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[geertmans]

Original post:

So i've been playing ME 1 since it's release and everything worked, the sound broke somewhat with the 1.01 patch but that got fixed with the 1.02 patch.

I've finished the game for the gazillionth time last week (already had ME 2 installed) the game ran superb. A couple of days ago I tried to reinstall ME 2, but in the process uninstalled ME 1 by accident (it's known issue i see) So I reinstalled ME 1 too with the two DLC parts and patch.

After reading some interesting stories about ME 1 about scanning planets with Mako and interesting sub-missions i've seem to have missed I tried to play this morning. To my surprise the game ran with an inconsistent framerate sometimes (in the citadel for instance) dropping to 5 fps. After 5 minutes or so my computer instandly shuts itself down and when I power back up it gives me the CPU overheated message.

ME 2 and other games still run fine.

Anyway here are my specs but since the problem occured sometime between the last couple of days I don't think its relevent.


Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit
Intel Core 2 Due E8600
4 Gb of DDR2 Ram
GeForce 295GTX

Might it be the forgetting of the first ME1 patch and directly installing 1.02? As noted before I did install the two DLC packages. (I ran ME 1 After i installed ME2 for the first time, so I don't think its because of ME2) Might it be an error in all the ME 2 DLC i downloaded yesterday? Seeing as the uninstaller from ME2 affected ME1 I wouldn't be surprised but that seems unlikely.

EDIT1: So it seems like I'm not the only one with this problem:

http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/106/index/755180
http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/106/index/849285
http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/106/index/806273

Still haven't been able to fix it though. Disabling one CPU core does seem to improve the fps, but still not as good as before...

EDIT2: So it was dust in the CPU heatsink, but even after cleaning I don't get the same FPS as I used to some time ago, not the problem with ME2 and other games though.


EDIT3:

Read the original post for the beginning. I found the solution to it,
though I'm still not sure wether it is a personal hardware thing, or a software
thing (my guess is that it has something to do with the anti-aliasing).

Anyway,
after I installed my copy of Mass Effect 2 some weeks ago I renamed
MassEffect2.exe to ut3.exe to have AA enabled. Today I tried installing
the SLI update Nvidia offered for Mass Effect 2 so that the workaround was
no longer needed. The AA now worked without the workaround but to my surprise the framerate of ME2 now also dropped to about 18 fps, same as ME1. I still don't know why SLI isn't working for me, even after the Nvidia fix, (I get like 60 fps, and in rare occasions 40 fps with SLI off, even with aa enabled) but it got me thinking. Maybe renaming the ME1 executable to ut3.exe will do the same FPS improvement for ME1 as it does for ME2. And it does! I now get the same smooth FPS as I did before. I have no idea why renaming the executables to ut3.exe is affecting the FPS, but if you're having the same or similar problems as me, try it.

Modifié par geertmans, 14 février 2010 - 12:10 .

[geertmans]

someone?

[anon_04111]

You got me, I'm no tech-expert, but it looks like your system is better than mine and I'm not having any problems. I had problems with overheating once (something unrelated), but after opening up the case and cleaning out all the dust it hasn't given me any problems. Good luck on getting it fixed though.

[Herethos]

Doesn't BDtS come with patch 1.01 already? also Pinnacle Station comes with patch 1.02, the other patches you can find on the page there are standalone without the dlc's, the dlc's should have the patches already.

[geertmans]

Hm atm i can't do anything about it since i'm not at home. I'll reinstall everything including ME2 and its dlc. I'll just have to test it step by step after each dlc/patch/game. I know BDtS had the patch but I didn't about tPS. Anyway I think its unlikely that it has anything to do with skipping a patch since that seems impossible. Somehow I have the feeling its the dlc from ME2 but thats just speculation on my part. Dust in the case is present I think (not at my pc right now) but that doesn't seem to cause the problems since its not happening with other games.



About an year and a half ago, while playing BDtS my other computer crashed big time and some hours later I found out that my one Gb of my RAM suddenly broke. I think it was a hardware fault, i mean I am no tech expert either but it happened right after I installed BDtS. You can guess that I am getting a bit suspicious about ME1 breaking my hardware, even though that might sound stupid. It really makes me wonder if more people have these errors/crashes or if its just me.

[Doofus42]

If your computer shutdown because of overheating you need to deal with this issue. Messing around with software like ME1 and ME2 is akin to re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic after hitting a very large piece of ice.



Get a can on compressed air, take your computer outside, open the case, and blow out all the dust bunnies. Verify that all your fans are working, especially the fans on your CPU and GPU.



Download Prime95 and use it to verify that under 100% CPU load your temperatures are stable. You can download RealTemp to monitor them. You might also want to download Memtest86+ to verify that you memory is working properly.



Overheating will kill your computer components.

[geertmans]

Thanks for the advice. As I said before though the overheating _only_ happens with ME1. Yes there might be some dust in the case but not nearly significant enough. Furthermore, why would this happen with an older game but not with recent ones that are supposed to put even more load on the processor? Anyway, i'm not at my computer right now so i'll look into it later but i _highly_ doubt this a dust issue, i've had those before and this is very sudden and specific.

[Doofus42]

Well it is your computer. Melt it as you see fit. You may need to check your thermal grease also.

[geertmans]

UPDATE: After cleaning out my computer it does seem to have helped. So yes I agree, this would've happened anyway, should I have run an application that put a lot of pressure on my CPU (ME 1 NEVER did) in combination with the dust made the computer shut down.

After cleaning my computer however I noticed ME 1 is still running at a mere 30 to 20 fps which is way too slow for this game (notice that newer games like ME 2 and GTA IV which is more CPU based then other most games, run FINE). Also, my CPU activity drops dramatically during ME1 when I have SLI turned on, yet the frame rate becomes rather inconsistent. I'm reinstalling right now, but I still think it has something to do with either ME 2 or the ME 1 or 2 DLC.

Modifié par geertmans, 11 février 2010 - 11:57 .

[Dex1701]

Yep, software doesn't make your CPU/GPU overheat...inadequate cooling does. Your system should be able to handle being run at 100% capacity 24/7 without overheating. If it can't then your cooling isn't adequate (or you've gotten carried away with overclocking). Glad to hear you got your problem sorted.

Modifié par Dex1701, 12 février 2010 - 12:11 .

[geertmans]

Dex1701 wrote...

Yep, software doesn't make your CPU/GPU overheat...inadequate cooling does. Your system should be able to handle being run at 100% capacity 24/7 without overheating. If it can't then your cooling isn't adequate (or you've gotten carried away with overclocking). Glad to hear you got your problem sorted.

Well I'm happy to know that my hardware isn't broken, although broken CPU's tend to be rare anyway, it just leaves a slow FPS with ME 1 . This happened during the last week i'm sure, so right now I'm backtracking my installation steps.

[geertmans]

bump.