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[kennyme2]

I'm going through Insanity right now and am looking to respec. I have never used cryo ammo at all. Will it still freeze enemies with shields/barriers/armor? Would you recomend using it on Insanity?

[TheBestClass]

Armor Piercing and Disruptor.

[kennyme2]

TheBestclass wrote...

Armor Piercing and Disruptor.

I choose inferno over armor piercing because it stops health regen which I heard is a pretty big deal when taking out Vorcha and Krogan on Insanity. On any other difficulty, AP is my favorite skills but on insanity, I feel it benefits more to have an extra power that can cover more bases. Eg reave.

[FredegarKadere]

Cryo Blast/Ammo only freezes enemies when on the health bar portion, so you will need to strip whatever protections the foe has. I didn't find Cryo Ammo all that handy on a normal playthrough so I dropped it entirely for my current insanity game.
The only time I have find the Cryo ammo helpful is when facing swarms of high health/low protection foes like husks, vorcha, and collectors when grouped with SMG happy squadmates.

Modifié par FredegarKadere, 11 février 2010 - 01:53 .

[tangofish]

Cryo ammo is one of, if not the, most under-rated powers in the game. Most people never even try it because they dismiss it due to the lack of bonus damage. It is, however, the single best CC power a soldier can have (including bonus powers). Put squad cryo ammo on your team mates, then switch your own ammo power to a different one and see the difference it makes, even on the highest difficulties.

[WillieStyle]

TheBestclass wrote...

Armor Piercing and Disruptor.

^ This.

[Atmosfear3]

I believe you can max a total of 5 skills as Shepard so for a soldier I'd recommend:



Armor piercing ammo

Adrenaline Rush

Combat Mastery

Incendiary ammo

Disruptor ammo



Cryo ammo isn't that useful unless you like to respec for each encounter.

[WillieStyle]

kennyme2 wrote...

TheBestclass wrote...

Armor Piercing and Disruptor.

I choose inferno over armor piercing because it stops health regen which I heard is a pretty big deal when taking out Vorcha and Krogan on Insanity. On any other difficulty, AP is my favorite skills but on insanity, I feel it benefits more to have an extra power that can cover more bases. Eg reave.

Meh, by the time you get down to health, all the hard work's been done already.  I'd rather just kill Krogen and Vorcha dead than stop their regen.  Tungsten Ammo >> Incindiary ammo in my opinion.  Even on Insanity. 

If you're really worried about regen, bring Jacob (early game), Grunt (mid to late game) or Jack along. 

[thisisme8]

Atmosfear3 wrote...

I believe you can max a total of 5 skills as Shepard so for a soldier I'd recommend:

Armor piercing ammo
Adrenaline Rush
Combat Mastery
Incendiary ammo
Disruptor ammo

Cryo ammo isn't that useful unless you like to respec for each encounter.

I would take the Cryo over the AP since you are also taking Incendiary.  There is a difference between AP and Incendiary, but they are sort of redundant in that they both are geared toward armor and health.  With Squad Cryo and Inferno Rounds, you'll be mopping up enemies while your Squadmates are passively CC'ing them with the Cryo.
Give it a shot, I'm sure you'll be surprised.

[kennyme2]

Alright, thanks a lot. I'll be using Squad cryo and Inferno on myself. The reason I was hesitant to go with cryo is because it doesn't have a bonus towards taking down defenses but I think that I can make do with warp/overload etc.



I really want to try something different so cryo it is.

[TheBestClass]

Remember that Concussive shot is effective against barriers. Think of it as your "anti-barrier" ammo.

[Graunt]

tangofish wrote...

Cryo ammo is one of, if not the, most under-rated powers in the game. Most people never even try it because they dismiss it due to the lack of bonus damage. It is, however, the single best CC power a soldier can have (including bonus powers). Put squad cryo ammo on your team mates, then switch your own ammo power to a different one and see the difference it makes, even on the highest difficulties.

Or, just get Warp ammo, turn it on for squardmates and outright kill things instead of having them pointlessly frozen.  Cryo is just a gimmick ammo and it's not underrated, you just have people claiming how great it is because they think it's cool to see things shatter.  Too bad the ammo does zilch for taking off shields, barriers and armor which is essentially the real life of the enemies on Insanity.

Remember that Concussive shot is effective against barriers. Think of it as your "anti-barrier" ammo.

I only have rank 2 conc shot right now, so maybe if I morph it to a stronger single target it will make a difference, but right now it barely takes off 1/5 of a barrier.  Seems like just using AR and doing headhots does more since it doesn't seem like you can aim conc shot, unless I'm just doing it wrong.

Modifié par Graunt, 11 février 2010 - 02:43 .

[Atmosfear3]

thisisme8 wrote...

Atmosfear3 wrote...

I believe you can max a total of 5 skills as Shepard so for a soldier I'd recommend:

Armor piercing ammo
Adrenaline Rush
Combat Mastery
Incendiary ammo
Disruptor ammo

Cryo ammo isn't that useful unless you like to respec for each encounter.

I would take the Cryo over the AP since you are also taking Incendiary.  There is a difference between AP and Incendiary, but they are sort of redundant in that they both are geared toward armor and health.  With Squad Cryo and Inferno Rounds, you'll be mopping up enemies while your Squadmates are passively CC'ing them with the Cryo.
Give it a shot, I'm sure you'll be surprised.

That is true, though I would still put at least one point in incendiary ammo, just for stopping regen.

I've actually been debating myself whether or not disruptor ammo is even worth using (heavy disruptor) on insanity on my infiltrator.  Seems like cryo ammo might be more useful since its damn near suicide to stay exposed while shooting.  I figure with squad cryo I would at least have some opportunities to put some fire down range with a few enemies frozen.