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[_Aine_]

I would love to roam aimlessly in desserts. Today I am thinking of a good trifle in fact. * ponders * Anything that involves cake, I am in. Or cookies. Or nanaimo bars. Yum. I wish more people would sully their reputations for a good dessert.

[the_one_54321]

imported_beer wrote...

Tsuga C wrote...
And you said that people found you boring!  

Yeah...that is kind of old fashioned these days with all the more interesting nuts around.
That said.
On Mr. Gaider.
There was a time when the DAO boards were more active with developer comments. Other writers posted, other developers posted. I think much of it was because even if you disagreed with what he said, or they said, the differences were not expressed in heated, condescending or unprofessional terms.  If we didn't like his romance idea- we'd say "It is not our style, we prefer 2#$%" instead of "yo gaider you suxxors and don't know how to write."
If we felt Sheryl said something inexplicable, we'd ask her why. We didn't brand her sexist by default.
That kind of thing that is basically indicative of treating writers and developers as professionals and human beings worthy of courtesy, and not as our personal wish fulfilment machines that we can speak to abusively.
We benefited a LOT from these interactions because for one, we got insights into the motivations of these characters, the setting they created, little nuggets about the world that made it much richer when we actually played it because we could understand what the writers were thinking when they wrote it.
Today, it seems like Mr. Gaider is one of the very few who still ventures out here to communicate. Despite the horrible way some people have chosen to express your disappointment or disillusionment instead of doing so maturely. He knows more about the game and the characters than most people here, so I'd say what he has a lot of value to add especially to those of us who are open minded and curious about lore, setting and characters.
The thought that someone could dub him as "annoying" is just incomprehensible to me.

How dare you speak in such reasonable, comprehensible, and comprehensive terms!? You just completely ruined everyones perceptions of life, the universe and everything. 

<_<

[Sylvius the Mad]

imported_beer wrote...

There was a time when the DAO boards were more active with developer comments.

That time is called "during development".

I find I prefer that time.  I love playing the game, sure, but discussing game development more abstractly leads to some excellent insights.

[danielsun1]

wait he broke your heart?





are you morrigan?

[Chromie]

Justin2k wrote...

When I was playing WoW, one of the developers spoke on their forums. And everytime he did, usually to post some harmless change or suggestion, people went crazy at him. He generated a lot of emotions just for posting in his own time and trying to add a depth to the forum and community.

Eventually he made a post to say it seemed he was doing more harm than good. And everyone who was complaining about him just 5 minutes before were "omg, like who's going to do your job now? noone? but wait... don't go..."

Was just funny. These guys are game developers, they are real people and they post here to benefit us. As long as they don't say anything that can get them fired, its surely better to have them than not, even if you don't always like/agree with what they have to say?

Sometimes I feel sorry for Ghostcrawler....

[NvVanity]

I'm all for David's witty remarks. It helps keep balance around here and keep the complaints down. Ever see the Infinity Ward forums, no dev's go in there and it's complaint central.



Quite frankly I wish the dev's posted more in the ME2 forums to deal with the nonstop "Bioware lame, they won't let me take off my Terminus Armor helmet that I got for free" threads.

[danielsun1]

lol, i probably wont be able to follow as well as i liked as i am relatively new to the DAO forums, played Baldurs Gates and loved it, play and keep playing DAO as i cant get enough of it but only joined the forums earlier this month or last month i think lol, but from what i gather he is the maker and you are the prophet, i hope by andrastes blood he takes you for his bride and you live happily ever after

[Curlain]

imported_beer wrote...


That kind of thing that is basically indicative of treating writers and developers as professionals and human beings worthy of courtesy, and not as our personal wish fulfilment machines that we can speak to abusively.

.

I agree, but, can't I have a wish fulfillment machine as well (maybe there will be one in Awakenings ) :P

[danielsun1]

oooooo the mad prophet, well i will gladly serve you in some form of mad exhalted march (although imo these marches seem like the crusades to me )



you have my sword!

[DarthRomance]

I like Gaider. The haters are just whiners. If you want to be 100% loved and spoiled, get off the internet and go spend time with your mom.

[danielsun1]

high five for Darth Romance

[Vaeliorin]

Sylvius the Mad wrote...

imported_beer wrote...
There was a time when the DAO boards were more active with developer comments.

That time is called "during development".

I find I prefer that time.  I love playing the game, sure, but discussing game development more abstractly leads to some excellent insights.

Me too.  Thought that might have had a lot to do with the boards having a much higher collective intelligence then.

Anyway, I love David Gaider's posts.  Heck, I even enjoyed the times I've been on the firing end of his verbal shotgun.  I particularly like that he posts like an actual person instead of as a PR spigot.  Honestly, the forums would be much less interesting without the devs posting here, and I sincerely doubt that I'd have spent as much time on the DA forums as I have without them being around.

[NetBeansAndJava]

Any official feedback is good feedback, imo. Even if an official post is insulting, it at least indicates that they are paying attention to the community, which is more than many companies can claim.



Also David is fine. I remember some mods on the WoW forums that just were flat out mean. The mod I'm thinking of started nice, but as time progressed, I guess his patience died out b/c he was bitterly sarcastic toward just about anything.

[Sylvius the Mad]

That's the thing. Often David's feedback isn't "official BioWare feedback". It's just David speaking his mind while he waits for a build to compile.

That's why we like him so much.

[MassEffect762]

David Gaider, the man laughing all the way to the bank.

*The Rolling Stones - Sympathy for the Devil, plays in the background*

Modifié par MassEffect762, 12 février 2010 - 01:29 .

[melkathi]

imported_beer wrote...

 the cat owner

Every cat person knows:
you can not own a cat.

[killingsheep24]

His not on the A team at bioware, that's for sure.

[Ex-Paladin]

100% Gaider supporter

[TheRealIncarnal]

I think it's a good thing that David Gaider and other members of Bioware are actually members of our community there instead of just "lording" over it as mods who only interact with us to bring wrath.



I think we've got quite a nice little thing going here.

[JKJEDIKNIGHT]

I've had my out with Gaid as I think he is a little harsh, and his customer relations needs work, I do however respect him, and the work he does, and the fact that he does come here on his "free time" as he so often reminds us of lol.

[hexaligned]

JKJEDIKNIGHT wrote...

I've had my out with Gaid as I think he is a little harsh, and his customer relations needs work, I do however respect him, and the work he does, and the fact that he does come here on his "free time" as he so often reminds us of lol.

Hey now, don't be suggesting people shouldn't troll forums during work hours.  It's one of the reason I can muster the motivation to get up and brave the cold at 5 am.

[TripLight]

When I first peeked in on these forums, I was pretty much flabbergasted that the Devs and Writers also posted here. I have never seen developers take such a personal turn into the fanbase before. It appealed to me immensely. It showed me that they CARED about what they were putting forth. They got me, hook, line, and sinker.

I always look forward to David's, Cheryl's, and Mary's posts, because they always offer insight into the game, and sometimes give you a hint at looking at something differently ingame. They are the Lore-makers.

Mr. Gaider, I salute you for your contributions here, and I look forward to reading many more. Spanking or otherwise informative posts.

Edit: For Brain-Fartage

Modifié par TripLight, 12 février 2010 - 02:04 .