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[CaribWarrior J]

Gaider is cool.

[Sabriana]

Ahh, the old forums. The waiting, the guessing games, devs coming in to tweak our noses... *sigh*



Yeah, Gaider can be a bit snarky, but usually he is the one snarking back, not the snark-starter. He and the other writers are proud of their work, and what's wrong with that? And I do like a sense of humor that's a big wicked. Like hiding my daughters penguin figurines in our freezer. What? I thought it was funny, and the penguins didn't complain.



Greywardens.com is a pretty good site. One controversial piece of writing does not a bad site make.

[Mlai00]

I've seen Gaider post here a couple of times. I've never found him to lack netiquette. Sometimes he's not super-polite, but neither was he offensive or condescending.

The man is not your waiter. Get over it.

[RetrOldSchool]

That's what makes these forums so good, the dev-posts. I haven't seen any posts that have been uncalled for.

[dreadz10]

Now I didnt read the full article but I have been reading others posts about David, all I have to say is I was reading his novels before I came on this site and then i saw a post from him.

I thought that was awesome! Its actually what has me checking back on the forums time to time.

[SurfaceBeneath]

Gaider wins.



Fatality.

[Time Spiral]

Funny Story?


Who doesn't love a funny story, right? I wrote a critical review of DAO's weakest elements, posted, and got substantially flamed for it - as to be expected. I like Bioware, and their games, quite a bit, but at the time not enough to "know the players by their jersey numbers" so-to-speak.

I post a link to the article on this forum (after accidentally posting it to the ME forum ... whoa. Not pretty!). Inevitably, one of the Mods chimed in. And naturally, I have this horribly twisted, unjustified, and stereotypical view of your classic "forum mod". So I nod, thank, and banter as per usual. This view is triggered by that little Bio-ish "Mod" logo underneath the handle.

Then this other mod posts a comment. It seemed fairly well articulated, more so than usual from the semi-official mods you'd expect. I read, contemplated, and ultimately disagreed on some of the finer points. The mystery mod responded, and because we're not exactly sitting across a coffee table here, we didn't exactly see eye to eye. We both missed the boat a little bit, but still paddled our way to shore with a few points.

Then I realized his handle was not some crazy convoluted handle, like "shizzlfy-dragonLaserMonster", and the little Bio-ish icon said "Bioware" and not "Moderator". Hmmm ... I squint, read the name a little closer, and think to myself, who is this "David Gaider" fella?

HA! A quick Google later and I think to myself, "You know, I probably would have done that particular string of responses slightly differently ... oh well."

[tomas819]

I have been consistently impressed by and appreciative of the posts from all of the "Bioware" folks, not just Mr. Gaider, but all the others as well. I frankly do not know how they remain as pleasant as they do in the face of the juvenile ranting and carping that occasionally goes on in these forums.

I certainly hope they continue to post and make their presence felt. When I come to the forum here, it is generally their posts that I gravitate to first.

I think, fundamentally, that they recognize that the vast majority of the people posting here (whether critical of the game or not) really do love the game, the lore, the whole DA:O world (or they wouldn't be here).

I like the fact that, not only is the game "interactive" with the player(s) -- so is the company. I really hope that continues, silly "nuisance" blogs like the one at greywardens.com notwithstanding. Incidentally, I generally like that site, though sometimes, as in this case, I think they "scrape" a bit to come up with new material.

[SeanMurphy2]

I don't think he is some kind of Bioware defender.



He seems to be able to relate to us on our level. As though he is just another fan talking about the game or any issue that interests him.



I suppose it is less intimidating to feel like one of us. For some developers, posting on official messageboards may seem like stepping onto a stage to give a speech to a large unpredictable crowd.

[worksa8]

Seems like just another guy with his own views on things, nothing wrong with that. I might completely agree/disagree with something, but he has his views and I still have my own.

[Centis]

Rough title, tame article. Beyond the title, I'm not sure how that piece could engender strong feelings either way. Seemed like more of a celebration of David Gaider than anything, which given the responses here would seem to be in tune with the sensibilities of most posters on this site.

I read far more than I post on these forums, and even my reading here is infrequent. However I've seen enough to know that having someone like this Gaider guy drop in and offer his unique perspectives is far more of a boon than a curse. Whether you agree/disagree with or like/dislike him, not many game forums offer this level of interaction with their community. It makes the conversations/arguments a bit more interesting that your typical game forum.

[Sunder_2]

Thanks primarily to david gaider's complete lack of respect & attitude towards most anyone who has dissenting point of view, I for one, have been completely turned off and most likely am done with Dragon Age products. To be fair, I was underwhelmed by the game and the purchase of Warden's Keep & RTO as well, but his astounding arrogance and rude replies in threadss regarding the length of Awakenings and another thread about the lack of cloaks in the game were the straws that connvinced me that EA & Gaiderdon't deserve anymore of my money for this product.

[worksa8]

Makes sense, if someone was telling me off for simply wanting or thinking about something I would tell them to **** off without hesitation. Also talking back to consumers never ends well, as you can see...

(I don't even know this person relaly btw, but if he is rude simply because someone asks a question or says something should be in the game, then he should take a hike before he chases away a portion of would be consumers. If he is just fighting fire with fire though, can you really blame him?)

Modifié par worksa8, 12 février 2010 - 04:42 .

[Yozaro]

There's "The David Gaider Appreciation Society" in Facebook.

I like it when the game creators talk to the community. Designers and programmers of Paradox Interactive talk to the community all the time and they even publish weekly development diaries. That just makes me appreciate them even more.

Same thing with the fact that BioWare employees are willing to talk to the community, even if most of us are just idiots.

Modifié par Yozaro, 12 février 2010 - 04:52 .

[aries1001]

David Gaider wrote...

Hmm.

I don't know how to feel about the implication that I am either a figurehead or a "sharp-tongued nuisance", but GreyWardens.com is usually a pretty decent site. Despite how some of you might feel about this article, I wouldn't judge the site by it alone.

It seems as if I should post less than I do. I knew that some people took me as Bioware Man, as if I represented and was responsible for everything Bioware simply by way of my visibility, but sharp-tongued figurehead wasn't exactly what I was going for.

Peace.

Please David, do not post less than you do. It is always a pleasure reading your info about the game as well as the response you give to people. And yes, they can be witty and sarcastic, but on the old forums we all know that this was because you secretly loved us

[AndreaDraco]

I know for sure that, if the GW article will result in David and the other writers/developers posting less on these forums, I'd be severely pissed off by said article

[exorzist]

AndreaDraco wrote...

I know for sure that, if the GW article will result in David and the other writers/developers posting less on these forums, I'd be severely pissed off by said article

Don't worry, that won't happen. In fact, Mr. Gaider and GW.com get along quite good

[DragonDefender]

* Stabs Gaider with his Starfang *



See what happens when you try to be nice and communicate with us, well I suppose there is nothing left to do now but string up his corpse as and example to the other dev's who want to come around these forums.



Seriously you cannot take shots at someone and expect them to sit there very politely and take it. Ive seen some of the stuff directed to Gaider and it can be a little harsh. I am no Fanboi and have oppenly given a opion that differs from the dev's but I always try to take it from a respectful approach. We are lucky the dev's even come around here and let us know whats going on tell me another company that will do that for it's fans.



Now if we can only find a way to cut the spinal colum of EA and allow Bioware to live free from the chains of slavery, but if we did that they would probably partner with the new Satan Activision.

[Zavrian]

Gaider is more patient with us forumites than some I could mention. And some of us don't deserve what patience he does show.

[aries1001]

I think the writer of the article has misunderstood why and how Gaider, and other Bioware devs. are here. Wahcter is the community coordinator; his job is to function as a link between the community and the devs. Gaider is a dev. His job is not to be 'nice' (to call it that) to people, his job is to develop games. And to answer questions with witty remarks and perhaps some sarcastic comments as well. In the old forums, we'd all wait for Gaider's comments....and swoon over the remarks.



The point being that Gaider's comments sometimes cuts through all the nonsense, all the tomfoolery and all the misinformation about the game that's out there. And yes, sometimes, this needs to be said in a direct fashion. I'd rather have a dev. be honest about this than trying to please the community all the time. And please understand that people have different opinions about this game, some people might not even like the game or many of the features in the game. I see nothing wrong in telling these people 'then don''t buy the game' - one wonders why they have bought the game, then. Especially when then come on the forums and just say 'this game sucks' and don't explain any reason for why they think as they do.

[KDawg0713]

David Gaider wrote...

Hmm.

I don't know how to feel about the implication that I am either a figurehead or a "sharp-tongued nuisance", but GreyWardens.com is usually a pretty decent site. Despite how some of you might feel about this article, I wouldn't judge the site by it alone.

It seems as if I should post less than I do. I knew that some people took me as Bioware Man, as if I represented and was responsible for everything Bioware simply by way of my visibility, but sharp-tongued figurehead wasn't exactly what I was going for.

Peace.

I personally love all of your posts either because of their wit or the insite they give into the Dragon Age world.  I wish you would post more actually...

[David Gaider]

aries1001 wrote...
I think the writer of the article has misunderstood why and how Gaider, and other Bioware devs. are here.

I'll just point out that I don't think this is necessarily true. If you read the article you'll see that the writer doesn't really agree with the sentiment of some... if anything, the article perhaps didn't really paint a very balanced picture. Even so, the writer amended the article title and clarified a few points within to make that clearer.

I don't have a beef with Illiani, and this is just a misunderstanding. Like I said, don't hold it against GreyWardens.com ...I shouldn't be above criticism, and all I'd personally like is a balanced picture if one's going to shine the spotlight on me. Not that anyone's obligated to do so, here or anywhere.

Modifié par David Gaider, 12 février 2010 - 09:41 .

[MerinTB]

Somebody ordered a spotlight?

Where you want me to put it? On Gaider? You sure?

[joey_mork84]

MishenNikara wrote...

DSerpa wrote...
He's a nerd's nerd.

I read this in Zap Brannigans voice, then promptly followed by "He's a nerd's nerd's nerd"

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Modifié par joey_mork84, 13 février 2010 - 02:49 .