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Disappointing to run into a DLC roadblock so early in the game


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Shadow_Viper

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Cirellion_Malevar wrote...

Malastare- wrote...

Before you go and rage...


The original poster expressed disappointment, not rage.


Seemed like the typical overdramatic rage to me.

Cirellion_Malevar wrote...


...you might actually consider listening to the many things the developers at Bioware have to say about the DLC.


Not relevant. An "uneducated" customer pays the same amount for the game as an "educated" customer.


Just because you disagree with something, doesn't mean it's not relevent. Posted Image

Someone who does not do their research on a game before buying it, should not be surprised when it's not what they were expecting.

Cirellion_Malevar wrote...


...I know it makes people feel good to show how rebellious and oppressed they are, but in this case, you're just wrong.


Also not relevant. The devs need to know where the majority of opinions fall ...regardless of whether those opinions are "right" or "wrong"...so that they can tailor future content in a way that makes the most business sense. 


Once again, just because you disagree with something, doesn't mean it's not relevent.

I would hardly call the vocal forum minority, the majority of opinions.... Especially those that delight in whining/crying/nitpicking/complaining about tiny "issues" on the forums.

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S.Hall wrote...

Breaks my immersion. That's a reason. Fanboy.


Your mom breaks my immersion.

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Shadow_Viper wrote...

Cirellion_Malevar wrote...

Malastare- wrote...

Before you go and rage...


The original poster expressed disappointment, not rage.


Seemed like the typical overdramatic rage to me.

No, it was an expression of disappointment, and a pretty valid one at that.  I saw no raging.

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ForceXev wrote...

I was surprised and disappointed with Bioware to find that I had to pay out more money in order to do a quest less than an hour into playing the game.  I understand RPGs normally come out with DLC packs nowadays, but they're normally more like an expansion that comes out some time later, not a piece of the original game withheld in order to milk a little more money from players within an hour of starting the game.  What a dirty trick.




You must be the best gamer ever if you completed the game in less than an hour and had to pay to dl some extra content that isnt required to even play the game....:blink:

Modifié par VanDraegon, 07 novembre 2009 - 12:01 .


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stevej713 wrote...

Shadow_Viper wrote...

Cirellion_Malevar wrote...

Malastare- wrote...

Before you go and rage...


The original poster expressed disappointment, not rage.


Seemed like the typical overdramatic rage to me.

No, it was an expression of disappointment, and a pretty valid one at that.  I saw no raging.


Rage or not. It was certainly overdramatic. The DLC-NPC is far from a "roadblock" and not even close to a "dirty trick."

Once again, if you have a problem with the DLCs, do not buy them. Simple as that.

Whether you choose to buy the DLCs, or not, neither choice requires whining on the forums.

As for immersion breaking: the NPC only does so if you let it. Posted Image

In short, IFSW.

#56
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Meh. I like it. Strokes and folks and such.

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It's not a big deal. It's just kind of lame that they try to market it to you. I don't give a **** if they have the guy in there to begin the quest once you've downloaded it: the point is, however, that if you don't have the DLC this character comes into the middle of your game and tries to get you to buy more ****.

If you do not have the extra content, this NPC has no other justifiable reason, other than to try and remind you that you should buy said DLC. If you want to have DLC day 1, cool; don't try to market it to me in a game that I've already paid for. Let me know that it's there some other way. Don't put a used car salesman in the campsite of the Grey Wardens set out to save Ferelden. That's sleazy and makes your game look as such.

This is a role-playing game, I don't want text options as follows:
"1.I will be going now."
"2.Tell me more about this promise."
"3.BUY PREMIUM CONTENT SO YOU CAN EMBARK ON THIS AMAZING QUEST-- BUT WAIT, THERE'S MORE! BUY WITHIN THE NEXT 10 MINUTES AND GET TWO DARKSPAWN PLUSHIES ABSOLUTELY FREE!"

Modifié par Pink_Moon, 07 novembre 2009 - 03:33 .


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Taleroth wrote...
Regardless of whether or not there is an in-game advertisement for it, it's still not part of the original game cut out to sell as DLC, as was part of your original complaint.

The word "advertisement" doesn't exist in the entirety of your original post.  Don't move goalposts  just to pretend your complaint is still valid.


The content was ready to go at release.  To me, that means its part of the original game.  I don't care about the challenges of development that supposedly made it too hard for them to include it along with the rest of the game.  That's their problem.  The fact remains that they released a game with stuff missing for the purpose of charging extra for it.  It means that while the game was being developed, part of their team was working on other stuff that they either intended to charge extra for even then, or they eventually decided "hey, let's leave this out and we'll charge another $7 for it."  Meanwhile, the game has bugs as have been pointed out all over the forum (incidentally, even the forum has bugs).  Maybe they could have worked those out if they weren't so busy trying to figure out how to cash in on DLC.  Bioware has always been about making the best game they could, but with this game, with the bugs and this DLC shenanigans, it feels like their focus was on making the most profit possible instead of making the best game possible.  Is it EA's influence, or a shift in Bioware's philosophy.  I don't know.

Your second comment about "goalposts" is so dumb, I'm not even going to bother responding.

CrYpT1c_CHa0s wrote...
yeah..no way you faced this issue (which isnt an issue IMO) within the
first hour of play...lol. Not even remotely possible. Try stretching
the truth a bit more please. kthxbye


Oh whatever.  One hour, two hours, three hours.  I wasn't timing it.  The point is it's very early in the game.  In fact, it really doesn't make any difference where in the game this DLC trick pops up anyway.

Daedalus1773 wrote...
It's fun to watch the fanboys twist themselves into semantic knots to
justify BioWare's actions on this. As though someone defining what your
$50 buys you for in-game content makes it ok to discover 10% of the way
through the game that you need to cough up an extra $15 to play all the
content. Oh but wait, someone somewhere said that doesn't COUNT as
"full game content". So it's ok? Really, on the day the game is
released???

Screw that. If your game is worth $65, then charge
$65 for the fraking game and include all the damn content available on
day 1. Don't charge me $50 and then stick a used car salesman NPC in my
RPG to grab another $15 out of my pocket for "extra" content, or
"content that got cut but is now finished" or whatever else you want to
call it to make us feel warm & cuddly about the experience. All it
does is make me feel ripped off, either of the $15 I lose or the quest
content I'm not getting.


This is well said, and basically sums up my thinking.  People are justifying it by describing what went on behind the scenes at Bioware, something about the game's release being delayed or whatever, but I don't know or care about any of that.  The bottom line is that this is a game with stuff missing until you agree pay more money.  That's what I see when I play the game, and it is disappointing to stumble upon it while I'm having fun just talking to an NPC thinking I'm playing the game, only to find out I'm being fed a DLC advertisement.

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I wonder how many of the fanboys who say that DLC isnt a problem is paying for the content with their own earned money. And no: Allowances for taking out the trash does not count.



As I stated before: DLC is ok, but please dont advertise it ingame. That DOES make it seem half-done to me.