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[DarkSmart]

I'd definitely take the Widow as I perfer slow firing, hard hitting sniper rifles. Besides, there are not many situations where an AR is really more useful than the tempest SMG.

[Jaekahn]

tonnactus wrote...

I tried out the widow.Good against armored enemies,but suck against enemies with strong shields like geth hunters.

In order to use the Widow for its full potential, save your ammo. Use powers such as Incinerate or a Squad mate's overload to remove barriers and shields. When they are vulnerable or when they just have armor on, use your Widow to execute the kill. That way you're not wasting your ammo on the shield, considering that you have a better chance of getting a one shot kill with the Widow, rather then using Incinerate or trying to shoot with a hand cannon from the other side of the map.

[Darnalak]

eh, Non elite mobs with shields generally fall to a Widow Headshot if you have heavy Disruptor Ammo running. (Heavy Non Elite mobs have more shields/health and generally don't die with just 1 hit). That being said, Jaekahn's right about ammo conservation. Missing with the Widow is costly.

[sandman7431]

DarkSmart wrote...

I'd definitely take the Widow as I perfer slow firing, hard hitting sniper rifles. Besides, there are not many situations where an AR is really more useful than the tempest SMG.

Actually there are not many situations where the assault rifle is not more useful than the smg.  It does more damage, is more accurate and has better range.  It is undoubtedly a superior weapon but for an infiltrator to pass up the widow is sacrilege.  The tempest is a decent enough weapon to fill in the blanks with.

[Jaekahn]

sandman7431 wrote...

DarkSmart wrote...

I'd definitely take the Widow as I perfer slow firing, hard hitting sniper rifles. Besides, there are not many situations where an AR is really more useful than the tempest SMG.

Actually there are not many situations where the assault rifle is not more useful than the smg.  It does more damage, is more accurate and has better range.  It is undoubtedly a superior weapon but for an infiltrator to pass up the widow is sacrilege.  The tempest is a decent enough weapon to fill in the blanks with.

Aye, the Widow is the prize for Infiltrators and Soldiers. However, it's not the only effective sniper rifle. Viper, for one, is very deadly and comes handy for CQC style players as I have recently posted. If you use the Viper and pick an assault rifle, then you have three rapid fire weapons from close, to middle, to long range, allowing you to cover every portion of the battlefield with ease. I think that is quite effective for Agents and CQC

[sandman7431]

Jaekahn wrote...

sandman7431 wrote...

DarkSmart wrote...

I'd definitely take the Widow as I perfer slow firing, hard hitting sniper rifles. Besides, there are not many situations where an AR is really more useful than the tempest SMG.

Actually there are not many situations where the assault rifle is not more useful than the smg.  It does more damage, is more accurate and has better range.  It is undoubtedly a superior weapon but for an infiltrator to pass up the widow is sacrilege.  The tempest is a decent enough weapon to fill in the blanks with.

Aye, the Widow is the prize for Infiltrators and Soldiers. However, it's not the only effective sniper rifle. Viper, for one, is very deadly and comes handy for CQC style players as I have recently posted. If you use the Viper and pick an assault rifle, then you have three rapid fire weapons from close, to middle, to long range, allowing you to cover every portion of the battlefield with ease. I think that is quite effective for Agents and CQC

I agree.  I actually created alternate saves at the collector ship with my infiltrator and tried out both an AR build and a widow build.  Playing the infiltrator at close quarters is interesting but for me, it's not as fun.  I find it a bit forced and gimmicky.  If you like to rub shoulders with your enemies, I think the Vanguard is the ideal choice.  Also I prefer to do my infiltrator CQC with the hand cannon.  I pick enemies off with the widow from a distance and occasionally mix it up by getting really aggressive with assassination cloak at point blank range with the hand cannon.  I like to play the infiltrator as a killer; not a fighter.

The soldier is obviously the ideal AR class and also is the ideal viper class due to adrenaline rush.  If you take a CQC infiltrator with an assault rifle, you are basically inferior to the soldier on the battlefield.  The soldier can have the viper and the LMG with massive damage bonuses from adrenaline rushing while the CQC infiltrator uses the vindicator and viper minus the damage bonus.  The widow makes the infiltrator special as I really believe the infiltrator uses this weapon better than the soldier.

If you don't like the LMG and want to use the vindicator, I actually think the vanguard is a great choice.  Unlike the Widow and the LMG in their respective categories, the Claymore is not clearly the best shotgun.  Its limitations when it comes to crowd control and margin for error mitigate its strengths.  I like to use the Eviscerator or the Scimitar and take the vindicator.  This really turns the vanguard into a dominant mid to close range fighter.  I don't like taking the sniper rifle for the vanguard because it lacks the infiltrator's passive slowdown or cloak damage bonus and also lacks the soldier's adrenaline rush bonuses.  The vanguard is not a sniper.  The AR really fills in the blanks for the vanguard when he finds himself at mid ranges before or after a charge.

[DarkSmart]

sandman7431 wrote...

DarkSmart wrote...

I'd definitely take the Widow as I perfer slow firing, hard hitting sniper rifles. Besides, there are not many situations where an AR is really more useful than the tempest SMG.

Actually there are not many situations where the assault rifle is not more useful than the smg.  It does more damage, is more accurate and has better range.  It is undoubtedly a superior weapon but for an infiltrator to pass up the widow is sacrilege.  The tempest is a decent enough weapon to fill in the blanks with.

It may be superior, but that's nothing I'd notice. At close quarters, the tempest is even stronger than the ARs, for long ranges, I have my sniper rifle, only at medium range, ARs excel. Besides, there is only one good AR available to an infiltrator: the geth rifle. The other two ARs are crap.

[HighlighterFTW]

What everyone said, but I think more importantly, you're given the option to shoot people with an anti-materiel weapon. Do you really need any more justification?

[Andaius20]

Heavy disruptor ammo combined with the widow means you can really take out shields too.

[Cloaking_Thane]

Infiltrator= Widow



Soldier is a toss up, I'm gonna choose the revenant b/c I've done 2 widow infiltrators already

[Kayback]

Goodskees wrote...

Sturmwulfe wrote...

Occams Razor 17 wrote...

Sturmwulfe wrote...

On my first play through on Veteran, I picked the Assault Rifle because you can't always keep the enemy at range and if you run out of sniper rounds, you need something to fall back on with a bit more punch and versatility than a sniper rifle, especially if dealing with a lot of mid-ranged opponents. I guess I took the class description of 'Tech-savvy soldier' to heart.

On my second playthrough, Insanity, I am definitely grabbing the Widow because I was allowed to carry the Assault rifle with me the second time around.

If I'm reading your post correctly, you're doing NG+.  You don't get to pick another bonus/weapon or swap bonus/weapon on NG+.  Whatever you got on the first run-through is what you're stuck with.

Oh, jeez, I guess I misunderstood the end game lol. I guess I'm stuck with my choice now.

Don't feel too bad man, I picked the freaking shotgun like a dumb ***.

Bwahahaha I did one WORSE. I already knew you could only get one, even on multiple play throughs. But I didn't realise it was one for ever, I thought it would simply replace the AR the next time round with the SR. I thought it meant you just couldn't have all three at once, not one for ever!

Oh well.

[Fritz3D]

The Widow is by far the most satisfying weapon an Infiltrator can have. I play the game for fun and the Widow just scores so high at that. Plus with a Widow and Cain your character looks amazing.

[weirdscientist]

I dunno, I just love the viper so much. An infiltrator with a vindicator and viper is rather beastly, if you ask me. Then again, I'm a vanguard at heart. I'm too impatient to one shot people from a distance while my squaddies get to have all the fun of getting up close and personal

[Athenau]

You guys are underestimating the tempest. It out-dps's the Avenger/Geth Pulse Rifle/Collector Assault rifle, at the cost of some long range accuracy. In close quarters it can go toe to toe with the Vindicator without that weapon's horrible ammo issues.



Picking an assault rifle for the infiltrator is a mistake, IMO. The tempest fills that role beautifully.

[Bill Hooks]

I'm of two minds:



1.) I like sniper rifles and all that, but the main reason I picked infiltrator was because I love turning invisible, not because I love headshotting people. It's a single player game, if you want to turn invisible and shoot dudes with an assault rifle it's not like you're letting anybody down.



2.) Notwithstanding all that, I still always pick the Widow.

[Ginger Kat]

I'm getting pretty close to this point on my Infiltrator too.  With my 'new' ME2 Adept I picked Assault Rifle & never looked back.

I've been holding back, trying to decide what to pick for my ME1 Infiltrator, the AR for an additional weapon & additional damage or 'The Widow'.

I originally changed the class when importing, from ME1 Infiltrator to ME2 Engineer, but after a couple of levels I figured she'd done ME1 as an Infiltrator & I should stay true to her class (wasn't impressed with ME1 Infiltrator) despite the 'handicaps' I suffered in ME1 & restarted as an Infiltrator.  She is now level 17 & all I can say is 'wow!'    ME2 Infiltrator is such a pleasure to play, more so than my Adept & I never thought I would say that. ME2 Infiltrator actually plays like an 'Infiltrator', the Cloak really is a major part.   I hated sniping in ME1, the Sniper Rifle was such a pain, wobbling all over the place.

So, back to my point.  I'm approaching this point now, the Collector Ship & choice & have deliberately been holding back, simply because I had no idea what I should pick.  Widow or AR.

I picked up the Viper & stuck with it to 'try out' during Thane's recruitment & have to say was majorly disappointed in it, I recall someone describing it as 'an AR with a Scope' & I fully agree.  I have gone back to the Mantis.  So, having read this thread I have decided, as some others have stated, I would be a fool not to choose Widow.
I'm not a Close Quarter Combatant, so the Sniper Rifle suits my Infiltrator playstyle.

Many thanks to the OP for posting a Thread with the very question I was beating myself trying to decide & to the many posters who gave their own opinions.

[Arde5643]

Anyone's first run with the infiltrator should always go with the widow - it's the class the weapon was built for.

After that,for 2nd or 3rd playthroughs, the infiltrator can then try out the shotgun and assault rifle for very different playstyles.

[Tlazolteotl]

Widow is awesome. I like the viper too ... and depending on the mission I might take it instead.

After all, tempest & carnifex are hardly crap weapons. I also played a (fail) vanguard with a viper. Noscope at point blank, use it like a shotgun inbetween charge spam.

[Vilanova]

This sucks. It would have made more sense if you picked the AR you would also pick up the widow.

I dont get it and I was hoping to get it in my NG+

[thisisme8]

I like how big and awesome the Widow is, but the Viper fits my Infiltrator better. I still took the Widow anyway, but I don't use it.

[Vilanova]

thisisme8 wrote...

I like how big and awesome the Widow is, but the Viper fits my Infiltrator better. I still took the Widow anyway, but I don't use it.

same here.

When I use the viper, I line the headshots with warp ammo and it just takes my seconds to decamate a whole crowd!
Single shot is fine but I like both variety and versatility.

[thisisme8]

I also like Cryo Ammo on the Viper. Call me crazy and DPS and whatever, I don't care. Makes life easier for me when dealing with Krogans and what-not on insanity since you can't have your head out of cover too long. Snipe, freeze, move in for the kill.

[Firmijn]

the widow. I would marry the damn rifle

[edgar95]

anyone knows if u can have assault rifles as an infiltrator or engineer??

[swk3000]

1. This thread is over a month old.



2. The answer to your question is that yes, an Infiltrator or an Engineer can get Assault Rifles.



3. The answer to the OP is now Widow, with the Locust SMG from the Kasumi DLC.