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[CrYpT1c_CHa0s]

lol...breaks my immersion. You dress up like your main character too while you play the game? lol..immersion, give me a break.

[MadHatt3r]

S.Hall wrote...

Shadow_Viper wrote...

Wow, people are still crying about the DLCs...

It's extremely simple, if you do not like the DLCs, do not buy them.

There's no reason to whine and cry about it.

Breaks my immersion. That's a reason. Fanboy.

I had to agree there.. It took me a few lines into the dialogue with the guy to realize he was trying to sell me Wardens Keep.

Maybe DLC quest givers should have a different color to their names?  I dont have any grudge against the DLC itself, I've fought with bug squasher dept's a few times, but it would be nice to know where the original game stops and the optional content begins.

[MadHatt3r]

CrYpT1c_CHa0s wrote...

lol...breaks my immersion. You dress up like your main character too while you play the game? lol..immersion, give me a break.

-1 reply to topic's not whether someone's pajama's are your style..

[Nameless_1]

I had a similar post before this. I have no problem with the DLC itself. But I don't see a need to insert a NPC into the game to advertise it. If you want people to see it, just put it on the Launcher like they did with NWN2 and its expansions, or even the Main Menu.

[Bawheidbob]

I only wish i had seen thought about doing the download thing before i spent three hours watching tv and not after i decided to finally get the game on and do some play



At least the DLC gives people the opportunity to get the 'CE' content if they want it at a later stage.

[ReallyAngry6969]

Inhocmark wrote...

I must respectfully disagree.

The DLC offered is essentially a side quest which if you choose to not purchase won't break the game.

If you weren't ever planning on purchasing it, why would it matter if it was in the 4th hour of the 44th?

And while some games that release day 0 DLC can be criticized, in this instance, a totally optional side quest in a game already bulging at the seams with gameplay hours is probably the wrong tree to send your Mubari war hound barking up.

It does break the game because the side quests that do exist are pathetic, meek, unsubstantial, or whatever adjective you want to use to describe them.

How would Baldur's Gate II have been if you had to pay $7 dollars for the Planar Sphere, Firkraag's Dungeon, Trademeet, etcetera?  

The game is not bulging at the seems with gameplay hours.

[casadechrisso]

I must say I find this ingame advertising quite a bit annoying too, actually it's a reason for me not to buy the DLC, I hate being approached like that (and the DLC content menu, which of course tries to tell me I'm missing out on something). Not gamebreaking, not ruining my immersion and overall fun, but marketing of a type I just don't like, sorry.

Modifié par casadechrisso, 06 novembre 2009 - 09:49 .

[Davidma22]

It's all a matter of opinion. I don't think it's fair to say "this is wrong" just because you don't like it. I personally don't care one way or the other. In fact, I thought it was a cool feature. I mean, if you actually click the dialogue option, does it take you to the ps3 store without stopping the game? I'd prefer that over having to save, quit, go to the main menu, then get the dlc that I know I've reached.



It was also cool to know when exactly that quest pops up. I was worried about playing past it and not finding it again.



So it's really just about opinion. It's not right or wrong. It is what it is.

[Osprey39]

WildstarGoethe wrote...

ByblosHex wrote...

Which DLC did you encounter within an hour of game time?

If you go to your camp, there will be a character there that tries to get you to help him with a quest, ie, he tries to sell you DLC (Warden's Keep). It was a little odd, if not somewhat off-putting. I still bought the dlc, though, for all my whining is worth.

I highly doubt ANYBODY got there in the first hour of playtime even on easy mode.

[Daedalus1773]

It's fun to watch the fanboys twist themselves into semantic knots to justify BioWare's actions on this. As though someone defining what your $50 buys you for in-game content makes it ok to discover 10% of the way through the game that you need to cough up an extra $15 to play all the content. Oh but wait, someone somewhere said that doesn't COUNT as "full game content". So it's ok? Really, on the day the game is released???

Screw that. If your game is worth $65, then charge $65 for the fraking game and include all the damn content available on day 1. Don't charge me $50 and then stick a used car salesman NPC in my RPG to grab another $15 out of my pocket for "extra" content, or "content that got cut but is now finished" or whatever else you want to call it to make us feel warm & cuddly about the experience. All it does is make me feel ripped off, either of the $15 I lose or the quest content I'm not getting.

Modifié par Daedalus1773, 06 novembre 2009 - 10:19 .

[scyld]

The only thing that I find really disappointing about this is that the NPC for Warden's Keep is there at all advertising the DLC even if you didn't buy it.

If you don't have Warden's Keep, the NPC shouldn't be there. You shouldn't be subjected to what is essentially an advertisement in a $50 game.

*cough*EA*cough*

Modifié par scyld, 06 novembre 2009 - 10:21 .

[Osprey39]

scyld wrote...

The only thing that I find really disappointing about this is that the NPC for Warden's Keep is there at all advertising the DLC even if you didn't buy it.

If you don't have Warden's Keep, the NPC shouldn't be there. You shouldn't be subjected to what is essentially an advertisement in a $50 game.

*cough*EA*cough*

Now that part I can kind of agree with.  I could have lived without the NPC being there too but at the same time, I'm not going to lose any sleep over it.  I'll lose sleep playing this game though because it's awesome.

[Shadow_Viper]

S.Hall wrote...

Shadow_Viper wrote...

Wow, people are still crying about the DLCs...

It's extremely simple, if you do not like the DLCs, do not buy them.

There's no reason to whine and cry about it.

Breaks my immersion. That's a reason. Fanboy.

So don't let it break your immersion. 

Oh wait, but if you did that, you would have one less thing to cry about on video game forums....

In short, IFSW(Its Fine, Stop Whining).

Modifié par Shadow_Viper, 06 novembre 2009 - 10:49 .

[Shadow_Viper]

Bah, forums are still a bit buggy.

Modifié par Shadow_Viper, 06 novembre 2009 - 10:52 .

[SheffSteel]

Daedalus1773 wrote...

It's fun to watch the fanboys twist themselves into semantic knots to justify BioWare's actions on this. As though someone defining what your $50 buys you for in-game content makes it ok to discover 10% of the way through the game that you need to cough up an extra $15 to play all the content. Oh but wait, someone somewhere said that doesn't COUNT as "full game content". So it's ok? Really, on the day the game is released???

Screw that. If your game is worth $65, then charge $65 for the fraking game and include all the damn content available on day 1. Don't charge me $50 and then stick a used car salesman NPC in my RPG to grab another $15 out of my pocket for "extra" content, or "content that got cut but is now finished" or whatever else you want to call it to make us feel warm & cuddly about the experience. All it does is make me feel ripped off, either of the $15 I lose or the quest content I'm not getting.

It's fun to watch the angry haters obstinately remaining ignorant of the facts and using woolly logic (e.g. "all the content") to justify their own nerd-rage.

So let's try and lay this out without "semantic knots".

You pay for the game --> you get the game...  plus some stuff that was too late to get onto the final DVD.
You pay extra --> you get extra content.

Clear enough?

[Cirellion_Malevar]

Love the game so far. For the developers' benefit...I was also annoyed at encountering the NPC in camp and then finding out I had to make an additional purchase if I wanted the content. Haven't decided yet if I'm going to get over it and buy the DLC because I like the core game so much, or if I'm going to refuse to buy as a matter of principle.

[Shadow_Viper]

The DLC-NPC did not annoy me at all, nor did it break my immersion in the least.

[gearyboy]

Just browsing through the forums - lot of people loving the game, but many finding faults...nothing will ever be perfect. The DLC? Well it there if you want it but not essential, plenty of game to get through. Playing DA on xbox360, having gone through the agonies of playing Fallout3 on ps3 (glitchy port, no DLC, then yes DLC, then delayed DLC, then 'extended load times and constant console crashes' DLC), this is a breath of fresh air. I hope Bioware bring some more DLC to the table in time, just give us a couple of months to finish what we already have!



p.s. Dwarves rule - first time I've been able to play one having roleplayed them in my youth...

[Cirellion_Malevar]

Malastare- wrote...

Before you go and rage...

The original poster expressed disappointment, not rage.

...you might actually consider listening to the many things the developers at Bioware have to say about the DLC.

Not relevant. An "uneducated" customer pays the same amount for the game as an "educated" customer.

...I know it makes people feel good to show how rebellious and oppressed they are, but in this case, you're just wrong.

Also not relevant. The devs need to know where the majority of opinions fall ...regardless of whether those opinions are "right" or "wrong"...so that they can tailor future content in a way that makes the most business sense.

[scyld]

gearyboy wrote...

Just browsing through the forums - lot of people loving the game, but many finding faults...nothing will ever be perfect. The DLC? Well it there if you want it but not essential, plenty of game to get through. Playing DA on xbox360, having gone through the agonies of playing Fallout3 on ps3 (glitchy port, no DLC, then yes DLC, then delayed DLC, then 'extended load times and constant console crashes' DLC), this is a breath of fresh air. I hope Bioware bring some more DLC to the table in time, just give us a couple of months to finish what we already have!

p.s. Dwarves rule - first time I've been able to play one having roleplayed them in my youth...

Again, the thing is that the quest giver should not be there if you don't have the DLC. If you don't have the DLC, he just serves as an advertisement, which I can understand would be pretty darn annoying if I didn't have the Warden's Keep.

[RyodorRilaith]

Nameless_1 wrote...

I had a similar post before this. I have no problem with the DLC itself. But I don't see a need to insert a NPC into the game to advertise it. If you want people to see it, just put it on the Launcher like they did with NWN2 and its expansions, or even the Main Menu.

This is how it should be, while I have all the DLC currently, and have no problem with them adding more, I'd rather not be the target of advertising for it while I'm playing

[gearyboy]

Fair points made and I can see how it would ruin the flow of your game. Harking back to Fallout3 again, the DLC wasn't evident in the game. As soon as you bought it, a map marker was added with a brief 'check it out' message. Sounds like something similar would have worked here...

[Visith]

I would have been ok with the advertisement NPC if I could kill him.

[Drogo45]

Wow, people are still crying about the DLCs...

It's extremely simple, if you do not like the DLCs, do not buy them.

There's no reason to whine and cry about it.

No kidding.  I fail to see any issue here.....  

Don't want the DLC?  Don't buy it.

The NPC with quest bothering you?  Move your little pixel-boy/girl away......

Don't have any money to get the extra game play?  Tough.  There will always be folks with more stuff than you.

Modifié par Drogo45, 06 novembre 2009 - 11:49 .

[Azrailx]

1 hour to camp thats fast



the orgin stories take about 1 hour...