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[Weskerr]

kaotician wrote...

The Reapers remind me of 18th century Europeans and 21 st century Americans/white guys, in that they think they're better than everyone else thanks to some gadgets they've largely sequestrated off other people, they think they should be running the galaxy on account of their gadgets, and are willing and happy to entirely exterminate other races and peoples in order to get their grubby mitts on other peoples assets.

And they don't remind you of ****s (N.A.Z.I.S) because...?

Modifié par Weskerr, 13 février 2010 - 10:17 .

[kaotician]

Well, I thought I had that covered - half the USA white population is descended from Germanic peasantry - it's in the blood, you know, and 'white guys' generally covers the rest, doesn't it?

[transhumanism]

kaotician wrote...

abisha wrote...

Volus - Jews
funniest thing i read in a while..

I know, it's alternately laugh-out loud funny and disgraceful at the same time, isn't it? The central hypothesis of this thread seems based on the idea that Bioware couldn't simply have, y'know, invented these peoples at all, no, what instead happened is that they lazily cut-and-pasted their 'races' together from pre-existing racial stereotypes instead. Scandalous, really, and so utterly cheapening of the creative process that I'm left stunned.

well, most things tend to be inspired form things around them, life imitating art and what not, so im sure they had real world influences, like ripping off halo"s assault rifle 

[transhumanism]

kaotician wrote...

Well, I thought I had that covered - half the USA white population is descended from Germanic peasantry - it's in the blood, you know, and 'white guys' generally covers the rest, doesn't it?

bit of a racist yourself

[kaotician]

Then I hope my point has got across. Thank you.

[BARRAGE 74]

GenericPlayer2 wrote...

Here is my take:

Volus: Dwarves
Quarians: Elves
Krogan: Orcs
Salarians: Goblins
Asari: Wizards
Turians: Not sure.

 
A dwarf would whoop a volus' ****.  the only thing they have in common is height.

[Garuda One]

This thread isn't going to end well at all.

[BARRAGE 74]

Garuda One wrote...

This thread isn't going to end well at all.

You're right about that!

[Dark_Caduceus]

I think Jacob represents black people because he is black and he talks blackishly("spill some drinks on the sss-itadel") and also he does the black hug!

[Dark_Caduceus]

I think Tali is secretly a dragon.

[Dark_Caduceus]

I think Jacob should be called blackamo.

[x75flames]

Quarians are arabic, they dont show their faces and you can here it in Tails voice.

[Skavau]

kaotician wrote...

abisha wrote...

Volus - Jews
funniest thing i read in a while..

I know, it's alternately laugh-out loud funny and disgraceful at the same time, isn't it? The central hypothesis of this thread seems based on the idea that Bioware couldn't simply have, y'know, invented these peoples at all, no, what instead happened is that they lazily cut-and-pasted their 'races' together from pre-existing racial stereotypes instead. Scandalous, really, and so utterly cheapening of the creative process that I'm left stunned.

Scandalous? Disgraceful? What is this bombastic outrage?

The thread title happens to be what races, ethnic, or religious groups do Mass Effect aliens remind you of. It invites people to share their opinion on what the races of Mass Effect remind them of. No-one is necessarily saying that Bioware operated entirely from stereotype in producing their concepts, nor is anyone necessarily stating that any stereotypes invoked are universally true - infact, no-one is saying anything more really than what the aliens remind them, personally of.

Simply put, it is a discussion thread. If you're offended by a discussion, don't participate in it.

[kaotician]

Skavau wrote...

kaotician wrote...

abisha wrote...

Volus - Jews
funniest thing i read in a while..

I know, it's alternately laugh-out loud funny and disgraceful at the same time, isn't it? The central hypothesis of this thread seems based on the idea that Bioware couldn't simply have, y'know, invented these peoples at all, no, what instead happened is that they lazily cut-and-pasted their 'races' together from pre-existing racial stereotypes instead. Scandalous, really, and so utterly cheapening of the creative process that I'm left stunned.

Scandalous? Disgraceful? What is this bombastic outrage?

The thread title happens to be what races, ethnic, or religious groups do Mass Effect aliens remind you of. It invites people to share their opinion on what the races of Mass Effect remind them of. No-one is necessarily saying that Bioware operated entirely from stereotype in producing their concepts, nor is anyone necessarily stating that any stereotypes invoked are universally true - infact, no-one is saying anything more really than what the aliens remind them, personally of.

Simply put, it is a discussion thread. If you're offended by a discussion, don't participate in it.

I don't know whether to see this post as simply vacuous or mischievously disingenuous. So I'll settle for both. This thread is like a debate on the subject 'Given that the earth is flat, is it more square to you or rectangular?' In other words, the initial premise is false, and the precepts are false too, and for that reason it's not a debating point. It's got nothing to do with freedom of speech, liberty or the rest of the fatuous nonsense that's trotted out (usually by white americans), to defend it as a reasonable debating point against liberals, and everything to do with the fact it encourages people to think about the world in a way that we know to be false.<3

Modifié par kaotician, 14 février 2010 - 05:16 .

[Skavau]

kaotician wrote...
I don't know whether to see this post as simply vacuous or mischievously disingenuous. So I'll settle for both. This thread is like a debate on the subject 'Given that the earth is flat, is it more square to you or rectangular?' In other words, the initial premise is false, and the precepts are false too, and for that reason it's not a debating point. It's got nothing to do with freedom of speech, liberty or the rest of the fatuous nonsense that's trotted out (usually by white americans), to defend it as a reasonable debating point against liberals, and everything to do with the fact it encourages people to think about the world in a way that we know to be false.<3

What premise? There is no premise in this thread. It is asking for people's opinions.

It doesn't encourage people to think about the world in anyway. It asks people what ethnic and religious groups the species of Mass Effect remind them of.  Indeed, this encourages enquiry. People have been debating what the species in Mass Effect remind them of, and consequently been scrutinising general stereotypes. 

I'd also like to point out that whilst I am unsure whether your little complaints about white americans are serious, or supposed to be some sort of trap where you accuse people that respond to it negatively as being hypocritical - I am not American, and I am actually - or do consider myself, in general a liberal.

[Kwonnern]

Mikazukinoyaiba2 wrote...

Batarian's remind me of any extremist group, nothing about them speaks "Muslim" to me unless you're American.

Still don't see where people see "Jews" from Volus

And I'm not sure what real world ethnicity the Quarians are based off of, I can see the Gypsy part but their language can't figure out.

I believe he thought the connection Gypsies - Quarians was due to being Nomads, always travelling and Jews - Volus was regarding the importance of Money and Trading.

[kaotician]

Skavau wrote...

kaotician wrote...
I don't know whether to see this post as simply vacuous or mischievously disingenuous. So I'll settle for both. This thread is like a debate on the subject 'Given that the earth is flat, is it more square to you or rectangular?' In other words, the initial premise is false, and the precepts are false too, and for that reason it's not a debating point. It's got nothing to do with freedom of speech, liberty or the rest of the fatuous nonsense that's trotted out (usually by white americans), to defend it as a reasonable debating point against liberals, and everything to do with the fact it encourages people to think about the world in a way that we know to be false.<3

What premise? There is no premise in this thread. It is asking for people's opinions.

The premise in the question, can't you see it?

It doesn't encourage people to think about the world in anyway. It asks people what ethnic and religious groups the species of Mass Effect remind them of. 

Thus, directing them to think of the world in simplistic, seperatist, racially-defined ways.

Indeed, this encourages enquiry.

Of a false kind.

People have been debating what the species in Mass Effect remind them of, and consequently been scrutinising general stereotypes. 

By thinking of people in terms of racial stereotypes.

I'd also like to point out that whilst I am unsure whether your little complaints about white americans are serious,

Of course I'm serious. This thread is notable for the only race not being featured in stereotypical ways being the so-called 'white race'. (Another false idea).

or supposed to be some sort of trap where you accuse people that respond to it negatively as being hypocritical - I am not American, and I am actually - or do consider myself, in general a liberal.

[Skavau]

kaotician wrote..

The premise in the question, can't you see it?

No, it isn't. You're going to have to tell me what 'premise' you are referring to.

Thus, directing them to think of the world in simplistic, seperatist, racially-defined ways.

Don't be ridiculous. If people sincerely come out of this thread believing that all stereotypes as a consequence of this are valid, then they already had that tendency originally. The thread no more entrenches blanket perceptions than any thread that asks you to reference real life with the game.

By thinking of people in terms of racial stereotypes.

Do you seriously believe that people come out of this thread with the newly held belief that all stereotypes of any culture, religion or ethnic group is valid? People are debating, as you are, whether these stereotypes are valid. People have referenced Islam, Judaism and Gypsies to refer as influences of the Quarian and other users have been criticising these references.

Of course I'm serious. This thread
is notable for the only race not being featured in stereotypical ways
being the so-called 'white race'. (Another false idea).

And no-one in this thread has to my knowledge referred to any species in Mass Effect as being 'black', either. What's your point?

[Chained_Creator]

I think this thread can end on a positive note!

[Shinigami013]

Humans are Americans. We think we own all and have rights to all

[Chained_Creator]

Shinigami013 wrote...

Humans are Americans. We think we own all and have rights to all

Do people really think Americans act like this all the time?

[GnusmasTHX]

Chained_Creator wrote...

I think this thread can end on a positive note!

BLASPHEMY, LOCK HIM UP AND SUBJECT HIM TO NON CONSENSUAL SODOMY.

[Shinigami013]

Chained_Creator wrote...

Shinigami013 wrote...

Humans are Americans. We think we own all and have rights to all

Do people really think Americans act like this all the time?

I'm American and yes I see it everyday

[Chained_Creator]

GnusmasTHX wrote...

Chained_Creator wrote...

I think this thread can end on a positive note!

BLASPHEMY, LOCK HIM UP AND SUBJECT HIM TO NON CONSENSUAL SODOMY.

Oh, that's deliciously evil. I like you.

Shinigami013 wrote...

Chained_Creator wrote...

Shinigami013 wrote...

Humans
are Americans. We think we own all and have rights to all

Do
people really think Americans act like this all the time?

I'm American and yes I see it everyday

Then you deal with some very ****ty examples of Americans, or so I think. The ones I deal with everyday are generally not ****s. Guess I'm lucky, or something.

[Methany]

Militarily, Salarians remind me of Israel. A small, pfrofessional army, relying on fast attacks, bigger partners and a highly efficient intel system.

Systems Alliance's USA all the way.

Turians remind me of Japs but not sure.