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[WarmachineX0]

I would reather see the game start off with all the characters, then get flushed out more, then do another galactic scavanger hunt.

First, everyone that has the possibility to become a LI will return,
Liara
Ash/Kad
Tali
Garus
Jack
Thane
Miranda
Jacob

Though, the others still have resons for staying
Grunt- has pleadged to you, your his battlemaster.
Samara- Is a justicar, nothing worth fighting for more then saving everyone.
Mordin- Dispises what the reapers do, and would love to follow shepard around.

Zaeed and Samara's Daughter have no reson to stick around, as I dout "out of the kindness of their heart" has no meaning.

Other then that, there is the possibility that because of specific resons, Thane (sick), Mordin (old), and Samara (other duties) may not.


And, besides, you have to really try and screw up to get everyone but the minimum to survive, and I'm sure those that have saves like that just did it to see if it could be done, and to see what happens in ME3.

[Myounage]

I very, seriously doubt Thane and Mordin are going to come back. Mordin is coded to have a high death rate if he does not escort the crew during suicide mission or accompany Shepard to fight the human reaper. Mordin is very old anyway, at least for a Salarian. He has already lived longer than most who die from old age. Regardless of whether he survives suicide mission, his age will likely prevent him from taking an active role in ME3. Thane has under a year to live because of Kepral syndrome. If he is not dead by ME3's beginning, he will likely have too hard of a time breathing for combat. IMO, ME3 will have the same or slightly more party members, with these two replaced by Kaiden OR Ashley(second human Spectre) and Liara.

[Conway044]

Quietness wrote...

i actually could see samara coming back, if you talk to her a few times she at one points pledges to come and help if you ever need it (assuming you both survive the collectors.)

She told me she would have to kill me if we ran into each other after she was released from her oath.  She said she wanted to avoid that as we had become friends.

So I'm hoping to avoid her post Collector mission.  Keep our relationship on a pen pal basis.

[sticks435]

My 2 cents is that DLC chars will not be squadmates, but may make a cameo. Garrus and Tali and your ME1 LI's will be for sure. I can't see Bioware not making Legion a squadmember, his story is just to interesting not to and remember, you never did get an answer as to why he waited until he found your armor to patch himself. Thane will probably be written out, Miranda/Jacob I'm not sure about, if I remember right they are still part of Cerberus if you pick the renegade ending and I'm sure things will come to a head with that organization. Other than that, its anyones guess.

[Homebound]

FlyinElk212 wrote...

BTW, I would love for Bioware to prove me wrong, and have everyone return as squadmates. I just really don't see it happening.

I dont think Ashley/Kaidan will be returning though...Depending on who dies on Virmire.

Unless...No..Bioware wouldnt...zombie squadmates?!

[Homebound]

WarmachineX0 wrote...

I would reather see the game start off with all the characters, then get flushed out more, then do another galactic scavanger hunt.

First, everyone that has the possibility to become a LI will return,
Liara
Ash/Kad
Tali
Garus
Jack
Thane
Miranda
Jacob

Though, the others still have resons for staying
Grunt- has pleadged to you, your his battlemaster.
Samara- Is a justicar, nothing worth fighting for more then saving everyone.
Mordin- Dispises what the reapers do, and would love to follow shepard around.

Zaeed and Samara's Daughter have no reson to stick around, as I dout "out of the kindness of their heart" has no meaning.

Other then that, there is the possibility that because of specific resons, Thane (sick), Mordin (old), and Samara (other duties) may not.


And, besides, you have to really try and screw up to get everyone but the minimum to survive, and I'm sure those that have saves like that just did it to see if it could be done, and to see what happens in ME3.

Mordin not coming back due to age?  What? You think ME3 will be set 10 years into the future? Mordin is 30ish, and Salarians usually live up to 40.

[sticks435]

Just_mike wrote...

Mordin not coming back due to age?  What? You think ME3 will be set 10 years into the future? Mordin is 30ish, and Salarians usually live up to 40.

Ummm, he's 50. Says so on the offical masseffect bio.

[Wynne]

Since everyone can die in ME2, I'm doubting they'll bring back everyone for more than cameos. It'd definitely be too hard, as the OP was saying. So as much as I hate the idea of letting a bunch of awesome characters go just because they might be dead, I'm afraid this is what I see happening.

Squadmates: 

Tali. They can't not have Tali, c'mon. People would reload just to keep her alive.
Garrus. See above.
Jacob. Probable, since he is there throughout the entire game and pretty darned useful.
Miranda. See above.

Non-Squadmates: 

Mordin. He was already very old in ME2 and he was like at the top of the death list.
Samara. She is a justicar, she has her code, she lives for it. She likes Shepard, but she is her own person.
Thane. He's dying in ME2 and says a cure is gene therapy that won't happen in his lifetime because the program just started and he only has like 6-8 months or something. I'm glum about it because his personality and look are so fascinating, but I'm afraid he's a goner.

Grey Area: 

Ashley/Kaidan. One of them will be alive for everyone, even non-imported ME2 Shepards. This was the point. But whether they'll be recruitable is another question entirely. If they aren't, I would like to see something a lot better than a single appearance--I would like to have dinner with them, to meet them after and/or before each important main quest event.
Liara. She's alive, so why not give her more of a role? She could be a squadmate, like Ash/Kaidan, or she could just have a far greater extended cameo, but in either case I'd like to see more of her than we saw in this game.
Jack. I can sorta see her up and leaving because it's all too emotional... but it doesn't really feel authentic. I can just as easily find myself saying, "but you're quite possibly the closest thing to a family she has, and you're doing the most fun thing in the universe--fighting impossible odds." So no, can't really see her leaving for ME3 and just wandering off to randomly mug people. I think that'd be too boring in comparison with what you do.
Legion. Who knows what that wild card is gonna do? But I'm hoping he'll be back because he was incredibly cool.
Grunt. Will he stay with his current battlemaster, or go back to his clan? No clue. He's another wild card.

Squadmates I'd like to see: 

Feron or another drell. Feron is from the Redemption comic. We've already seen how well drell go over with the female audience for this series. Unlike Thane, he seems to have no perfect dead wife and angsty abandoned son and is presumably not dying. Liara seems to mention him in ME2--I think this is a hint, although it may just be a hint that he'll be her personal quest and she'll find his corpse in ME3 for you to cry over like Tali did her father. They'd have to work incredibly hard to make him half as hot/romantic/sensitive a character as Thane, though.
Kal Reegar or another male quarian. Everyone likes Tali, and after ME2 and staring at those form-fitting suits, I caught the opposite end of the quarian mystique. Rowr. Gimme some. And Kal had a great voice/was really awesome, though sadly he can die in ME2, so I don't expect this. Oh, well. All the more fun if the male quarian has an accent like Tali's. It sounds so exotic and appealing.

And on a final note, my FemShep still wants to bone he of the brittle bones as soon as those bones become less brittle. So here's hoping ME3 has a Vrolik's cure. On the squad is out of the question regardless because we need him in the pilot's chair, but I love that kid like nobody's business and I want him to finally get some action! (Please, no jokes about EDI being his lover instead of his mom or memes about cracking hips, I've heard them all 40 times, and that's just today.)

Modifié par Wynne, 12 février 2010 - 01:35 .

[Hazelrah10]

As long as Garrus and Tali return I'll be happy. They've been on the squad through it all. It would be such a bummer not to have them by my side when I finally smash the reapers.

[AGogley]

Talogrungi wrote...

AGogley wrote...

I liked the Wrex cameo.  I thought it was well done.  Liara sucked because there was little explanation as to why she was after the shadow broker (there was some, but it was forgettable and not at all convincing).

And aren't all the squadmates in ME2 killable?  Which ones can you not eliminate using specific choices?

Yeah, every squadmate in ME2 can die.

The Wrex cameo was good; but would you be happy if the ENTIRE ME2 squad only had cameos in ME3?

Of course, not.  But my point is that the story can easily be written that way.  I think the appropriate thing to do would be to bring back fan favorites and either get rid of everyone else or make them cameos.

[AGogley]

Wynne: Any of the characters can be written in or out of the storyline without much difficulty. I think Bioware is going to bring back the fan favorites or those with plotlines that heretofore have been deeply integrated into the story (the Krogan genophage, the Quarians/Geth, Garrus, for example).

[Myounage]

sticks435 wrote...

My 2 cents is that DLC chars will not be squadmates, but may make a cameo. Garrus and Tali and your ME1 LI's will be for sure. I can't see Bioware not making Legion a squadmember, his story is just to interesting not to and remember, you never did get an answer as to why he waited until he found your armor to patch himself. Thane will probably be written out, Miranda/Jacob I'm not sure about, if I remember right they are still part of Cerberus if you pick the renegade ending and I'm sure things will come to a head with that organization. Other than that, its anyones guess.

Miranda can't be written out very well if you assume that her loyalty mission has been done.  If it is canon that Shep leaves Cerberus or Cerberus turns on Shep, a loyal Miranda would not side with Cerberus, since she quits her job on the spot if a loyal Miranda is ordered to turn against Shepard.  I'm not sure about Jacob though.

[KainrycKarr]

Archereon wrote...

OP: Plain and simple, they won't.

Wrongo.

http://ve3tro.com/72...dson-interview/

"Mass Effect 3 has been reported to already be in the planning stages. What things would you like to see improved from the end of the development cycle of Mass Effect 2 to Mass Effect 3?

* I think the biggest thing is first of all the resolution of all the plots, all the decisions players have made throughout. Being able to play and experience all the surviving cast members, all the characters people liked. That’s one big part of it.

[StowyMcStowstow]

ussbones wrote...

Hopefully, though they will stay true to their ME1/ME2 fans and not cater to newbies into the series, cause really, who the hell wouldn't buy ME1/ME2 and just run out and pick up ME3?

I swear if Bioware makes any further attempts to cater to either "casual" or people nwe to the series, I will take a small trip down to Bioware HQ and beat them all with a baseball bat.

They tried it once, and they took out a bunch of stuff, rushed it, changed many of the mechanics that were fine, but just needed polishing. If they do it again, ME3 won't even look like Mass Effect 2, let alone Mass Effect 1.

On topic, do they even have a choice? And I doubt that both squads will return. I think that you will have all of your squad from ME2 (that survived), and you will get aided by former teammates, or they will join your squad again.

From the Ve3tro.com interview- "The other part though is really down to the feedback we’ll get from fans having played Mass Effect 2. That’s going to be our biggest focus is understanding the way people play our games and trying to make them better based on what they say about them."

Good Lord I hope so.

Modifié par StowyMcStowstow, 12 février 2010 - 05:21 .

[Lord_Metal666]

Seeing as they're all kill able, and if they do things similar to ME1-ME2 they will only show up as NPCs.

[Lord_Metal666]

If they do things similar to ME1 to ME2 they will only show up as NPCs, seeing as they can all die.

Modifié par Lord_Metal666, 12 février 2010 - 06:07 .

[KainrycKarr]

StowyMcStowstow wrote...

ussbones wrote...

Hopefully, though they will stay true to their ME1/ME2 fans and not cater to newbies into the series, cause really, who the hell wouldn't buy ME1/ME2 and just run out and pick up ME3?

I swear if Bioware makes any further attempts to cater to either "casual" or people nwe to the series, I will take a small trip down to Bioware HQ and beat them all with a baseball bat.

They tried it once, and they took out a bunch of stuff, rushed it, changed many of the mechanics that were fine, but just needed polishing. If they do it again, ME3 won't even look like Mass Effect 2, let alone Mass Effect 1.

On topic, do they even have a choice? And I doubt that both squads will return. I think that you will have all of your squad from ME2 (that survived), and you will get aided by former teammates, or they will join your squad again.

From the Ve3tro.com interview- "The other part though is really down to the feedback we’ll get from fans having played Mass Effect 2. That’s going to be our biggest focus is understanding the way people play our games and trying to make them better based on what they say about them."

Good Lord I hope so.

Read above post.

* I think the biggest thing is first of all the resolution of all the plots, all the decisions players have made throughout. Being able to play and experience all the surviving cast members, all the characters people liked. That’s one big part of it.


Same interview, no less.

[KainrycKarr]

Lord_Metal666 wrote...

Seeing as they're all kill able, and if they do things similar to ME1-ME2 they will only show up as NPCs.

Do you people freaking read?


http://ve3tro.com/72...dson-interview/

"Mass Effect 3 has been reported to already be in the planning stages. What things would you like to see improved from the end of the development cycle of Mass Effect 2 to Mass Effect 3?

* I think the biggest thing is first of all the resolution of all the plots, all the decisions players have made throughout. Being able to play and experience all the surviving cast members, all the characters people liked. That’s one big part of it.

[petipas1414]

KainrycKarr wrote...

Lord_Metal666 wrote...

Seeing as they're all kill able, and if they do things similar to ME1-ME2 they will only show up as NPCs.

Do you people freaking read?


http://ve3tro.com/72...dson-interview/

"Mass Effect 3 has been reported to already be in the planning stages. What things would you like to see improved from the end of the development cycle of Mass Effect 2 to Mass Effect 3?

* I think the biggest thing is first of all the resolution of all the plots, all the decisions players have made throughout. Being able to play and experience all the surviving cast members, all the characters people liked. That’s one big part of it.

You just made my night

[DuffyMJ]

MyKingdomCold wrote...

I think Bioware kind of has a problem in some ways too.

They have to take into consideration games where Shepard and every squad member in ME2 die. So does that mean they would introduce new characters but these new characters wouldn't be used in a game where Shepard lives? Or would the new characters be there and replace squad members from ME1 and ME2?

Maybe then you could have a squad limited to liara (garunteed to live), your virmire survivor, and what few new members they add?

[KainrycKarr]

DuffyMJ wrote...

MyKingdomCold wrote...

I think Bioware kind of has a problem in some ways too.

They have to take into consideration games where Shepard and every squad member in ME2 die. So does that mean they would introduce new characters but these new characters wouldn't be used in a game where Shepard lives? Or would the new characters be there and replace squad members from ME1 and ME2?

Maybe then you could have a squad limited to liara (garunteed to live), your virmire survivor, and what few new members they add?

First off, YOU CAN'T IMPORT A GAME WITH A DEAD SHEPARD. (This is directed at MyKingdomCold)

And, for like the millionth time.
http://ve3tro.com/72...dson-interview/

"Mass Effect 3 has been reported to already be in the planning stages. What things would you like to see improved from the end of the development cycle of Mass Effect 2 to Mass Effect 3?

* I think the biggest thing is first of all the resolution of all the plots, all the decisions players have made throughout. Being able to play and experience all the surviving cast members, all the characters people liked. That’s one big part of it.

[Lord_Metal666]

KainrycKarr wrote...

Lord_Metal666 wrote...

Seeing as they're all kill able, and if they do things similar to ME1-ME2 they will only show up as NPCs.

Do you people freaking read?


http://ve3tro.com/72...dson-interview/

"Mass Effect 3 has been reported to already be in the planning stages. What things would you like to see improved from the end of the development cycle of Mass Effect 2 to Mass Effect 3?

* I think the biggest thing is first of all the resolution of all the plots, all the decisions players have made throughout. Being able to play and experience all the surviving cast members, all the characters people liked. That’s one big part of it.

Well to tbh for starters I've never been too or even heard of that website, so to answer your question no.

And experiencing all the surviving cast members could technically mean watching them all die in a fiery explosion at the start of the game. And seeing as they all could all die technically speaking they're not surviving cast members anyway.

This is all heresay though, looks like you'll have to wait til E3 to find out if you're lucky.

I think it would be alot better, and not to mention eaiser to give you a new crew though.

[nitefyre410]

I have a question for this thread I see alot people posting saying the LI from ME 1 is going to come back for ME 3 because the romance between Shepherd and said LI from ME 1 is not resolved.... What in ME 2 gave you that impression? Ashley was my LI from ME 1 and from the conversation on Horizon that Relationship is DONE, Its a wrap, its a Reynolds, Its over prime, *in god like voice* its is finish... That conversation was pretty much "Goodbye Take care, i care but we are two different people now" So what makes people think that the relationship with LI from ME 1 is not over?

cause it looked pretty much resolved to me

[CoolChris2080]

I really want everyone to return, save for Wrex. They put him in a good place and I can't see him returning to help Shepard instead of uniting his people. Aside from that I have a theory that a huge confrontation is going to take place that involves all of the races in the galaxy.. and Wrex would probably head the Krogan.



The DLC characters would make nice cameos if you did get the DLC, but apart from that I think everyone should be available as squadmates in ME3.



Mordin

Thane

Tali (Definitely)

Liara (Definitely)

Miranda

Jacob

Garrus (Definitely)

Legion

Ashley/Kaiden (Meh.. maybe, maybe not. Them being consistant, yet none-Squadmate allies would be nce)

Grunt

Samera (I'd like to see a love interest develop here if you persued her in ME2)

Jack



Looks about right! If you're going to introduce new people in ME3, then great! But not at the expense of the old ones.

[IceSavage]

I personally think that Miranda will definitely be back, because Yvonne Strahovski is a big name start that is great for interviews.



Still, some character cannot return unless, you have like 20 or so squad members and I think that is a bit nuts. Why wont everyone return. Well you have to consider that for some people certain characters could be dead. Consider the possibility that both Jack, Samara and Miranda are dead. Basically you would have no main Biotic person. And that could cause trouble for the storyline of ME3. So there would have to be mandatory additions for such possibilities.



Certain characters are also easily made into non squad member characters but important side characters. If BioWare made Mordin just stay in the Lab for research projects, I would be fine with that as long as he would have some meaningful dialog.



Personally to me, Grunt, Samara and Legion are questionable. Samara said she would join you on the mission. Grunt fought a great fight with you and could return to tuchanka, and Legion also joined you to kill the reaper threat in ME2 only.



We shall see though.