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[Marta Rio]

TyDurden13 wrote...

Archereon wrote...

DirewolfX: Don't have the exact link (found it on the forums), but I believe it was an IGN interview. its also been pulled up again and again around the forums, so it wasn't an isolated incident.

Actually the quote I see getting pulled up again and again is this one (from Casey Hudson w/r/t ME3 planning):

"I think the biggest thing is first of all the resolution of all the plots, all the decisions players have made throughout. Being able to play and experience all the surviving cast members, all the characters people liked. That’s one big part of it.

The other part though is really down to the feedback we’ll get from fans having played Mass Effect 2. That’s going to be our biggest focus is understanding the way people play our games and trying to make them better based on what they say about them. "

Link Here

This one seems to indicate they do intend to being the ME2 cast back.  Now that doesn't mean there will be no new squadmates either.

Yeah, the whole "being able to play" part of it seems fairly good evidence that they intend to bring the squadmates back as squadmates, although I suppose there could be some room for interpretation, and a lot can happen in a 2+ year development time.  But other than a statement by the devs saying "all the squadmates in ME1 and ME2 will be available as squadmates in ME3," I think this is as close as we're going to get for a while.

[PiercedMonk]

There's plenty the 'Mass Effect 2' squadmates could be doing to help Shepard that wouldn't involve being squadmates.

Miranda and Jacob could be off organising Cerberus cells to prepare for the reaper invasion. Tali could be doing the same with the quarians, Legion with the geth. Mordin would be better off in a lab analyzing data and trying to find a weakness to exploit. Thane has excellent infiltration skills, and could be gathering information. Garrus could be putting together a second team just in case Shepard's squad fails. Jack could be set up as pirate queen of the Terminus Systems, preparing to lead a fleet of cut-throats and ne'er-do-wells against the reapers.

Each of them could play a significant role in the story without being part of Shepard's squad.

[DarkSmart]

Phil725 wrote...

I'm not sure why everyone is assuming another 2 year or so plot break between ME2 and ME3. Just because it happened last time doesn't mean it will happen again.

The way I see it, the third game is just as likely to pick up a week after the suicide mission than it is years in the future. It's better from a character perspective. Thane's still alive, as is Mordin (he's 50 in the first game and a salarian over 40 is rare,) and Tali isn't an admiral.

You also wouldn't need to spend 75% of the game recruiting. I would have a hard time believing that your entire crew will just say "yeah, I know the reapers are coming, but I want to go hang out on the citadel instead." It will require much more convoluted reasons than Liara's obsession and Ashley/Kaiden being alliance mind slaves. If they do end up coming up with ridiculously stupid reasons to get rid of the entire ME2 team, it will seriously taint my view of the game. And I definitely don't want the Normandy blown up again in the first 5 minutes just to kill off the entire ME2 team.

Plus look at it this way, which side is better; Have Tali/Garrus as a squad member, and have a dead/alive flag. Or have Tali/Garrus on a random planet, write an entirely new quarian/turian squad member, and spend a lot of money on fireproofing/bulletproofing buildings.

It seems like an easy choice to me.

I agree. We've spent so much time recruiting the ME2 team, I can't believe something like that will happen again. There will be probably a few new characters for all those heroes who got their complete team killed, but I suppose the rest only depends on your choices in ME2. If a character is alive, he will return, if he's dead, you must face the consequences of your decisions.

[julian08]

Since it is the last part of the trilogy, I doubt that BW is going to introduce completely new characters. They spend two games building up emotions for the squatmembers we know. Taking almost every character away and replacing them with characters we don't know or care about would be like saying: "Here are your teammates. Get to know them. Love them! You like them? Good. . . NOW FORGET THEM! You won't see them EVER again. Here are a few total strangers for you to like. And you better start liking them soon, because this is the last ME game."
I think in ME3, BW will try to make us feel like every choice we made during the games matters - including who lived and who died during the suicide mission. And about paying voice actors for characters that some players will never have in their squat - in Dragon Age you could tell almost every character you encountered to **** off and die, or even kill them, and you would never hear most of the voice acting BW paid for.

[redguppie]

most likely to return? Any that haven't died.

For every new squad member you have to add a brand new backstory.  Not just any kind of backstory either but one which actually gets the players to have a vested interest in those characters themselves. That is alot of time/energy/money for something that already exists in the game universe itself.  how much time did you spend gaining your squad and gaining their loyalty compared to actualy fighting  the enemy?

As for saying that it is to much work to bring back all the squad who might die?  you have I think 16 characters in the ME universe that have been playable.

Ashley/kiaden= 1 is dead
liara = chasing a info broker
wrex = king of a dirt world
garrus= nowhere to go
miranda= quit, nowhere to go
jacob= TIM stated at the begining that he disagreed with them on some of thier activities(can't recall the entire quote)
mordin= several ways out actually, go back to clinc work as resident tech, dead, or active member
grunt= following clan or battlemaster, but he likes the enemies shepard lines up
jack= likes to break stuff and kill people name a better place to be, but also stated once mission is over she has some people to kill
thane = dried out lizard not long for this galaxy
samara/morinth= one will look for justice the other for her next fix
legion= sent to find you and now your found
zeed= paid for a job
tali= either kicked off the fleet or in good with her people
based on that I would say definite group to return is
Ash/kiaden
liara
garrus
miranda
jacub
grunt
legion
tali

possibles
mordin
jack

even if you include every one of those you still have 2 less than the 12 in ME and you gain all that disk space from not having to write recruitment missions and loyalty missions(at the very least you would have to include a recruitment mission for each new character).  the profile rendering is already done for all these characters and you know who you are going to use for the voices. 

Finally every RPG style game has tons of additional script included in case it is useful.  As has been stated repeatedly many of the people in THIS GAME were unnessesary to finish it, but that didn't stop them from including those characters. 

[TyDurden13]

Here is another interesting piece of information I found on Destructoid from two days ago:

"Because I missed him I assumed that he was something of a hidden character, a minor piece of the Mass Effect puzzle that wouldn't do much for Mass Effect 3. He will, though, according to Hudson. But there's a small catch embedded in his message about Legion's importance -- the team will keep tabs on which characters people are using the most in their playthroughs.

'We’re deep in spoiler territory, but yes, he’s a significant character even though he’s totally optional.  As with all characters, your decisions regarding Legion will carry forward into the next game. One thing we’re going to keep an eye on is how people make use of each of the characters in Mass Effect 2. That will influence our decisions on the importance of those characters in the ongoing story into Mass Effect 3.'"

Interesting.  Emphasis mine.

ETA: emphasis

Modifié par TyDurden13, 11 février 2010 - 07:24 .

[McBeath]

I'm sure they'll all be there... just because they CAN die doesn't mean they'll be removed from ME3... Shepard CAN die, but will anybody actually import that file. I'm sure the same goes for squadmates. You want to play YOUR Shepard, and you'll want YOUR team.



Really, it's not hard to template a character into combat. The dialog is mostly interchangable, with the odd quirk. It's harder to script the dialog for the loyalty/recruit missions, but look at Chakwas/Joker/Kelly on the Normandy. You get a lot of good dialog from them, but thier not recruitable. If they spent the time on them you'll definately see them spend the time on YOUR team to include them in the 3rd installment.



I think 'redguppie' has it spot on.... they've got the background out of the way for a lot of people now, you know who they are and why they fight. I think the 3rd will be more about actually taking the fight to the enemy, not recruiting a team. They clearly planned this out from the beginning.