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[Barrendall]

I kind of hope I get to keep the whole band of ME2 together to be honest. I don't see how dying in the suicide mission affects ME3 since they start you with a new character. In my mind that means they treat you as if you didn't die and they set up your backstory for you. If I'm wrong about this I'm wrong. I just like the cast of ME2 and I think they made the best cuts from the cast of ME1.

[klossen4]

liara was destroyed for me in me2 so no thanks.

[Dethateer]

I honestly hope Garrus and Tali show up again. I actually liked all of them (can't even hate Jack after you talk to her), but there's no way in hell they're all staying, unfortunately. Though it would be cool to be given a limited amount of slots and recruit whomever you want from both old and new squad.

[KBGeller]

According to BioWare staff:

Dusty Everman wrote...

Jeremy Winston wrote...

I
will agree that inviting her up to your room is pretty questionable,
but everything up that is nothing more than some, perhaps, inappropriate
flirting.

I agree.  In YOUR game more could have
happened during that fade-to-black,  but we wouldn't assume that to
be the case with respect to how it may or may not affect anything in
ME3.  What happened during dinner is between you and Kelly.

And
NO, I am not implying anything about what might happen in ME3.  We
haven't even started working on smaller details.  Will Kelly even be in
ME3 or not?  I don't know.  A big part of what guides us is the feedback
and telemetry of what players find popular.

This is a bit out of context, but reading the last paragraph we see:

Dusty Everman wrote...
 A big part of what guides us is the feedback
and telemetry of what players find popular.

As such, if a character is popular enough, it is likely they will make a return. Since this is a work of fiction, there are any number of possible ways to make this happen for everyone.

[Hepzi3]

I would be more than fine with Ashley and Garrus back.



Tali, Miranda and Grunt are all just bonuses. I loved them, great characters, But I could deal with Grunt going on to become head of some Krogan Army or something(Actually, that would be pretty cool.)



I do expect Miranda to be back though, Just because I feel that all LI's will be back, but some not necessarily as squad mates. (I think Tali would become an Admiral, Especially if that crazy Admiral gets killed, which I expect to happen.)

[Avissel]

reading most of that made my head hurt. But lets just cover this one.

(as canon choices are always renegade whenever there is no neutral option, and recruiting Legion is a paragon choice)

No, they aren't. You based this off the "no import" Shepard. This is not "cannon" Shepard, ME has no "cannon" version of the first game. the "default" is a neutral play through which is neither paragon nor renegade.



The only characters that have built in logical reasons for them not to return are Thane and Mordin. Mordin is 50, which makes him very old by Salarian standards, and Thane himself proclaims he only has a few months to live.

[Fatal34Frame]

I'm sure there also is a setting that would allow Tali to stay on the normandy crew but I'll let the fanboys duke it out who's gonna stay on the team and who isn't ,-) (I'm a Tali fan thou so GO TALI GOOOOOO)

[Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien]

Shatakai wrote...

I personally think Bioware played things too safely in ME2. They need to take a stand and say "If you're team survived the suicide mission, you'll be able to recruit a decent amount of them again in ME3. If they died, that's just too damn bad for you. This is your story, and in your story, so-and-so died. You simply won't have a squadmate that others might have."

I don't understand what you are getting at? They didn't play it safe in ME2.

If you killed wrex on Virimire (or didn't even bother recruiting him) he isn't in ME2. Whomever you sacrificed on Virimire out of Ash and Kaiden isn't in ME2 either.

They actually have got a tougher task this time around, because once Kasumi becomes available you wouldn't need to recruit Thane, Samara or Tali (only need 8 party members), so besides the suicide mission deaths there is the recruitment side of things to take into account as well.

[Iokastos]

just give me Tali, Garrus and Mordin and I'll be happy

[newcomplex]

Unless Bioware ignores peoples ME2 endgames, garrus is as problematic as any squadmate, because he can die.

[Archereon]

Gill Kaiser: Precisely, she might have a role going above a simple cameo, but there's no way a character who has so many ways to not appear in ME3 (via her built in write out, the possibility of players not recruiting her intentionally or accidentally, and the fact that she is significantly more likely to die than Garrus in the suicide mission.)

[Cutlass Jack]

Archereon wrote...

Gill Kaiser: Precisely, she might have a role going above a simple cameo, but there's no way a character who has so many ways to not appear in ME3 (via her built in write out, the possibility of players not recruiting her intentionally or accidentally, and the fact that she is significantly more likely to die than Garrus in the suicide mission.)

Tali is not significantly more likely to die in the mission. Don't be silly. Put Garrus in the Tube and tell me what his life expectancy is compared to Tali.

[KBGeller]

newcomplex wrote...

Unless Bioware ignores peoples ME2 endgames, garrus is as problematic as any squadmate, because he can die.

Yes and no. With my previous post, BioWare is just looking at popularity for the most part. If a character is popular enough, they will likely return.

After all, ressurection is clearly possible if funds are there, so there are possible ways to get characters back if they died.

[Gill Kaiser]

According to popularity alone, I think we'll probably see Mordin and Garrus back, and hopefully Tali.

[halO bendeR]

Well as others have mentioned, Bioware will have a riot on their hands if Tali'Zorah doesn't return. I for one don't care if she's a squad member so long as she has as much dialogue as one

I think it's important that Bioware not be lazy with ME3.
It was pretty obvious (through process of elimination) which squadmembers from ME1 would return in the same capacity for ME2, as there were only three that for sure made it out alive. No one really faults Bioware for taking the 'easy rout' then, but now, if they don't include potentially dead squadmates in ME3 it could prove to be a costly mistake.
If they thought the fan reaction to learning the ME1 LIs were not recruitable in ME2 was bad, that's nothing compared to the reaction fans will have if none of the ME2 characters return.

Besides, if you asked fans who'd they rather see return, Kaidan/Ashley or Tali, we all know who would win

Modifié par halO bendeR, 11 février 2010 - 05:10 .

[Archereon]

Another thing...I'm guessing that BioWare would, if it could without massive fan backlash, avoid bringing back any ME2 squadmates as ME3 squaddies, since that would be the easiest way to insure everyone, even new players, get to experience the majority of the game.

And yes, by canon Shepard, I refer to non-import Shepard, who makes renegade choices whenever there is no neutral option (ex: default shepard kills Rachni queen, kills Wrex, kills the council and puts Udina on it.)

Modifié par Archereon, 11 février 2010 - 05:10 .

[Seventh H3ll]

I think having Garrus and Tali in the third will had a certain amount of continuity that not even Liara/Ashley/Kaidan/Wrex can provide. And for Tali's write out...maybe she doesn't join the admiralty board right away. Write outs are not guaranteed.

[Sledgehammer44mm]

You know this is kind of sad...

To be honest if you save said teammates how in the world are they not going to be in Mass Effect 3 in some form or another?

The only thing I care about is who will be in my squad in the next game.

I hope everyone can be used in the battlefield in my unit such as Miranda & Ashley along with Liara & Samara.

As I always say more women = better....

[Sledgehammer44mm]

halO bendeR wrote...

Well as others have mentioned, Bioware will have a riot on their hands if Tali'Zorah doesn't return. I for one don't care if she's a squad member so long as she has as much dialogue as one

I think it's important that Bioware not be lazy with ME3.
It was pretty obvious (through process of elimination) which squadmembers from ME1 would return in the same capacity for ME2, as there were only three that for sure made it out alive. No one really faults Bioware for taking the 'easy rout' then, but now, if they don't include potentially dead squadmates in ME3 it could prove to be a costly mistake.
If they thought the fan reaction to learning the ME1 LIs were not recruitable in ME2 was bad, that's nothing compared to the reaction fans will have if none of the ME2 characters return.

Besides, if you asked fans who'd they rather see return, Kaidan/Ashley or Tali, we all know who would win

Yeah, Ashley hands down.

[Sledgehammer44mm]

It would be a sad day in the gaming world if Bioware catered to only a certain group of fans over all the others.

[DirtyVagrant]

I'm sure why everyone thinks Tali will become an admiral. Some quarians want it, sure, but she's only 24 and last time she led people on a mission... most of them died, so... yeah, no. Not enough experience to have a position of that stature and responsibility.

[deusofnull]

Archereon wrote...

Garrus...

Why?  Out of every squadmate, he's most likely to be on your team and alive at the end of the game, and he's a fan favorite.

Now don't get me wrong, I'd like Tali and Legion to be ME3 squadmates as well, but both of them, especially Legion, have major issues preventing them from getting on the squad.

Tali is in the second wave of dossiers, meaning she's not necessarily on the team at the end of the game, and is therefore out.  Backing this up is the fact that she has a potential write out (becoming one of the admirals/going on a quest or something to regain her stature among the Quarian people), is easy enough to kill in the suicide mission, and you can loose her loyalty (legion/tali fight), there's no virtually no chance at all of her appearing as a squaddie.

Legion has an even bigger obstacle than Tali for getting onto the squad: canon Shepard doesn't have him (as canon choices are always renegade whenever there is no neutral option, and recruiting Legion is a paragon choice), and he's on the second wave of recruitments, so he's out.

The rest of the squadmates have a potential write out in their plot, are easy to kill in the suicide mission, are disliked, or have similar issues to Legion and Tali.

Grunt doesn't HAVE to be awakened so he's out.

Thane's illness is a built in write out, and he's in the second (optional) wave of dossiers.

Samara/Mornith's departure is easy to justify, and they're both optional and highly variable.

Mordin dies a lot in the suicide mission, so he's out.

You can loose Jack/Miranda's loyalty, meaning they're out. 

Zaeed/Kasumi are DLC.  'nuff said.

Nobody likes Jacob, and following his suggestion to send him into the ducts gets him killed.

(Blasto is a joke)


So there you have it, Garrus is the only character with fans that's unlikely to die and is mandatory to recruit.

Sorry to rain on the parades of you hopefuls...:crying::crying:

I think Shepard will return.
= P

[Valmy]

Archereon wrote...

Why?  Out of every squadmate, he's most likely to be on your team and alive at the end of the game, and he's a fan favorite.

Huh?  He is just likely to be alive and on your team as much as anybody else.

And Bioware better not let fan favoritism influence how they design their games.  Talk about making everything boring and predictable.

[Cutlass Jack]

DirtyVagrant wrote...

I'm sure why everyone thinks Tali will become an admiral. Some quarians want it, sure, but she's only 24 and last time she led people on a mission... most of them died, so... yeah, no. Not enough experience to have a position of that stature and responsibility.

Also its not a position passed down family lines, and has never been the captain of a ship, which is somewhat required I'd think. Furthermore, she doesn't actually want the job.

If it happens, it will be something that happens in the Post-ME3 game when discussing where the Team went from there.