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[bbslayer_07]

During their fight you have the choice to either tell one of them to stop and lose their loyalty or use a paragon/renegade option to resolve the fight and keep both of their loyalties. Now I have 100% Renegade and 20% paragon yet I still can't choose the renegade option.

I posted a topic earlier about some issues I was having with the renegade and paragon status things, but this is most certainly a Bug. Here is a link if you want to check it out, but please post here in this thread.
http://social.biowar...02214/1#1019380

[gamebites]

interesting i had around %80 renegade and couldn't choose it thought i needed 100% but if you still can't it must be a glitch i got suspicous though because after siding with tali i could choose the renegade option straiht away after to fix my loyalty with legion

[Snowraptor]

hey at least it aint as stupid as the jack and moranda bug, i only got everything perfect on my first playthrough, on all my others imported from my me2 file, i started loosing more options and was becoming more freaked out, really it "PISSES ME OFF"

[Creston918]

Yeah it irritated me, because I was about 30 or 40 points short of full renegade, and figured I was screwed. So even at 100% you can't do it? Maybe there's just no renegade-ey way of solving that dilemma, though it's odd the option is there (though greyed out.)



Still, you can simply choose in favor of Tali, then explain to Legion the logic behind your decision. He's a machine, he understands logic.

[Sovereign z]

Posted the same thing yesterday and got no responses. I'm having the exact issue as you, and I'm also wondering if its a glitch to.

Modifié par Sovereign z, 10 février 2010 - 08:27 .

[Daerog]

Seems more people have problems with the red text choice than the blue text choice...

[Mr.Skar]

Only thing I can say is I had full Paragon and it worked for me. There has to be some other requirement you have to meet that we don't know about. Either that or it is in fact a bug.

[SL22]

It's obvious that this is a sign from Bioware that douchebags always lose, I've had no problems as a Paragon:police:

[Sovereign z]

Snowraptor wrote...

hey at least it aint as stupid as the jack and moranda bug, i only got everything perfect on my first playthrough, on all my others imported from my me2 file, i started loosing more options and was becoming more freaked out, really it "PISSES ME OFF"

That's happening to me to! I can't seem to figure out why its doing this.

[General Balls]

If you're playing a New Game + it's a glitch that affects a few people, I think. I was completely unable to settle the fight between Jack and Miranda, or convince Miranda to stop pouting afterwards, with my Paragon score pretty much maxed.



Normal games don't seem to have the problem, at least in my experience.

[toezz]

Got the same issue here allthough after the figth, and if you stick with tali, and then talk to legion do you get the paragon/renegade options then? the renegade was "I was lying" or something.. i got that atleast and i was 100% renegade.. but surely it must be a glitch in the game with the initial figth.. all the other people who i have asked have the same issue..

[Mikazukinoyaiba2]

Is this PC only? I had no issue on the 360 w/ similar points.

[Sovereign z]

No, I'm having this problem on the 360.

[Inverness Moon]

Maybe it has something to do with how you complete their loyalty missions?

[Kim Stolz]

Those are some of the hardest persuades in the game.So unfortunately for some people they aren't going to be able to get them without being completely renegade or completely paragon. Now, trying not to spoil anything for anyone, some persuades are easier if you go paragon and some are easier if you go renegade. This was done on purpose story wise so people would have different experiances as they played. They are possible to do just very difficult.

[trigger2kill1]

If you had 85% paragon and 90% renegade then for all intents and purposes you are neutral. So therefore you are neither good nor bad thus giving you greyed out options for the special dialog options. I was able to do the renegade op and the paragon op on both of my playthroughs because I had a better than 3 to 1difference, I'll bet that is the defining process. Perhaps we can get a dev. to chime in on this to settle all the conjecture. But again I'm betting that you must have an overwhelming majority of points in one direction or another to have those choices open.

[Sovereign z]

I understand this, but my character had about 90% renegade, and barely any paragon, and it still didn't work. Thanks for the reply though Kim.

[Naltair]

Kim Stolz wrote...

Those are some of the hardest persuades in the game.So unfortunately for some people they aren't going to be able to get them without being completely renegade or completely paragon. Now, trying not to spoil anything for anyone, some persuades are easier if you go paragon and some are easier if you go renegade. This was done on purpose story wise so people would have different experiances as they played. They are possible to do just very difficult.

I could see that I did it just fine myself.

[HBC Dresden]

so wait, in me1, you could be paragon and renegade, as opposed to one or the other, like you having to be all darkside or good in kotor as one subtracts the other. me1 was all about being able to be both. but in me2, we have to sway one way or the other to be absolutely persuasive in that alignment?

[Naltair]

HBC Dresden wrote...

so wait, in me1, you could be paragon and renegade, as opposed to one or the other, like you having to be all darkside or good in kotor as one subtracts the other. me1 was all about being able to be both. but in me2, we have to sway one way or the other to be absolutely persuasive in that alignment?

Yeah only if you want to resolve the toughest persuasion contests effectively.

[amrose2]

I'm not convinced we're talking about the same thing though. I think we understand about some choices intentionally being very difficult.

The confusion over this seems to be if it's IMPOSSIBLE to do under certain circumstances verses a possible dialogue bug. Perhaps depending on how you have handled Geth/Quarian quests in your game, its simply impossible to make Tali/Legion work together.

Modifié par amrose2, 10 février 2010 - 09:11 .

[Sovereign z]

Thats what I'm starting to get confused about. I'm pretty sure its a bug, unless I'm missing something, because no matter how much renegade, or how little paragon I have, I never seem to have enough to resolve the conflict.

[soupbucket]

I was able to resolve it with 100% Paragon, but not with 100% Renegade.

[Sovereign z]

soupbucket wrote...

I was able to resolve it with 100% Paragon, but not with 100% Renegade.

I'm also having this problem in other parts of the story. I can solve the dispute with Miranda and Jack, but it won't let me in other places.

[Series5Ranger]

Couple of things to help

-Before triggering both of the fights, by completing their loyalty quests, make sure you :

A) Have your Passive "class" Skill maxed for the 75 - 100% bonus to your Renegade Paragon Score.

Make sure you have the Death Mask Equipped on your field armor as it has a Negotiation Bonus attached to it.