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aaniadyen

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The time it takes to get from Orzammar to the Circle Tower (according to the Dwarf girl who wants to become an apprentice). So...how does it make any sense that (assuming you side with Harrowmont) Bahlen forces a vote two days after you kill Jarvia? Are we to believe that we travel through the deep roads, killing our way to Branka in less than two days when it takes two weeks and four days to simply travel to the Circle Tower with no anticipated fighting? The Thaigs can't possibly be so close together that you can travel through two of them and get to a third in ~2 days. That's ridiculous.

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Clearly a dwarven day is actually two weeks and five days, and it only takes an estimated one and three-quarters dwarven days to get through the Deep Roads.



So certainly you can get back in time before the voting tak... More likely suspension of disbelief with the "two days" supposed to build up tension or something and rather.

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Are you talking about an African or European Swallow?



I kid, but she could be talking about on foot, and not on horse.

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Siradix wrote...

Are you talking about an African or European Swallow?

I kid, but she could be talking about on foot, and not on horse.


First off...I'm pretty sure you don't travel on horseback in DA:O. Second, it wouldn't matter, because even if she was talking about walking distance...you don't have mounts to ride in the deep roads either, so they'd be equal.

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Group Theory wrote...

Clearly a dwarven day is actually two weeks and five days, and it only takes an estimated one and three-quarters dwarven days to get through the Deep Roads.

So certainly you can get back in time before the voting tak... More likely suspension of disbelief with the "two days" supposed to build up tension or something and rather.


=P Beat at my own game. Alright. I get your point. I guess I'm nitpicking pretty hard here.

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aaniadyen wrote...

Siradix wrote...

Are you talking about an African or European Swallow?

I kid, but she could be talking about on foot, and not on horse.


First off...I'm pretty sure you don't travel on horseback in DA:O. Second, it wouldn't matter, because even if she was talking about walking distance...you don't have mounts to ride in the deep roads either, so they'd be equal.


Geez I hate when people get so antsy about small technicalities and not get sarcasm. It's just a game, and there's bound to be a conflict or two in the game. So next time you see her ignore her and you won't have the worry about it.

If you don't want to do that then think to yourself, would a dwarven girl from Orzammar, who still belongs to a caste, really know how long it would take to get to a tower in the middle of a lake on the surface?

Modifié par Siradix, 10 février 2010 - 05:22 .


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It is best to ignore all references of time in the game. It's too inconsistent if you actually try to track it.

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ejoslin wrote...

It is best to ignore all references of time in the game. It's too inconsistent if you actually try to track it.


indeed expecially if you play as a dwarf and go to Orzammar straight out of lothering!

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According to the map of Ferelden, the length from Orzammar to the Circle tower is 162 mile. There and back would be 324. 324/18 = 18 miles per day.

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Maria Caliban wrote...

According to the map of Ferelden, the length from Orzammar to the Circle tower is 162 mile. There and back would be 324. 324/18 = 18 miles per day.


Whoopie, she was right, like it really matters at this point. You still haven't answered his question.

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aaniadyen wrote...

Siradix wrote...

Are you talking about an African or European Swallow?

I kid, but she could be talking about on foot, and not on horse.


First off...I'm pretty sure you don't travel on horseback in DA:O. Second, it wouldn't matter, because even if she was talking about walking distance...you don't have mounts to ride in the deep roads either, so they'd be equal.


Wow someone missed the joke. Now go watch Monty Python and the Holy Grail and have a good laugh.

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Siradix wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

According to the map of Ferelden, the length from Orzammar to the Circle tower is 162 mile. There and back would be 324. 324/18 = 18 miles per day.


Whoopie, she was right...


Who was right? About what?

Your response seems vaguely hostile and I'm not sure what prompted it.

You still haven't answered his question.


I'm not sure what the original poster is referring to. If there's a plot 'time limit' to traveling the Deep Roads, I've forgotten it, which suggests it didn't strike me as important at the time.

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 10 février 2010 - 07:05 .


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It'd be funny if Bio did program real time limits into the quests. The board would be filled with hate posts. Mask of the Betrayer put in an easy to manage Spirit curse that put a little bit of time pressure on the game and the reaction was vitriolic.

Leave the doors wide open and nitpickers enter complaining about inaccurate dialog.

Just can't win.

Modifié par metatheurgist, 10 février 2010 - 07:45 .


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Each 'area transition' in the deep roads is actually a warp gate that moves you to the next location but also back in time to the point that you entered the current location.



If you repeat an area and proceed through the area quickly enough, you can see your original party departing just as you enter the room. Be ready to use cone of cold on them, and you can actually prevent them from going through the 'area transition' in the first place - thus causing all of the darkspawn you killed to respawn.

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aaniadyen wrote...

The Thaigs can't possibly be so close together that you can travel through two of them and get to a third in ~2 days. That's ridiculous.


Why is that so ridiculous exactly? The thaig locations are likely based on rich mineral deposits, which tend to be close together.

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Why couldn't they be close together?

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Two weeks, four days for a dwarf most likely moving at a slow walk stopping for meals and camping at night fall. The slowest you're going in the Deep Roads is a quick march, eating on the run, and resting only when necessary for as long as necessary. Also if you're human or elf 1 step is like 2 dwarf steps so you cut the time in half.



Bann Teagan says you can make it from Redcliffe to the Circle in 1 day and that trip requires going around the lake, practically passing Orzammar (though I don't see why you couldn't make the faster trip of hopping in a boat and crossing the lake).



Now admittedly 2 days to go into the Deep Roads, make it to where you need to go, and come back does require some suspension of disbelief but it's not unreasonable.

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Actually, that one day IS crossing the lake. I don't know why the map animation is going AROUND it.

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Sialater wrote...

Actually, that one day IS crossing the lake. I don't know why the map animation is going AROUND it.


Makes more sense but begs the question, how big is that lake and how slow is our boat.

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Looks like the distance between Chicago and Milwaukee on Lake Michigan here in the States. But I'm not sure of the scale on the map I downloaded.

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DPSSOC wrote...

Sialater wrote...

Actually, that one day IS crossing the lake. I don't know why the map animation is going AROUND it.


Makes more sense but begs the question, how big is that lake and how slow is our boat.


I am now starting to sing "Row Row Row your boat gently down the stream....."

Yes running to the tower also stumped me I was l like, "Okay Tegann I will try to be quick, but this is going to be a long marathon run O_O. Good luck with keeping the demon possed kid under control."

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Dwarven legs are shorter and fueled by ale. Makes for a happy meander. ;)

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Now I have the weird image of Sten carrying Oghren on his shoulders, piggy-back style, since his stubby little legs would have trouble keeping up. Someone must draw this.

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No, on his shoulders. Legs are too short for piggy back.

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pudi0072000 wrote...

Now I have the weird image of Sten carrying Oghren on his shoulders, piggy-back style, since his stubby little legs would have trouble keeping up. Someone must draw this.


:D  Or in one of those baby backpacks with the arms and legs sticking out :P haha!