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#76
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sarahN7 wrote...

I really don't think this is an "issue" or "problem". Demanding such a thing that only effects what you look like is petty and you're asking them to take their attention away from important things such as patches for glitches, fixing the DLC issues, and working to possibly fix the text for DLC. Sorry, but grow up.


Grow up? Please... It's an issue people are having so it deserves attention just like everything else you listed. Do you really think that just because we're discussing it here on the forum BioWare are just going to stop what they're doing and concentrate on this?

Don't you think BioWare are capable enough to decide how their work day plans out?

We're voicing opinions, and if it disturbs you to read it, why don't you click on another thread and enjoy yourself there.

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packardbell wrote...

Regardless of all your whining it's not going to change, so please for the sake of rehashing the same old discussions - drop it.


umm have you played mass effect 2? we whined they changed it up/

now....see

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I don't use the DLC armors because I like to see my shep faces. That means the armors are essentially useless to me.

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Guys drop it. They aren't changing it they have more important things to do then care about you whining about armors you got free.



Beggars don't get to be choosy.

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NvVanity wrote...

Guys drop it. They aren't changing it they have more important things to do then care about you whining about armors you got free.

Beggars don't get to be choosy.


Sod the DLC's. I'm whining about the default armor.

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Wintermist wrote...

NvVanity wrote...

Guys drop it. They aren't changing it they have more important things to do then care about you whining about armors you got free.

Beggars don't get to be choosy.


Sod the DLC's. I'm whining about the default armor.


Okay then. Change to visor, the Dr. Pepper stuff or nothing. Problem solved.

#82
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I think complaining about the helmet toggle is completely and utterly valid. This is an RPG right? Well it's part of the fourth wall...it adds just another tiny element of realism to be able to see your Sheps face during conversation instead of talking out of a tin can helmet all over a station or planet that she visits while her team mates are just standing there helmet less.

Just because I bought the CE and received a 'bonus' armor doesn't mean I'm not entitled to have an opinion about that armor or basically contest the way its presented in game.

The ME franchise is the ONLY game that I even remotely love enough to freaking purchase a CE or any additional merch because of my sheer love of it. As such I have, as I can see most of us fans, a very passionate approach about how we see the game. Having fans like us is a double edged sword for BW I suppose b/c as much as we'll support the hell out of BW b/c we adore the game, we will also be vocal about what we see as terrible decisions on their part regarding our favorite universe.

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NvVanity wrote...

Wintermist wrote...

NvVanity wrote...

Guys drop it. They aren't changing it they have more important things to do then care about you whining about armors you got free.

Beggars don't get to be choosy.


Sod the DLC's. I'm whining about the default armor.


Okay then. Change to visor, the Dr. Pepper stuff or nothing. Problem solved.


Not solved, ignored.

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Darth_Trethon wrote...

Well the N7 armor and the components you can buy separately are fully intended to work as they do which means you are fully intended to be able to equip and unequip the helmets that you receive separately including the Dr. Pepper helmet and visors. Those work as intended so you trying to dramatize the situation by saying they didn't intend us to use them as such is just pointless bickering. The armor upgrades you gain through research work with the DLC armors and the DLC armors give much better bonuses than anything you can obtain in the game so they are great as they are. Nobody whined when you couldn't change armors in ME1 so get over yourself, wipe off your tears and move the hell on.


You could take the helmet off in ME1 though. I really just want the option to make my helmet inivislbe, It doesnt have to mean I can mix the parts with the dlc armor with the standard stuff.

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Considering Europa doesn't has those Dr.Pepper action, you are pretty much thinking what makes me believe you are QUITE narrow-minded.



We have nothing, only some visor. Yes we get those DLC's and if you ever realized, IMMERSION is a huge factor for any RPG to experienced fully, atleast for me.



Seeing some kind of bulky helm infront of Shepard and not seeing the facial features you maybe worked quite alot for is just outright insulting.



It's a contradiction even, they boast with their amazing facial capabilities, but reduce it to utter waste with the armour.



Think again, we simply want that BW keeps ME amazing as possible, destroying the immersion is a wrong path to take.

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It's also a customer relations issue. Think of it this way... what's the point of giving out DLC armor if so many people are unwilling to use it because of the helmet issue? Remember that you're in armor every time you step off of the Normandy, and that involves a lot of non-combat encounters. And as has been said many times, some of these make no sense if Shepard's mouth is covered.



Saying, 'no, never, working as intended, get over it' seems obstinate for no particularly good reason

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Wintermist wrote...

NvVanity wrote...

Wintermist wrote...

NvVanity wrote...

Guys drop it. They aren't changing it they have more important things to do then care about you whining about armors you got free.

Beggars don't get to be choosy.


Sod the DLC's. I'm whining about the default armor.


Okay then. Change to visor, the Dr. Pepper stuff or nothing. Problem solved.


Not solved, ignored.


Tough luck then. Bioware isn't going to care about one idiot begging to be able to take off his helmet.

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MediumD wrote...

I don't use the DLC armors because I like to see my shep faces. That means the armors are essentially useless to me.


This. I also paid extra money to get the extra armor, and I never use it because of this issue. They should definitely fix it.

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77boy84 wrote...

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This is not a big issue.
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This. It's not a big issue.
At least speaking about the N7 armor: Well, if you don't want the helmet to be turned on, take it off. That's what I did. That's what everyone can do. It's working as intended

As for the special armors... well, I don't use them. Maybe I would if there were a toggle, but I don't cry rivers over it.

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NvVanity wrote...

Wintermist wrote...

NvVanity wrote...

Wintermist wrote...

NvVanity wrote...

Guys drop it. They aren't changing it they have more important things to do then care about you whining about armors you got free.

Beggars don't get to be choosy.


Sod the DLC's. I'm whining about the default armor.


Okay then. Change to visor, the Dr. Pepper stuff or nothing. Problem solved.


Not solved, ignored.


Tough luck then. Bioware isn't going to care about one idiot begging to be able to take off his helmet.


Math isn't your strong side I guess. Look, if you've got a problem with people who think and prioritize things differently than yourself, do yourself a favor, don't read it. Go, get out, chop chop.

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Wintermist wrote...

NvVanity wrote...

Wintermist wrote...

NvVanity wrote...

Wintermist wrote...

NvVanity wrote...

Guys drop it. They aren't changing it they have more important things to do then care about you whining about armors you got free.

Beggars don't get to be choosy.


Sod the DLC's. I'm whining about the default armor.


Okay then. Change to visor, the Dr. Pepper stuff or nothing. Problem solved.


Not solved, ignored.


Tough luck then. Bioware isn't going to care about one idiot begging to be able to take off his helmet.


Math isn't your strong side I guess. Look, if you've got a problem with people who think and prioritize things differently than yourself, do yourself a favor, don't read it. Go, get out, chop chop.


How old are you exactly? I really want to know. Your like a five year old child that won't stop begging for something so insignificant. It's a sense of realism in ME2 that not wearing a helmet won't give you the same stats of wearing a helmet.

And i'm done now no sense in arguing with idiots in denial.

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NvVanity wrote...

Wintermist wrote...

NvVanity wrote...

Wintermist wrote...

NvVanity wrote...

Wintermist wrote...

NvVanity wrote...

Guys drop it. They aren't changing it they have more important things to do then care about you whining about armors you got free.

Beggars don't get to be choosy.


Sod the DLC's. I'm whining about the default armor.


Okay then. Change to visor, the Dr. Pepper stuff or nothing. Problem solved.


Not solved, ignored.


Tough luck then. Bioware isn't going to care about one idiot begging to be able to take off his helmet.


Math isn't your strong side I guess. Look, if you've got a problem with people who think and prioritize things differently than yourself, do yourself a favor, don't read it. Go, get out, chop chop.


How old are you exactly? I really want to know. Your like a five year old child that won't stop begging for something so insignificant. It's a sense of realism in ME2 that not wearing a helmet won't give you the same stats of wearing a helmet.

And i'm done now no sense in arguing with idiots in denial.


35, and thanks for leaving.

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Truth be told, it'd be a nifty feature. I like the Blood Dragon Armor but I also want to see my face when I'm talking to people. It's not the biggest issue but it warrants discussion. For the love of God, realize that a criticism of Mass Effect 2 or Bioware isn't a crime against humanity. You're certainly treating it as such.

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Apparently in the future back pockets,velcro straps,buttons,those climbing hook things you see in those plastic bins at sports authority,rope,and knots don't exist,good to know. But we can travel faster than light.

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Remember, BW is monitoring the forums to see where they can improve and somehow people can effectivily influence them for the BETTER.

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It does look incredibly stupid when Liara covers Shepard in kisses, and her face goes right through the Blood Dragon armor's helmet (and all other full-cover helmets for that matter). And It's utterly ridiculous how NPC's in the game seem to have X-Ray vision, recognizing Shepard regardless of how much metal there is between their eyes and his face.

While many will readily agree with the above statements, it's not a big deal to me.

I'd rather have a patch that will fix all the [expletive] clipping anomalies, the collision errors, the mutated animations (eg. the reporter's right arm bends backwards), and so many other bugs. And I haven't even touched on the class balancing issues. eg. There's a reason so many people pick the Vanguard and Adept classes, and it's not for the special effects.

Give us a game where the player doesn't get stuck 1 out of 5 times when using Charge; where a tech or soldier class main character's weapon damage actually scales up alongside my squad mates on Insanity difficulty (or decrease theirs); where the Adept isn't "evolved" into a cheeseball 2-skill spammer, and where mining is actually a useful element (no pun intended) instead of an annoying timesink that has little to no relevance to the in-game narrative. And while we're at it, give us a game where, if there is supposed to be a romantic element for the Hero/Heroine, make it mean something to the character, rather than throw in a sex scene just for the hell of it. (Seriously, ME1, with or without the intimate scene, was far better written.)

To hell with the helmet toggle. Fix the more important stuff first.

Modifié par Forest03, 10 février 2010 - 09:57 .


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Even if other stuff might seem more important to some of you, helmet issue affect *everyone* regardless of what they do and how they play the game. And it has a very easy solution: adding armour change screen to every "mission start" menu. We already have weapon lockers everywhere having weapons only Normandy has.

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Okay really people, you either want a helmet or you dont. Its as simple as that. Would you rather they waste the resources and weeks it would take to do that on such a simple thing, or would you rather they push out some extremely awesome dlc like they were unable to the first game. Let them work for the big stuff. Dont sweat your damn helmet toggle abilities

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I want a helmet toggle, personally. And not just for the DLC armors. The "no helmet" option removes all the boosts you get from whatever your helmet would be. Not the best solution, even if it is more realistic. After putting so much detail into their characters, facial expressions, and interactions, it seems somewhat silly to block so much of that off.



Now, I usually run with the +10% headshot visor ('cause I'm an Assassin Infiltrator that likes to kill things dead with one shot), and don't really mind the way it looks. But it would be nice to mix and match the armor pieces (and, yes, wear the DLC armor) for fun and still be able to see Shepard's face.



Also, it would avoid the awkward moments in game for people who get the DLC armors in a couple of the missions. You walk in on Tali's crew in the first real mission while wearing the Terminus armor you equipped from the Cerberus station, and she recognizes you how..? It's a giant black and red suit with no face visible, how the heck does she know it's you?! A similar thing happens with the Archangel mission.

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77boy84 wrote...

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Drop it? No. This is an issue, probably due to having to push the game out of the door, but that doesn't mean the paying customers have to accept it. Nor should we. The more you let "them" get away with, the worse might ME 3 again be.


Holy **** listen to yourself.

This is not a big issue.
There are like two or three times when the game actually requires no helmet to be on to make sense. This is not "the man" screwing over the little guy. This is bioware giving us an awesome game, and awesome bonus armor, and you're being a **** about it.

It's a tiny issue at best, lower than glitch level, because at least glitches can screw up your game, having to wear a helmet on bonus armor that is totally optional is not nearly as bad as you are trying to make it sound.


Quoted for truth and candy.