Machines Are Us wrote...
mjwoltsknar wrote...
i found it kind of obnoxious how she randomly joins you up on that raised platform when you're giving the speech to your team right before you fight the human-reaper. i was like "what. go back down and join the rest of the team, woman." but she just stood there and acted like she was important.
It was probably the way you worded it, but I laughed out loud at that.STG wrote...
drwells123 wrote...
enormousmoonboots wrote...
No,
I mean Miranda says something along the lines of "Really, Shepard? She
got both of the squads that she led killed." Stupid double pronouns.
Ouch. She made herself about 80 million mortal enemies (i.e. Tali fans) with that line.
Tali did get both of her squads killed. If Tali fans can't see that, then they're completely blind.
I agree that she wouldn't be the right choice for picking as a team leader, but she didn't exactly get her teams killed in either situation.
In the first, they ran off to stop Cerberus, admittedly that shows she didn't have their loyalty to the extent that she should have. They disobeyed her because she was willing to work alongside Cerberus Operatives, but to be fair, if you asked Tali to shoot a Quarian do you really think she'd do it, despite how charismatic Shepard is supposed to be?
In the second case I do not recall seeing anything to suggest that the deaths were due to any mistakes Tali
made, they gave their lives to protect her because of who she was. Correct me if I am wrong.
I agree with this.
Honestly though... Tali isnt a military leader, She is a civilian "scientist/engineer," Great for a team lead outside of combat. (head engineer or perhaps advisor) She would probably do alright as an admiral, considering their largely political role.
As for her failed leadership.. In the first event they were not sent for any combat, they were a search team. I doubt any of them were actual military, and if they were they are either green or just plain terrible at their jobs. The team ran off ignoring orders, rushed blindly to veetor and end up getting killed in a very avoidable way. If they werent in such a rush like hotheads they could have at least held out till help arrived.
In the second case Tali was "in charge" but she didnt actually lead. That was Kal's job. Tali was just supposed to get the data. So she would point out where she needed to go, and kal would work it out from there.
Thats its. It would be up to kal whether to attack, or to fall back, or whatever tactical strategy is needed to get tali to the data. Hell in this case it was more like they were bodyguards, and you dont command bodyguards. At least not if you want them to do their job properly.
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