's been no word on that yet.  If it works like it did in Origins, where as soon as you learn/access a new specialization anyone can do it, than you might be able to use them in Origins.  I personally would hope so, but who knows?

[Mass Fraud]

Maria Caliban wrote...

I don't understand people who killed their characters and still want to play them after they're dead. What part of 'ultimate sacrifice' did you not understand?

You'd think so; "ignorance is bliss right? .........at least thats what the chantry kept telling me.":P

[MandatoryDenial1]

Maria Caliban wrote...

I don't understand people who killed their characters and still want to play them after they're dead. What part of 'ultimate sacrifice' did you not understand?

Good question Maria, I can't speak for others and won't attempt to.  Let me instead enlighten you as to what I am thinking.  First off I completely understand the concept of sacrifice having dealt with it in real life.  It has nothing to do with that understanding just so you know.  What it has to do with is disappointment that the ending hinted to in the epilogue for DA: O isn't available to us.  I guess for me I got my hopes up that it would be when DA: A was released with the statement that DA:A  would be "fully compatible" with your Dragon Age playthrough.  Maybe its just me Maria, but it doesn't look to compatible from where I am sitting.

Understand now?!?

Modifié par MandatoryDenial1, 10 février 2010 - 11:21 .

[Sarielle]

MandatoryDenial1 wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

I don't understand people who killed their characters and still want to play them after they're dead. What part of 'ultimate sacrifice' did you not understand?

Good question Maria, I can't speak for others and won't attempt to.  Let me instead enlighten you as to what I am thinking.  First off I completely understand the concept of sacrifice having dealt with it in real life.  It has nothing to do with that understanding just so you know.  What it has to do with is disappointment that the ending hinted to in the epilogue for DA: O isn't available to us.  I guess for me I got my hopes up that it would be when DA: A was released with the statement that DA:A  would be "fully compatible" with your Dragon Age playthrough.  Maybe its just me Maria, but it doesn't look to compatible from where I am sitting.

Understand now?!?

Uh...so you expected it to continue the story of DA:O, but have you miraculously NOT be dead? I'm confused as to how that would make any sense at all, I suppose.

[RangerSG]

MandatoryDenial1 wrote...

honestly right now I am on the fence with this expansion. I loved DA:O, but what is coming out in these rumors/speculation right now has me scratching my head. I don't want to play a new orlesian Grey Warden, I want to continue my character. Yes my choice was to sacrifice, but in all honesty that ending sure made it seem like the character was being brought back and the story was about to continue. Now to find out it isn't is a disappointment. To find out the returning character is Oghren instead of Leilana for instance is another major disappointment since I never really could stomach Oghren/Sten. I didn't find either compelling or frankly worth my time (other than getting their buff).

How did that ending make it seem like the character was being brought back? It was clear that your character was dead, dead, dead. Your SOUL was destroyed, for crying out loud. They took you back to Weisshaupt to be buried, what more 'dead' do you want? Would it have been necessary to be William Wallaced to figure out you weren't coming back if you took the Sacrifice?

As for the other "speculations" they're just that. We don't know anything until the game is released or official word is given by Bioware. And some people will always love to stir up nonsense on the forum just like some people will love to play the fanboy. If these "rumor" threads are putting you in a tizzy, do yourself a favor and stay away from them, because I'd be surprised if 1 in 5 of these "rumors" comes out close to fact anyway.

[Sandtigress]

MandatoryDenial1 wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

I don't understand people who killed their characters and still want to play them after they're dead. What part of 'ultimate sacrifice' did you not understand?

Good question Maria, I can't speak for others and won't attempt to.  Let me instead enlighten you as to what I am thinking.  First off I completely understand the concept of sacrifice having dealt with it in real life.  It has nothing to do with that understanding just so you know.  What it has to do with is disappointment that the ending hinted to in the epilogue for DA: O isn't available to us.  I guess for me I got my hopes up that it would be when DA: A was released with the statement that DA:A  would be "fully compatible" with your Dragon Age playthrough.  Maybe its just me Maria, but it doesn't look to compatible from where I am sitting.

Understand now?!?

There is still the possibility that DA:A wil play off the decisions made in your DA:O game, even if you start with an Orlesian Warden.  That was the old idea, I know its been tabled as uncertain now, but I don't think there's ever been a sure statement denying this, as of yet, unless I missed it.

That having been said, part of playing off the decisions made in DA:O would include having sacrificed yourself.  There's really no getting around this, if you want to keep your ending.

There is, of course, a way around this, and that is to load a pre-final confrontation save file.  I'm not sure what the game would read for certain decisions then, but there are decisions that would likely have already been made (Dark Promise, maybe Landsmeet decisions) that could possibly import.

Perhaps the confusion in our OP's mind is arising from the post-epilogue save, which chronologically takes place PRIOR to the final confrontation, which is why your character can still be alive even though you sacrificed yourself.  But this save is only to allow future DLC to be played, and includes the information that you sacrificed yourself.

[MandatoryDenial1]

RangerSG wrote...
If these "rumor" threads are putting you in a tizzy, do yourself a favor and stay away from them, because I'd be surprised if 1 in 5 of these "rumors" comes out close to fact anyway.

Point taken, your very right here. 

[TuringPoint]

If I had made the ultimate sacrifice, I wouldn't want it cheapened by being magically brought back to life...

[joey_mork84]

MandatoryDenial1 wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

I don't understand people who killed their characters and still want to play them after they're dead. What part of 'ultimate sacrifice' did you not understand?

Good question Maria, I can't speak for others and won't attempt to.  Let me instead enlighten you as to what I am thinking.  First off I completely understand the concept of sacrifice having dealt with it in real life.  It has nothing to do with that understanding just so you know.  What it has to do with is disappointment that the ending hinted to in the epilogue for DA: O isn't available to us.  I guess for me I got my hopes up that it would be when DA: A was released with the statement that DA:A  would be "fully compatible" with your Dragon Age playthrough.  Maybe its just me Maria, but it doesn't look to compatible from where I am sitting.

Understand now?!?

You remind me of another Forumite (Fumbleumble) who posts threads and then proceeds to bash on anyone with any kind of input. Why do you guys bother posting?... Just curious..

[joey_mork84]

Alocormin wrote...

If I had made the ultimate sacrifice, I wouldn't want it cheapened by being magically brought back to life...

I totally agree.. That would take away the significance of the decision. Just my opinion.

[Mass Fraud]

Sandtigress wrote...

MandatoryDenial1 wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

I don't understand people who killed their characters and still want to play them after they're dead. What part of 'ultimate sacrifice' did you not understand?

Good question Maria, I can't speak for others and won't attempt to.  Let me instead enlighten you as to what I am thinking.  First off I completely understand the concept of sacrifice having dealt with it in real life.  It has nothing to do with that understanding just so you know.  What it has to do with is disappointment that the ending hinted to in the epilogue for DA: O isn't available to us.  I guess for me I got my hopes up that it would be when DA: A was released with the statement that DA:A  would be "fully compatible" with your Dragon Age playthrough.  Maybe its just me Maria, but it doesn't look to compatible from where I am sitting.

Understand now?!?

There is still the possibility that DA:A wil play off the decisions made in your DA:O game, even if you start with an Orlesian Warden.  That was the old idea, I know its been tabled as uncertain now, but I don't think there's ever been a sure statement denying this, as of yet, unless I missed it.

That having been said, part of playing off the decisions made in DA:O would include having sacrificed yourself.  There's really no getting around this, if you want to keep your ending.

There is, of course, a way around this, and that is to load a pre-final confrontation save file.  I'm not sure what the game would read for certain decisions then, but there are decisions that would likely have already been made (Dark Promise, maybe Landsmeet decisions) that could possibly import.

Perhaps the confusion in our OP's mind is arising from the post-epilogue save, which chronologically takes place PRIOR to the final confrontation, which is why your character can still be alive even though you sacrificed yourself.  But this save is only to allow future DLC to be played, and includes the information that you sacrificed yourself.

Did you even read my orginal post, how am I the one whos confused when you apperently don't even know what I takling about.
I know exactly whats going to happen, I was only stating that I wish the Orlesian Warden had it's own orgin story and not just a continuation from your sacrificed warden at the end of DA Origins.

[Ladybright]

To get back on topic --



So we know that the Orlesian Warden does not come with an actual playable origin story. What exactly does it come with, do you s'pose? A paragraph of background info? A small/large cutscene? Some vague dialogue references to Orlais?

[Viliny]

So this isn't... continuation as much as it is a sidestep from the main story?

[ev0k3r]

Viliny wrote...

So this isn't... continuation as much as it is a sidestep from the main story?

It's just a bunch of DLC content they put together and release as a retail game! What was Ostagar? Answer that and you got your reply!

On topic, I read somewhere that there will be an origin story for the Grey Warden and knowing Bioware I am sure it will be as good as the other origin stories... the game is actually called Origins! 

[Viliny]

I never played ostagar, totally forgot that exists... but i intended to get all the content for Dragon age at some point :/