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Suicide Mission Guide. Also; Hold the Line-Deaths Explained (Mordin's, Tali's, etc)


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#226
Pacifien

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I suppose if you're stuck in the cutscene, you can't know. Otherwise, just go to your private terminal and find the squadmate that's in red. Or walk the ship.

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Yeah, alright, I admit that I didn't think of that because, well, I don't know why. Thanks for that.



Going to smack my forehead now...

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My squad: Zaeed and Kasumi (team DLC FTW!)



Vents: Legion



Second team leader (both times): Garrus



Biotic shield: Samara



Crew escort: Mordin



Everybody lives.

#229
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I always take Legion and Thane with me. Always send Mordin as the escort, even if he's loyal he ends up dying on the hold the line part.

Modifié par Canned Bullets, 16 mai 2010 - 02:37 .


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FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

I probably never mentioned this before, but on my first playthrough (which I finished a couple of weeks ago with everyone alive), I sent Thane to escort the crew back to Joker. Mordin was part of the hold the line team, and he still survived for me. My team for the final boss consisted of Grunt and Samara. I also had both Kasumi and Zaeed downloaded. I really don't know how it ended up that way for me; I guess I was just incredibly lucky. Even though now I realize that my choices weren't exactly the best.

Thought I'd point that out regarding Mordin being too vulnerable.

Just quoting my previous post regarding Mordin for those who might have missed it.

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So i just finished my first play thru. I only had 1 person die.

My squad: Tali and Jack (Kept Tali with me cause i didnt want her to die. went romantic route with her.)

Vents: Thane (thought he was going to be solo and not part of 2nd team also he is dying so if it was a one way trip not a big loss)

2nd Team Leader: Miranda (both times)

Biotic Shield: Samara (figured she was stronger and better control than Jack.)

Crew Escort: Garrus (Figured he would not let anyone die cause of his loyalty story)


Death(s):
Thane (took a shot to the head trying to close the door)


Going to do a 2nd try and going to swap Thane and Tali for the Vents and thenswap them back after and see how it turns out.

Edit: All members are loyal

Modifié par Zeige, 20 mai 2010 - 08:24 .


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Doug4130

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probably already been mentioned, but Kasumi can do the vents if she's loyal and not die

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The swapping of Thane and Tali worked and everyone survived.

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Zavrian wrote...

My squad: Zaeed and Kasumi (team DLC FTW!)

Vents: Legion

Second team leader (both times): Garrus

Biotic shield: Samara

Crew escort: Mordin

Everybody lives.


I kept losing Mordin on my first 5 playthroughs.  Once I got the DLCs Kasumi and Zaeed, I got everyone to survive.

I ALWAYS get everyone's loyalty (though I've made it through with no losses - except Mordin - while lacking either Miranda's or Jack's loyalty).  Kasumi being the tech to get the door open works well, and she also works well in the vent and as escort back to Normandy. 

I have used different characters as CC of second squad:  Miranda, Jacob, and Garrus.  No losses.

I have used various combos in final mission vs boss and never lost anyone but I always take only loyals with me.

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FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

I probably never mentioned this before, but on my first playthrough (which I finished a couple of weeks ago with everyone alive), I sent Thane to escort the crew back to Joker. Mordin was part of the hold the line team, and he still survived for me. My team for the final boss consisted of Grunt and Samara. I also had both Kasumi and Zaeed downloaded. I really don't know how it ended up that way for me; I guess I was just incredibly lucky. Even though now I realize that my choices weren't exactly the best.

Thought I'd point that out regarding Mordin being too vulnerable.

Just quoting my previous post regarding Mordin for those who might have missed it.


This is the same for me.  I don't understand how Mordin dies for so many people, my last few playthroughs i left Mordin with the "hold the line" group and he never died.

#236
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Final team should be Miranda and Garrus IMHO.

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I take Tali and Miranda with me to the final battle for two reasons:

1) Tali is my LI, so it makes sense
2) Miranda gives TIM the finger (I destroy the base everytime)

Glorious.

Modifié par Alphyn, 22 mai 2010 - 01:38 .


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How come everyone uses Mordin to escort the crew? He is possibly the best person to use in the final reaper fight, with his CC powers and Incinerate against armor. I bring him everytime, along with Miranda/Legion (if he has the widow). Tali escorts the crew. Tali, Miranda, Mordin, Legion, Samara and Garrus are loyal, Miranda is first fire team, Garrus second, Samara is biotic person and Legion in the vents. All ship upgrades, no deaths.

#239
Pacifien

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If you're not going to use Mordin for the final battle, you might as well have him escort the crew since he's the most likely to die. I took him to the final battle on my first playthrough. I do enjoy a good incineration.

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Dan the Man with a Plan

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If you have all upgrades and almost everyone is loyal you won't have a problem anyone can hold the line, but mordin is a really good escort.

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Squad 1: Jacob, Grunt
Vents: Legion
Fire squad leader 1: Garrus
Squad 2: Legion, Jacob
Fire squad 2: Garrus
Biotic Shield: Samara
Escort: Modrin
Everyone survived

Modifié par Nightvision91, 24 mai 2010 - 07:00 .


#242
Pacifien

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I'm surprised at how many people forget to include who they take with them to the final battle, as that does affect survival rates as well. Guess that goes to show how little people consider the "Hold the Line" defense in the final equation of survivability.

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Just use your mind get all loyalties



and dont make stupid mistakes simple



And your whole crew will made it alive :P

#244
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And of cource dont take Legion to early



cause the game begins counting time .... until the omega 4 relay



i said no stupidities or human mistakes :P



CERBERUS IS COUNTING ON YOU :P

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Alphyn wrote...

I take Tali and Miranda with me to the final battle for two reasons:

1) Tali is my LI, so it makes sense
2) Miranda gives TIM the finger (I destroy the base everytime)

Glorious.


You destroy the base ? LAME !!!

You lose a nice ME3 then ... with many twisted plots .... why humans always are so hasty ... ??? :unsure:

#246
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To be on the safe side i always bring tali and mordin with me with everyone loyal and everyone lives, but mordin dies the min i leave him on the line, so i bring him and tali = win.

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I'm curious:



What exactly happens if a player goes after the IFF before picking up a few more characters? Will the player run out of time (suggesting the player did all the loyalty quests, etc.) and lose the crew?

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ok very confused, i have everyone loyal, even kusami.  saved in a spot that i could redo the suicide mission over and over.  Went thought the ENTIRE list of techs...all died, only one that did...had sumara lead first leg, then had her for biotic, with miranda leading other team and zaeed taking crew back, then had miranda lead last team...why wont any of my techs survive?

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kandazar wrote...
ok very confused, i have everyone loyal, even kusami.  saved in a spot that i could redo the suicide mission over and over.  Went thought the ENTIRE list of techs...all died, only one that did...had sumara lead first leg, then had her for biotic, with miranda leading other team and zaeed taking crew back, then had miranda lead last team...why wont any of my techs survive?

Have you thought about reading the first post of the thread which tries to be very specific on explaining what you need to do?

It has nothing to do with your techs, it's who you're picking to be your leader.

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I'm on my third play through and I've never lost anyone. Just did all the loyalty missions and happened to choose wisely I guess. My first play through was with an Infiltrator, second was a Sentinel. For both the end parties were the same:

Tech: Tali (I trust her, plain and simple. She's been my tech expert since ME 1)
First Squad Leader: Garrus (Same as above)
My First Team: Grunt (good vs collectors in their armor), Samara (Useful for deal with barriers)

Biotic: Jack (I almost never used her in the game, always found Miranda and Samara more useful. Figured I may as well use her now)
Second Squad Leader: Garrus (what can I say, He's just a dependable S.O.B.)
My Second Team: Samara and Grunt again.

Escort: Mordin (Never really used him much, although in reading this thread I can see why folks like to take him with them)
My Final Team: Tali (I figured her exploding drone would help keep mobs off of me, although come to think of it Legion would have been better with his rifles), Samara/Garrus (Samara with my Infiltrator, Garrus with my Sentinel).

EDIT: Is there a list of which characters have anything extra to say during the Illusive Man's talk? I don't recall Tali or Samara saying anything at the end. Does Miranda have something to say?

Modifié par TheAwesomologist, 28 mai 2010 - 08:28 .