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[Wintermist]

I did ask and I got the response that as Christina Norman once said, the helmets are working as they intended. That means they do not want you to be able to toggle it, even on the standard N7 one.

I've tried modding in a toggle through the ini files but there isn't any command working even if I try to make a new one following the ME2 coding standard or by using the old ME1 code to try and do it.

So, there we have it. There won't be any helmet toggle no matter how much we want it. We can now officially drop it.

Modifié par Wintermist, 10 février 2010 - 09:58 .

[Dr. Peter Venkman]

Wintermist wrote...

We can now officially drop it.

No. We can officially demand that they add it until they 'get it'.

[Wintermist]

Dr. Peter Venkman wrote...

Wintermist wrote...

We can now officially drop it.

No. We can officially demand that they add it until they 'get it'.

I think they have noticed by now that the community really wants it though, it was only the other day I asked. I wondered why they kept locking threads about the helmet to keep just one open and why they didn't just create a thread to explain that no, they will not do it. The response was that Christina Norman had already said it is working as intended and there is no need for such a thread.

Sure it was a kick in the teeth, but they made their intentions very clear there.

Modifié par Wintermist, 10 février 2010 - 10:06 .

[Darth_Trethon]

Well the N7 armor and the components you can buy separately are fully intended to work as they do which means you are fully intended to be able to equip and unequip the helmets that you receive separately including the Dr. Pepper helmet and visors. Those work as intended so you trying to dramatize the situation by saying they didn't intend us to use them as such is just pointless bickering. The armor upgrades you gain through research work with the DLC armors and the DLC armors give much better bonuses than anything you can obtain in the game so they are great as they are. Nobody whined when you couldn't change armors in ME1 so get over yourself, wipe off your tears and move the hell on.

[bjdbwea]

Drop it? No. This is an issue, probably due to having to push the game out of the door, but that doesn't mean the paying customers have to accept it. Nor should we. The more you let "them" get away with, the worse might ME 3 again be.

[DarthReavus]

I never especially liked the notion of the helmet toggle anyway. What I think would work best in the context of ME2 would be to have the option at your armour locker whether or not to wear a helmet with all armours. So with the N7 armour (as already exists) have the option for either the N7 helmets, the various visors or no helmet. With the DLC armours have the option to wear the DLC helmet and the visors, as well as no helmet.



But definitely not a return to the old toggle system where you could magically pull a big helmet out of your arse.

[brgillespie]

Major non-issue for me. Play through once using no helmet or the combat visor if it's that important, then you can go about playing without worrying about seeing your character's face.

[Dr. Peter Venkman]

scyphozoa wrote...

you do realize that you're making demands and complaints about bonus armor. N7 is the stand alone product you bought. You're complaining about the bonus armors BDA, Terminus, Collector or Cebrerus. They are bonus. N7 armor allows for helmet to go unworn.

The complaints are even more valid against "bonus" armor, given that many people paid more money to have it.

[Darth_Trethon]

scyphozoa wrote...
I too would like to see bonus armors with no helmet, but this is hardly a big deal. N7 armor is much better than bonus armors and bonus armors are absolutely not worth complaining about or making multiple threads about, IMO.

I'm with you about the complaining part and I'm just fine with the DLC armors as they are but this is wrong. The DLC armors give much better bonuses than what you can get with the N7 armor even if you purchase all the best components it's still no match for the benefits of the DLC armors.

[tmp7704]

DarthReavus wrote...

But definitely not a return to the old toggle system where you could magically pull a big helmet out of your arse.

I liked the old toggle way precisely because you didn't have to run all way to ship locker just to switch between seeing your face in cutscenes on say, Citadel where no one really wears a helmet and having your helmet on in firefights where it looked better to have it. It's purely an appearance thing, and being able to toggle it is no more immersion breaking than Shepard able to magically get drunk through their helmet glass.

[The Capital Gaultier]

There is a no helmet setting in the armor customization screen.

[packardbell]

Regardless of all your whining it's not going to change, so please for the sake of rehashing the same old discussions - drop it.

[RampantBeaver]

I think this is one of those decisions the dev's have taken a stance on and will unlikely budge from. Perhaps they consider it beneficial to the games level of immersion. However nonsensical I or anyone else see's it I don't imagine they'll change it.

[Varenus Luckmann]

scyphozoa wrote...

you do realize that you're making demands and complaints about bonus armor. N7 is the stand alone product you bought. You're complaining about the bonus armors BDA, Terminus, Collector or Cebrerus. They are bonus. N7 armor allows for helmet to go unworn.

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I have no idea what you are talking about. Terminus, Collector's and Inferno; I paid for all of those. The fact that they don't have the same basic functionality as the N7 armor appalls me, especially since I harbor a not-so-secret hatred for the N7 armor, with "N7" in white-and-red plastered all over it like some cheap promotional sticker.

What's up with that, anyway? Why do my armors come with "N7" plastered onto them? Shepard isn't part of the Alliance Navy anymore. If his stuff is manufactured or supplied by Cerberus, a Cerberus-logo would make a lot more sense. Pure marketing bull****.

[Varenus Luckmann]

RampantBeaver wrote...

I think this is one of those decisions the dev's have taken a stance on and will unlikely budge from. Perhaps they consider it beneficial to the games level of immersion. However nonsensical I or anyone else see's it I don't imagine they'll change it.

Don't be silly. The Bioware/EA devs have no sense of immersion and if they even tried such an obvious cop-out excuse, I'd drive to their homes and smack them with a newspaper.

[Wintermist]

Varenus Luckmann wrote...

Don't be silly. The Bioware/EA devs have no sense of immersion and if they even tried such an obvious cop-out excuse, I'd drive to their homes and smack them with a newspaper.

Haha, then you better get in your car, because they're not changing it.

[Nozybidaj]

Wintermist wrote...

I did ask and I got the response that as Christina Norman once said, the helmets are working as they intended. That means they do not want you to be able to toggle it, even on the standard N7 one.

I've tried modding in a toggle through the ini files but there isn't any command working even if I try to make a new one following the ME2 coding standard or by using the old ME1 code to try and do it.

So, there we have it. There won't be any helmet toggle no matter how much we want it. We can now officially drop it.

Pretty much what I figured, seems like a really silly thing to take a hard line on.  Oh well, they are free.  I suppose I don't loose anything for never using them.  /shrug

[Srau]

Yeah, thought it was fun to kiss Liara and have a drink through the helmet.

Gotta love games that lack polish (that among many things).

[Nozybidaj]

Srau wrote...

Yeah, thought it was fun to kiss Liara and have a drink through the helmet.
Gotta love games that lack polish (that among many things).

BW is known for doing a lot of things really well, but one thing they have never had is a level of polish similar to something Blizzard or Nintendo would publish.  It's always pretty easy to spot where BW cuts their corners.  Sometimes it detracts from the experience (no helmet toggle, giraffe necks, etc.), sometimes it doesn't.

Modifié par Nozybidaj, 10 février 2010 - 11:43 .

[Nastrod]

I would not mind at all if Shep would at least take off his helmet when he enters a conversation.

[Nite77]

Darth_Trethon wrote...
<clipped>. Nobody whined when you couldn't change armors in ME1 so get over yourself, wipe off your tears and move the hell on.

...wat.

[Wintermist]

Nite77 wrote...

Darth_Trethon wrote...
. Nobody whined when you couldn't change armors in ME1 so get over yourself, wipe off your tears and move the hell on.

...wat.

Ssshhhhh, don't wake the delusional.

[77boy84]

bjdbwea wrote...

Drop it? No. This is an issue, probably due to having to push the game out of the door, but that doesn't mean the paying customers have to accept it. Nor should we. The more you let "them" get away with, the worse might ME 3 again be.

Holy **** listen to yourself.

This is not a big issue.
There are like two or three times when the game actually requires no helmet to be on to make sense. This is not "the man" screwing over the little guy. This is bioware giving us an awesome game, and awesome bonus armor, and you're being a **** about it.

It's a tiny issue at best, lower than glitch level, because at least glitches can screw up your game, having to wear a helmet on bonus armor that is totally optional is not nearly as bad as you are trying to make it sound.