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[Mole267]

Does going renegade make Shepard's eyes red? It's over 70% renegade.



At first in ME2, Shepard's eyes were violet, but not glowing red. It was an imported character from ME1, eyes were brown in ME1.

Here's a larger picture.

Just wanted to know if it's normal, thanks. And if so, does that mean Shepard's eyes glow blue with high paragon?

Modifié par Mole267, 11 février 2010 - 05:16 .

[Murmillos]

Yes.. going renegade causes extreme scarring and eyes to start to glow red.



But you can due the medical thing to remove it all, but sadly, it removes EVERYTHING.



Personally, I think about 25-40% renegade gives Shepard a little bit of character.

[Mole267]

Ahh cool. I think I'll keep Shepard like that, it's like the dark side of the Force.

[Veryth]

They don't glow blue with high paragon, but I swear I see blue highlights every now and then that do not match the lighting.

[Invalidcode]

Veryth wrote...

They don't glow blue with high paragon, but I swear I see blue highlights every now and then that do not match the lighting.

The glowing blue eyes went to the Grey Warden from the DA:O trailers.

[DirewolfX]

Shepard is a Reaper sent from the future to protect the future leader of the resistance... Conrad Verner.

[piperone]

DirewolfX wrote...

Shepard is a Reaper sent from the future to protect the future leader of the resistance... Conrad Verner.

Best post I've read in a long time.  Conrad is the best comic relief, ever.

dh

[tykfa1990]

Erm, it reminds me of Illusive man's eyes. Maybe he is so much a paragon he's got a flashy blue eyes? XD

Edit: I won't belive my own theory no matter what.

Modifié par tykfa1990, 11 février 2010 - 09:40 .

[FLP13]

wzup if you go all paragon? .. renegade looks awesome though, but still.. im going kinda 50/50

[DirewolfX]

You look normal if you're full Paragon.

[Divide Overflow]

Evidently virtue is it's own reward.

[Urazz]

Murmillos wrote...

Yes.. going renegade causes extreme scarring and eyes to start to glow red.

But you can due the medical thing to remove it all, but sadly, it removes EVERYTHING.

Personally, I think about 25-40% renegade gives Shepard a little bit of character.

Actually, you gotta have quite a bit more renegade points over paragon points.  My main playthrough had Shepard never really going too far away from the beginning stages of the Renegade change where the scars start healing badly and they get a hint of red in them.  At the end of the game though, the paragon meter started to get a bit ahead of the renegade meter and so ended up with the scars starting to heal nicely but still showing and he lost the partial red in his eyes.

[Mole267]

After going even more renegade, Shepard's eyes appear to have the same patterns as Illusive Man's... Except red, of course. They don't have as much plain glow, and there's definition.

[GlassRain]

still think you should have at last got blue glowing eyes for going paragon and left the med upgrade to remove it if you didn't like it. going paragon isn't as fun as renegade if only because of the epic facial features.

[binaryemperor]

I think ParaShep should sprout angel wings and a biotic halo.

[gauntz]

I think infiltrators, engineers and sentinels should have the option of getting eye implants that look like the Illusive Man's, with a small bonus. And it would be cool if doing something as a biotic could make your conversations completely schizophrenic from Shepard's side.

[GlassRain]

binaryemperor wrote...

I think ParaShep should sprout angel wings and a biotic halo.

/signed:innocent:

[Revenant_Mortalus]

binaryemperor wrote...

I think ParaShep should sprout angel wings and a biotic halo.

Yeah, and he needs a dog to follow him, plus the ability to marry anyone we see and have kids with them.  Just kidding, I'm gonna guess that your post wasn't entirely serious anyway.  It woulda been nice to see some kinda cosmetic effect for going paragon, but the way they've done it they've managed to give it a nice "in story" explanation and it works quite well...

[Kanong]

I know it's complete speculation, but remember Saren? he had the same eyes as the Illusive Man. Also he was grafted with Geth cybernetics by Sovereign so I always thought those eyes symbolized some sort of a consequence of a Reaper's indoctrination. If you think about it, Shepard was "rebuilt" by the Illusive Man (with cybernetics) and the renegade path is mostly doing what the Illusive Man wants you to do...and the more you do so, the more you follow his "doctrine", your eyes become like Saren's...

The Illusive Man also implies that he didn't "want" to put a control device on Shepard...perhaps he didn't need it at all...

Going Paragon wouldn't have an effect on you since Shepard would be actually fighting against indoctrination...like Saren's end in ME1.

Just a thought...

Modifié par Kanong, 14 février 2010 - 06:58 .

[Tankfriend]

That is a fairly unlikely speculation though, I'm afraid.

First and foremost, the eyes are quite different.
Saren has eyes more akin to those of husks - entirely blue with metal around them. And that is a look even the "advanced" husks in ME2 still have.
TIM on the other hand seems to have a distinct blue pattern on his iris (especially note the three distinct "dots" on his iris, they are rarely visible because of his eyelids) but apart from that the rest at least looks normal.
Here are two pictures for a comparison.

http://na.llnet.biow...ve_man-02-p.jpg

http://xbox360media....11012327079.jpg

Apart from that, there is no reason to believe that TIM is indoctrinated so far, simply because of what he does in the main story.
1) He resurrects Shepard.
2) He rebuilds the Normandy.
3) He provides all necessary data for Shepard to recruit a powerful team.
4) Combine 1-3 and he makes it possible for Shepard to attack and either destroy or capture the Collector base which inevitably stops the construction of the Human Reaper which in turn foils another plan of the Reapers to return.
5) In case you capture the base and TIM sends in Cerberus vessels he has quite a satisfied look. If you destroy it, he is pretty much ****** off.

Especially if you look at 4) it becomes quite unlikely that TIM is indoctrinated: He has made it possible for the Reapers archenemy to foil yet another of their plans to return to the galaxy. If he really were indoctrinated it would have been much simpler for TIM to just leave Shepard to rot and (covertly) support the Collectors to finish their new Reaper and then go ahead with whatever they had planned for that. That would also fit in with the Reapers apparently only working on one plan at the same time - just look at the Collectors: It appears that they only started building the new Reaper after Sovereign was destroyed. A similar thing seems to be true for destroying the Collectors: Only after that do the Reapers look for yet another way (as Harbinger said to the Collector General: "We will find another way!").

Also he was grafted with Geth cybernetics by Sovereign so I always thought those eyes symbolized some sort of a consequence of a Reaper's indoctrination.

Look at Matriarch Benezia from ME1 - she was indoctrinated (albeit she could fight it from time to time) but she apparently did not receive any cybernetics, at least none that were openly visible. So cybernetics in and of themselves (even cybernetic eyes) are no sure sign for indoctrination.

The Illusive Man also implies that he didn't "want" to put a control device on Shepard...perhaps he didn't need it at all...

Miranda mentions that TIM did not want to implant Shepard with a control chip because he feared that that chip would have an impact on Shepards personality, memories etc. which would be detrimental to TIMs aim of bringing Shepard back as exactly the same person from before death. That said, it is stated multiple times throughout the games that mind control and similar things (indoctrination first and foremost, of course) lead to a decay of higher mental functions. That decay in turn forces you at one point to apply control devices in order to preserve at least parts of the mental functions - which TIM obviously decided against, so even here indoctrination seems to be out of the question.

Going Paragon wouldn't have an effect on you since Shepard would be actually fighting against indoctrination...like Saren's end in ME1.

We did not see any kind of "mental fight" between Shepard and indoctrination, though. That is something one should be able to notice, I guess. Especially if you take a look at the Cerberus scientists on the derelict Reaper who suddenly began to have similar thoughts, see illusions etc.
And concerning Sarens fight against indoctrination: Sure, Shepard has his miraculous "charm/intimidate" ability, but even then it was rather apparent that Saren still needed a lot of effort to fight indoctrination. Even so he decided on shooting himself because he probably would not have been able to fend off indoctrination forever - especially as he received a lot of Reaper implants as we can see at the end of ME1.

Modifié par Tankfriend, 14 février 2010 - 08:12 .

[Nishmaet]

The evil-red-rip-your-throat-out eyes are superb. And yes, you need to have a lot more renegade than paragon for the full effect. The full effect looks eerily like TIM's - your pupil is a red spot and you get 3 smaller ones around it on your iris - pretty much like TIM's blue pupil with blue circles on iris, although Shep's are less clear cut. It looks particularly evil with Shep standing in the shadow, only the silhouette visible... and red glowing eyes staring at you telling you you are about to die