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[Sinister-starfeesh]

I can't really see him being in the expansion as a group character, this breaks my little heart... who will supply with me with cheesey puns and one liners
Judgeing by the trailer, i suppose it's a possibility... but he might not be part of the team or whatnot.
But who knows.

I've played through the game so many times and never been able to kill ogrhen, only one person turns on you if you fight caridin, maybe I'm just not choosing the right options. Besides, i'm scared of what oghren would do to my 'rump' if he returned ¬.¬
Knowing my luck it will be someone like morrigan who returns... who I don't want ever... She threatens my magely power.

Modifié par Sinister-starfeesh, 12 février 2010 - 09:48 .

[CybAnt1]

Too hard to bring Alistair back. Either he's dead, exiled, or too busy as king or re-establishing the wardens.



Can't bring Morrigan back - well you could if you turn down her ritual offer (and thus either you or Al died), but even then, I still think they won't.



You know Wynne's on borrowed time. Not only is she elderly but heck is just some Fade spirit keeping her walking & talking, she's practically already dead.



Yes I'm rooting for the return of Leliana, especially for people who romanced her & are continuing their savegame, but ... doesn't seem in the cards.



Return of Zevran .. esp. for female ... or male ... players who romanced him, dunno, but likewise. If he's getting written out of the story, it's because I predict the Crows caught up with him and "dealt" with him, after all.



Sten... well, he kept saying he was going back to the Qunari homeland after the Blight, you have to figure he did.



Loghain ... really couldn't care one way or another ... killed him on every playthrough, NEVER took him as a companion, I don't forgive easily.



Rooting for the return of Shale & Dog, but if you bring back Dog, I would expand his talent range so that at least like Shale he has 16 talents instead of just 8. Maybe if you're a new Orlesian warden there's a way you come across a new, loyal & faithful Mabari all over again. Although other "Pet" options might be cool too... like a Pet Wolf.



It seems it will be Oghren coming back ... ehhh, loved his dialogue, his bluster, why not, he's not the one I would have chosen first to come back, esp. if it's only him, but oh well.

[J-all]

Its a post from one of the bioware mod that the question came up about well the items carry over from the returning character and he said no but that the returning person would have cool new armor so death kiss dog and shale off the list. Oh yeah also there's a ign interview I believe where they something like all because you think you seen the returning character in the trailer that doesn't mean thats the one staying.....!?

[Pentrep]

I think Allistair would be one of the more likely candidates for a return in Awakening. The trailer makes it abundantly clear that Allistar is indeed involved in some capacity. Regardless of your chosen fate for Allistair, it is entirely likely that he will play at the very least an auxiliary role in Awakening. Assuming you didn't kill him in which case his role will be replaced by Anora. But i think it assumes that you didn't kill him and that he will indeed return in some fashion. Only time will tell i suppose.

[CybAnt1]

the returning person would have cool new armor so death kiss dog and shale off the list.

Why? Shale has armor (crystals) and Dog has armor (collar-warpaint). 

Although not what you normally think of as armor, true. And since people generally don't think of mage robes as armor either (although they technically are), that's likely to rule out Morrigan or Wynne. 

[ejoslin]

While I don't think Zevran is the returning character, I don't think it will be because the crows "dealt" with him, seeing as that would be inconsistent with every single other ending of his. *sigh* I really am hoping the romances are dealt with in a consistent manner.

Modifié par ejoslin, 12 février 2010 - 08:26 .

[JBC4733]

Out of curiosity, what dialogue options or choices initiate Alistair's execution in the epilogue? My Warden is male, if that bears any relevance.

Last night, I killed the Archdemon and proceeded to the coronation scene. I told Anora that I want the Warden's to never again be forgotten, which caused her to speak as though Alistair had sacrificed himself to kill the Archdemon. However, that is not the case, because I took up Morrigan's offer, didn't harden Alistair, killed Loghain, and made Anora queen. I told Anora that I would be searching for Morrigan, then talked to Alistair, who asked me about Morrigan and said goodbye, as though we wouldn't see each other again following my departure. I walked out the door after speaking to everyone else, and Alistair was not mentioned in the epilogue.

This afternoon I killed the Archdemon again to create another post-campaign save file (which ended up overwriting the one I made last night anyways), and told Anora that I would need no reward. She replied by saying that the Warden's would given Howe's land in Amaranthine. I then told her that I would stay with the Wardens, because the darkspawn are still a threat. Then I spoke to Alistair, who thanked me for everything. I told him that it was "hardly a goodbye," and he said something along the lines of our friendship not ending. I had the same result as my previous save -- he wasn't mentioned in the epilogue. I'm not really what can be assumed from these endings, nor what effect that will have on my game when I transfe rmy Warden to Awakening.

As for his actual role, I'm really curious as to what choices will affect the storyline of Awakening. Bioware has stated that they will play a role in changing the plot, but in one of those 'Oghren is returning' threads, one of the moderators stated the budget for all companions returning was not present for this expansion. I can't say that the companions and choices affecting the storyline are directly connected, but that statement really made me curious. I suppose I can only hope that the story will have more continuity from Origins in future expansions, or in the sequel.

[SurelyForth]

If you live, the epilogues only mention the ruler/s, certain quests and your love interests. So, if Alistair is neither the king nor a love interest, he won't be in your epilogue. Zevran always stays with me and is only in the epilogue if we end the game in a relationship.



I don't think post-coronation decisions will matter, anyway. Most of them have no real timelines (save for the royal wedding if you are a HN marrying Alistair or Anora) so the events of Awakening will probably take place in the time between the coronation and whatever "happens" in your epilogues.



I imagine King Alistair will be a stoy NPC (like Eamon in Origins) and won't be around a lot while Grey Warden Alistair would be even less necessary and will just be a cameo, if they even do those for non-returning companions.

[Funny_chan]

I've been thinking for quite some time that perhaps the other companions situations will be explained in Awakening in some kind of "written prologue" similar to the epilogue of DA:O. This way they won't need to bring back the voice actors for all the original companions, thus saving some budget.

[Vicious]

I figure Alistair will give the Warden his/her 'mission briefing' and send them on their way while he attends to whatever it is that he does.

[ejoslin]

SurelyForth wrote...

If you live, the epilogues only mention the ruler/s, certain quests and your love interests. So, if Alistair is neither the king nor a love interest, he won't be in your epilogue. Zevran always stays with me and is only in the epilogue if we end the game in a relationship.

I don't think post-coronation decisions will matter, anyway. Most of them have no real timelines (save for the royal wedding if you are a HN marrying Alistair or Anora) so the events of Awakening will probably take place in the time between the coronation and whatever "happens" in your epilogues.

I imagine King Alistair will be a stoy NPC (like Eamon in Origins) and won't be around a lot while Grey Warden Alistair would be even less necessary and will just be a cameo, if they even do those for non-returning companions.

Unless you do the ultimate sacrifice -- then you hear about everyone, and how they either suffered with your death or thrived (or not) because of your influence in their life.

I agree about Alistair.  And if he's a grey warden, that can be the time he "briefly leaves his love's side."  I have hopes that this will be good.

[JBC4733]

SurelyForth wrote...

If you live, the epilogues only mention the ruler/s, certain quests and your love interests. So, if Alistair is neither the king nor a love interest, he won't be in your epilogue. Zevran always stays with me and is only in the epilogue if we end the game in a relationship.

I don't think post-coronation decisions will matter, anyway. Most of them have no real timelines (save for the royal wedding if you are a HN marrying Alistair or Anora) so the events of Awakening will probably take place in the time between the coronation and whatever "happens" in your epilogues.

I imagine King Alistair will be a stoy NPC (like Eamon in Origins) and won't be around a lot while Grey Warden Alistair would be even less necessary and will just be a cameo, if they even do those for non-returning companions.

Ah, so I see. That explains it then.

I read that thread about the coronation choices and the save file after defeating the Archdemon, so I suppose it seems likely that it won't be relevant in Awakening. Regardless, everything is speculation right now. I'm hoping for continuity and more returning companions in future expansions and the sequel, but we don't even know for sure who's returning in Awakening, so I suppose we'll have to wait and see what happens.

[spirit-dog]

I really do hope that Alistair is the returning companion or that he does have a decent role to play if he's not dead for whatever reason. Kept him off the throne and running off to rebuild the Grey Wardens with me for a good reason. >.<



If not the trailers do seem to show that he does have some decent role to play, but then again he's always felt to me like the central character of DA:O asside from the PC.

[Vicious]

I hope he's not the returning companion because I just couldn't stand the guy. He did... err.. what's the opposite of when someone grows on you? Because I liked him at first, then started to dislike him more and more till now I can't stand him.

[Moonamber]

Pentrep wrote...

I find it odd that they would add Oghren of all the possible characters they could bring back. I mean, does anyone even like or use Oghren? Aside from the one time I was forced to use him, I never used him.

Ditto- got him out of my party as soon as I could. He just did not appeal to me in any way shape or form.  Only way I could accept him in a party in the new expansion is if there was a gag/big heavy bucket over the head option...

[Pentrep]

I think maybe the best way for Bioware to solve the Companion return issue, is by voting who should come back. Though I doubt they will do this.

[errant_knight]

Pentrep wrote...

I think maybe the best way for Bioware to solve the Companion return issue, is by voting who should come back. Though I doubt they will do this.

The game is coming out in a little over a month. By this time it's basically done and being tested. If you read the FAQ on the Awakenings page, you will find that Oghren plays a large role, and there are potential cameos by Alistair, Loghrain, Wynne and....I forget. Just a sec, I'll go look.

Okay, I'm back. Anora.

Obviously, the cameos are dependent on choices you made during Origins, but there you have it.

Modifié par errant_knight, 13 février 2010 - 08:33 .

[Ken555]

your only supposed to lose approval points with ogren if u fight branka

[shedevil3001]

it actually says cameos, then potential companions alistair wynne and logain depending on your choices in dao

[Wolfaura]

JBC4733 wrote...

Out of curiosity, what dialogue options or choices initiate Alistair's execution in the epilogue? My Warden is male, if that bears any relevance.

You can get Alistair executed if you keep Loghain alive and have chosen Anora as queen and have Alistair refuse to abdicate the throne. Anora will have him executed if you don't persuade her not to.
It doesn't matter if your warden is male or female.

[Maferath]

^a small correction: actually once you spare Loghain she wants Alistair dead anyway, even if he abdicates.

[shedevil3001]

i knew anora was evil how dare she want alistair dead