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[Bullets McDeath]

I'm not trying to condescend or embarass you. You do a pretty good job of making yourself a jackass so I'll leave you to what you do best. Just remember what I said: You're not gonna hear sh*t until they announce it. So, when that happens, know what wherever I am, I'm saying "I told you so".



Have fun crusading against the cold, corporate machine for the right to spend 5 $. If you're such an activist, Fex, perhaps you should find a real cause to devote all this energy to.

[Fexelea]

outlaworacle wrote...

I'm not trying to condescend or embarass you. You do a pretty good job of making yourself a jackass so I'll leave you to what you do best. Just remember what I said: You're not gonna hear sh*t until they announce it. So, when that happens, know what wherever I am, I'm saying "I told you so".

Have fun crusading against the cold, corporate machine for the right to spend 5 $. If you're such an activist, Fex, perhaps you should find a real cause to devote all this energy to.

If you were trying to condescend or embarass me, you would have failed, so I suppose it is good you weren't.

I will not remember what you said. It reads like white noise to me.

I am not crusading against anything so I suppose I won't be having fun. Your assessment of me as an activist and your assumptions regarding what I devote my energy to are both irrelevant and innacurate.

[Bullets McDeath]

Right, OK. Well have fun demanding answers from a company as if it were your employee and they actually had any responsibility to address your questions. Just make sure to ALSO have fun ignoring the fact that all the information you need or ever going to get has already been given to you. Really, it's your fun I am most concerned about, as you can see.

[Myusha]

It's called communication. There are accusations against Bioware on several different threads yet they do not respond. Inaction IS proving to be a bad course.

[Fexelea]

outlaworacle wrote...

Right, OK. Well have fun demanding answers from a company as if it were your employee and they actually had any responsibility to address your questions. Just make sure to ALSO have fun ignoring the fact that all the information you need or ever going to get has already been given to you. Really, it's your fun I am most concerned about, as you can see.

I am not demanding answers from a company as if it were my employee, so I will not be having fun doing that.

I am asking for information as a customer. A profitable customer at that because I buy more than the average customer and I am a brand loyalist. So from a marketing perspective it is in Bioware's interest to answer my and other consumer's questions. It is, however, not your place to determine what the relationship between a company and its customers groupings should be.

I am not ignoring any information given so I will not have fun doing that either.

Your assessment of what information is enough to satisfy my needs as a customer is irrelevant and innacurate.

[Bullets McDeath]

No, your needs as a consumer are absolutely ludicrous. You also seem to think you are more "special" than other customers, and as such deserve answers to these meaningless questions of yours. So basically, you're out of your damn mind. Naturally, you'll disagree, Fex. But that's because you're OBVIOUSLY INSANE, so what the hell would you know?



Again: There will be one answer. It will be the release date. They'll announce it when they know. Until then, you won't hear anything.



That you think you should is a symptom of your obvious madness.

[Strykzilla]

Yes no pc or xbox player complained when rto was fuc••• at release take a lesson from their patience and silence. Takes real balls to talk sh•• to the lowly ps3 minority.

[Myusha]

outlaw. You seem them as pointless, because you believe the answer provided suffices to YOU. To OTHERS it may not. There's also something called REASSURANCE, that Bioware can provide.

[tiamat2400]

I'm not all that excited about RtO and Awakening anymore I might get it when and if it comes out (at this point shouldn't presume anything) know What is certain is their reputation in this regard is in the garbage do primarily to lack of communication amongst several things but that is the easiest thing to fix. Maybe they don't care about the loss of reputation or even think it won't last businesses make that mistake all the time. Assuming Bioware can't be guilty of such a mistake is false. Also assuming it is guilty of this is false as well but given the evidence so far I'm more inclined to believe the first. Anyways it's not hard to imagine that some form of group think went on in regards to this situation as such things are common place in groups and organizations. Think financial collapse of 2008.



The point being it has cost them their reputation amongst the PS3 community and to a lesser extent other communities who has experienced similar problems to a lesser extent. Which is why that big announcement was made about how they were going to do a better job of communicating and then they opened up an announcement thread and forgot/ignored the PS3? Why my guess is the communication issue is a corporate culture issue. It should have been the easiest thing to address but the reality is it is really hard to change a culture. That's why I'm not so worried that it's taking so long. Processes improve more easily then changing a culture which has created all these issues. If you are another user X box PC Mac whatever I think you should be concerned about this because of the same attitudes that led to this PS3 can and have affected you.



So here's the reality they have took a major reputation hit (Sony does to but there success is far less tied to a single game). What this means to them is even if we all brought RtO and got Awakening the fact is people will remember and the next bioware game that comes out we will be less likely to buy when stacked against other competing games. The example of Mass Effect comes to mind. I don't have a 360 and my PC isn't great but I toyed with the idea of buying it and its sequal when I have the system to play it on. I can say for certain that will absolutely not happen now. They have really hurt them with there newer PS3 market.



I can say I'm not angry I'm slightly disappointed which means I still care a little I guess I'm sure someone will find a way to take issue.

[Fexelea]

outlaworacle wrote...

No, your needs as a consumer are absolutely ludicrous. You also seem to think you are more "special" than other customers, and as such deserve answers to these meaningless questions of yours. So basically, you're out of your damn mind. Naturally, you'll disagree, Fex. But that's because you're OBVIOUSLY INSANE, so what the hell would you know?

Again: There will be one answer. It will be the release date. They'll announce it when they know. Until then, you won't hear anything.

That you think you should is a symptom of your obvious madness.

Your attempts to question my psychological health are irrelevant and absurd, backed by fallacious reasoning.

Your interpretation of what the questions I and others have posed are is innacurate.

Your assumption that I consider myself " more special" is innacurate and irrelevant.

Please stop trolling.

[NightmarezAbound]

atomicbunny wrote...

What were we waiting on again? I was told there was cake here!

the cake is a lie

[Strykzilla]

I like crazy chicks @@

[AngryFrozenWater]

Fexelea wrote...

outlaworacle wrote...

No, your needs as a consumer are absolutely ludicrous. You also seem to think you are more "special" than other customers, and as such deserve answers to these meaningless questions of yours. So basically, you're out of your damn mind. Naturally, you'll disagree, Fex. But that's because you're OBVIOUSLY INSANE, so what the hell would you know?

Again: There will be one answer. It will be the release date. They'll announce it when they know. Until then, you won't hear anything.

That you think you should is a symptom of your obvious madness.

Your attempts to question my psychological health are irrelevant and absurd, backed by fallacious reasoning.

Your interpretation of what the questions I and others have posed are is innacurate.

Your assumption that I consider myself " more special" is innacurate and irrelevant.

Please stop trolling.

Don't worry, Fexelea... You don't have to defend yourself. You gave solid arguments. All posters like these want is to trick you into a defense mode in the hope that this will make their own "arguments" appear more valid. Of course it doesn't work that way.

[Fexelea]

^

I shall bow to the wisdom of the ages.

[AngryFrozenWater]

Fexelea wrote...

^
I shall bow to the wisdom of the ages.

Haha. Is that a compliment?

/me feels old.

[Myusha]

Seeing as this thread has either become arguments between different parties of who's at fault, or crzyness, I'd prefer crazyness to a tiresome argument .



So does anyone know how to equip the dirty pantaloons Dog gives you? I've tried for hours!

[NightmarezAbound]

Myusha wrote...

Seeing as this thread has either become arguments between different parties of who's at fault, or crzyness, I'd prefer crazyness to a tiresome argument .

So does anyone know how to equip the dirty pantaloons Dog gives you? I've tried for hours!

since they're a gift am thinking give them to "someone" whose  undergarments get ruined after that happens.

Modifié par NightmarezAbound, 22 février 2010 - 01:26 .

[Myusha]

But they're dirty....I guess they can't be stinkier. then what usually goes in them...

[Eurypterid]

Outlaworacle, personal attacks are contrary to the Rules of Conduct. If you cannot discussn the issues here without resorting to insults, then please move along to a different thread or step away from the keyboard and reconsider your posts before clicking the Submit button.

[Bullets McDeath]

They weren't insults. It's an assessment of her argument. It's insane.

[Fexelea]

outlaworacle wrote...

They weren't insults. It's an assessment of her argument. It's insane.

You did not assess my argument at all.

You stated that *I* was insane. Beyond the fact that such ad-hominems do nothing to support your fallacious reasoning, your statement has nothing to do with my argument.

[Fexelea]

@AngryFrozenWater

It was a compliment! Don't feel old. Remember it is not about how old you are but how young you feel! lol

[Faith2010]

Just aquick comment RTO has now been release for two weeks for XBOX and PC and still no news on date for PS3 what the delay please??????????????

[Bullets McDeath]

Strykzilla...

Yes no pc or xbox player complained when rto was fuc••• at release take a lesson from their patience and silence. Takes real balls to talk sh•• to the lowly ps3 minority.

Of couse they did. I was in those threads too, telling people not to get worked up and that we'll know when we know and throwing a fit about it isn't going to do anything. It was the exact same situation: we'll know when it is out. Hell, if the 360 release is any indication, that's not always a safe bet either.

Myusha...

outlaw. You seem them as pointless, because you believe the answer provided suffices to YOU. To OTHERS it may not. There's also something called REASSURANCE, that Bioware can provide.

Like I said above, I was in the same boat when it was delayed on my platform. Hell, even though the PC release was ready and they held back until the 360 issues were solved, I wasn't throwing a tantrum to Bioware. It was honest advice. The simple truth is this: you can keep posting in this thread and getting worked up, or you can not. It will not affect the release date of PS3RtO or cause developers to waste their time "reassuring" people.

Fex...

Your attempts to question my psychological health are irrelevant and absurd, backed by fallacious reasoning.

Your interpretation of what the questions I and others have posed are is innacurate.

Your assumption that I consider myself " more special" is innacurate and irrelevant.

Please stop trolling.

Fex, you described yourself as a special consumer because you're a "brand loyalist" and "buy more than the average consumer". That seems to be the root of this issue, that you think somehow you deserve some kind of a response, more than the one that is given. Most people, who realize they are not "special" consumers, eventually find something better to do and just walk away.

Sort of like I'm doing now.

Modifié par outlaworacle, 22 février 2010 - 01:53 .

[Woolywoo]

meh.

Modifié par Woolywoo, 22 février 2010 - 01:54 .