The "Official" Morinth Adoration Thread
#226
Posté 12 juin 2010 - 10:27
#229
Guest_JohnnyDollar_*
Posté 13 juin 2010 - 12:32
Guest_JohnnyDollar_*
Modifié par JohnnyDollar, 13 juin 2010 - 01:06 .
#231
Posté 04 juillet 2010 - 08:03
#232
Posté 04 juillet 2010 - 11:36
Just_mike wrote...
She kills you with SEX. Theres a hidden message in that somewhere.
Everytime I see someone say this I always wonder if there was another scene I didn't get because I never saw a sex scene.
If what happens with Morinth is considered sex then Liara is a very bold for getting you twice before the actual love scene (in front of all your squadmates) and Shiala's just as bold for getting you right after you released her (no pun intended).
#233
Guest_yorkj86_*
Posté 05 juillet 2010 - 02:17
Guest_yorkj86_*
Xeranx wrote...
Just_mike wrote...
She kills you with SEX. Theres a hidden message in that somewhere.
Everytime I see someone say this I always wonder if there was another scene I didn't get because I never saw a sex scene.
If what happens with Morinth is considered sex then Liara is a very bold for getting you twice before the actual love scene (in front of all your squadmates) and Shiala's just as bold for getting you right after you released her (no pun intended).
There's some subtlety to pick up on between those instances.
#234
Posté 05 juillet 2010 - 11:20
yorkj86 wrote...
There's some subtlety to pick up on between those instances.
The subtlety within that instance with Morinth and the definition of sex (intercourse) does not match. My point for using the instances with Liara and Shiala were to state that sultry speech followed by touching someone's head does not mean sex occurred.
If you share a drug with someone and have a euphoric experience does that equate to having sex with whom you shared the drug?
#235
Guest_yorkj86_*
Posté 06 juillet 2010 - 12:32
Guest_yorkj86_*
Xeranx wrote...
yorkj86 wrote...
There's some subtlety to pick up on between those instances.
The subtlety within that instance with Morinth and the definition of sex (intercourse) does not match. My point for using the instances with Liara and Shiala were to state that sultry speech followed by touching someone's head does not mean sex occurred.
If you share a drug with someone and have a euphoric experience does that equate to having sex with whom you shared the drug?
For the Asari, there's a difference between joining minds for the purpose of the transfer of information, and joining minds for the purpose of intimacy.
In ME1, when Liara and Shiala join minds with Shepard to access the information about the Protheans and the Cipher is Shepard's mind, that's not intimacy.
In ME1, if Shepard romances Liara, and we see the romance scene, that's joining minds for intimacy.
Ardat-Yakshi do kill people by the joining of minds. We'd need to establish exactly what was happening when Morinth's eyes go black and her face goes white. Was that mind-control, which Morinth has, or a joining of minds? It can't be both, since, as I stated, Ardat-Yakshi kill people by joining minds. As I see it, there are two options: That was mind-control (which Shepard, with Super Protagonist Powers, can break), or the developers made a boo-boo with lore.
Modifié par yorkj86, 06 juillet 2010 - 12:58 .
#236
Posté 06 juillet 2010 - 12:34
#237
Posté 06 juillet 2010 - 12:42
thesuperdarkone wrote...
You people appreciate this?
I think it is safe to assume that we have all viewed that before... and dont' care... death by snu snu.
#238
Guest_JohnnyDollar_*
Posté 06 juillet 2010 - 01:04
Guest_JohnnyDollar_*
I would assume that their is a brief joining of minds that occurs, like it occurs with normal Asari that are not AY.yorkj86 wrote...
Xeranx wrote...
The subtlety within that instance with Morinth and the definition of sex (intercourse) does not match. My point for using the instances with Liara and Shiala were to state that sultry speech followed by touching someone's head does not mean sex occurred.yorkj86 wrote...
There's some subtlety to pick up on between those instances.
If you share a drug with someone and have a euphoric experience does that equate to having sex with whom you shared the drug?
For the Asari, there's a difference between joining minds for the purpose of the transfer of information, and joining minds for the purpose of intimacy.
In ME1, when Liara and Shiala join minds with Shepard to access the information about the Protheans and the Cipher is Shepard's mind, that's not intimacy.
In ME1, if Shepard romances Liara, and we see the romance scene, that's joining minds for intimacy.
Ardat-Yakshi do kill people by the joining of minds. We'd need to establish exactly what was happening when Morinth's eyes go black and her face goes white. Was that mind-control, which Morinth has, or a joining of minds?
The mind joining is intimate in itself, even if intimacy is not the purpose or motivation, I would think.
She presumably enjoys the act. Is murder the sole enjoyment? Is pleasure derived from the mind joining, with the enventual death of the other individual adding even more pleasure?
#239
Guest_yorkj86_*
Posté 06 juillet 2010 - 01:26
Guest_yorkj86_*
JohnnyDollar wrote...
I would assume that their is a brief joining of minds that occurs, like it occurs with normal Asari that are not AY.
The mind joining is intimate in itself, even if intimacy is not the purpose or motivation, I would think.
She presumably enjoys the act. Is murder the sole enjoyment? Is pleasure derived from the mind joining, with the enventual death of the other individual adding even more pleasure?
It satisfies an addiction. That's probably the primary motivation - it satisfies the "itch" of it having been a while since her last "hit".
EDIT: The mind-joining is the entire act, though. It's why sensations are multiplied and split between the Asari and her partner during the act, making the intimacy more potent. Presumably, it's why the Asari can get pregnant from the act.
Modifié par yorkj86, 06 juillet 2010 - 01:28 .
#240
Posté 06 juillet 2010 - 03:13
#241
Posté 06 juillet 2010 - 04:10
#242
Posté 15 juillet 2010 - 03:34
#243
Posté 15 juillet 2010 - 12:11
NICKjnp wrote...
In ME3 I would like Morinth to be like Dexter. I want her to be influenced by Shepard... but even then she is still twisted. I imagine her hunting down and seducing other sociopaths (not necessarilty Ardat-Yakshi... but other "monsters" like herself). That should be her attempt at redemption... if she has one.
I thought I was the only one who thought like this.
I hated how they tried to shoe horn a 3 dimensional character into a 2 dimensional box and how many (if not most) just accepted it. To imagine that for 400 years she reveled in her condition instead of trying to find ways to improve or fix it just seems like a waste.
Along the lines of "Dexter", I thought about how it would have been if she were targeting only mercs and such to boost her abilities since they and murderers et al wouldn't be in short supply over the course of 400 years.
Modifié par Xeranx, 15 juillet 2010 - 12:13 .
#244
Posté 15 juillet 2010 - 02:22
yorkj86 wrote...
JohnnyDollar wrote...
I would assume that their is a brief joining of minds that occurs, like it occurs with normal Asari that are not AY.
The mind joining is intimate in itself, even if intimacy is not the purpose or motivation, I would think.
She presumably enjoys the act. Is murder the sole enjoyment? Is pleasure derived from the mind joining, with the enventual death of the other individual adding even more pleasure?
It satisfies an addiction. That's probably the primary motivation - it satisfies the "itch" of it having been a while since her last "hit".
EDIT: The mind-joining is the entire act, though. It's why sensations are multiplied and split between the Asari and her partner during the act, making the intimacy more potent. Presumably, it's why the Asari can get pregnant from the act.
The way I look at it: Morinth can forge a link with her partner and begin the process that allows for randomization in case she wants to bear a child, but what happens is she's unable to exert any control over the process so she ends up overloading her partner's brain (basically exerting more force than she needs to) resulting in some weird kick back when her partner dies. I don't think it's pleasurable because of something Samara says if I remember correctly. The last time I started ME2 after the last patch I interacted with a console and my computer froze.
By the way, sorry for the late reply.
Modifié par Xeranx, 15 juillet 2010 - 02:22 .
#245
Posté 15 juillet 2010 - 02:34
Xeranx wrote...
NICKjnp wrote...
In ME3 I would like Morinth to be like Dexter. I want her to be influenced by Shepard... but even then she is still twisted. I imagine her hunting down and seducing other sociopaths (not necessarilty Ardat-Yakshi... but other "monsters" like herself). That should be her attempt at redemption... if she has one.
I thought I was the only one who thought like this.
I hated how they tried to shoe horn a 3 dimensional character into a 2 dimensional box and how many (if not most) just accepted it. To imagine that for 400 years she reveled in her condition instead of trying to find ways to improve or fix it just seems like a waste.
Along the lines of "Dexter", I thought about how it would have been if she were targeting only mercs and such to boost her abilities since they and murderers et al wouldn't be in short supply over the course of 400 years.
I think that she should still revel in her condition... it would detract from her character otherwise. I just think that though she is thinking she is doing better by targeting other sociopaths... she is still twisted and a murderer.
#246
Posté 15 juillet 2010 - 05:55
NICKjnp wrote...
I think that she should still revel in her condition... it would detract from her character otherwise. I just think that though she is thinking she is doing better by targeting other sociopaths... she is still twisted and a murderer.
Maybe unconsciously she could do that, but to consciously revel in her condition it doesn't seem like she would be the type to do that. At least to me she doesn't come across that way.
#247
Posté 22 juillet 2010 - 02:20
#248
Posté 22 juillet 2010 - 02:29
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