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[boardnfool86]

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

boardnfool86 wrote...

she's a powerful biotic, one of only two who can successfully complete a task during the suicide mission... she's useful indeed

metagaming though...That's the problem.  I can only justify it via metagaming.  I hate metagaming.

no not really, i took it as if this mission is as impossible as they say i better get everyone i can... you know, ultra powerful biotic? welcome aboard... especially when she is obviously a scared little girl trapped in a powerful grown woman's body...

I never found her intimidating, when she acts like she could whoop your ass at the end of purgatory... i wish i could have made my shep laugh and be like 'ok' in the most sarcastically insulting tone you can think of

[Dethateer]

Internet Kraken wrote...

Neither did I. I was actually wondering why there wasn't an option to give him my guns, since I didn't even consider the possibility of betrayl. This guy has been running a (albeit horribly unethical) prison ship for years, and Cerberus is about to pay him a mountain of credits. Why screw all of that up trying to capture a living legend?

Warden: "Gee, this guy mowed down countless Geth and Krogan to save the galaxy. I'm sure my guards can take him!"

Eh, if you take into account all the Thresher Maws you killed and Wrex suddenly forgot about when you bring Grunt over...

[Statulos]

Her paragon romance outcome should be good enough.

[Gill Kaiser]

Canonically you didn't kill any of those on foot, though.

[cronshaw8]

Why trust Cerberus if you are a paragon?

You spent all of ME1 tearing them a new one.

Why recruit Wrex in ME1? he's a mercenary who blows away an unarmed man.

You do it because you agreed to help the Illusive Man and he thinks it is a good idea.

[Cutlass Jack]

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

Malanek999 wrote...

She hates Cerberus and you can't trust Cerberus. You need allies like that.

But she also thinks that I am part of Cerberus.  Why would she believe me?  She even says "you show up in a Cerberus ship and expect me to just leave with you?"

You have access to something she needs. Simple as that for her. While I needed more people I could trust against Cerberus. Thats why Tali, Garrus and Jack were my three go-to squad members I could trust if something hit the fan with TIM.

[Malanek]

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

Malanek999 wrote...

She hates Cerberus and you can't trust Cerberus. You need allies like that.

But she also thinks that I am part of Cerberus.  Why would she believe me?  She even says "you show up in a Cerberus ship and expect me to just leave with you?"

But you're not really with Cerberus and she would see that pretty quickly. She never struck me as evil nor irrational.

[Sharn01]

Why recruit Thane, he is a cold blooded assassin?



Why recruit Samara, she has a code that allow's her to kill any one who does any thing she view's as wrong before she even has all the fact's about what happened?

[Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien]

Malanek999 wrote...

She hates Cerberus and you can't trust Cerberus. You need allies like that.

This pretty much sums up what I was going to say.

You are playing a paragon so am guessing you don't like Cerberus much but they are giving you a means to an end and did actually bring you back.

Yes she is a bit of a loose canon, but you could easily just leave her on the ship looking up the data files.

[Frotality]

for the absolute moest immersion-breaking reason for anything in a game:

to progress the story. thats the best reason i can come up with....

[77boy84]

Malanek999 wrote...

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

Malanek999 wrote...

She hates Cerberus and you can't trust Cerberus. You need allies like that.

But she also thinks that I am part of Cerberus.  Why would she believe me?  She even says "you show up in a Cerberus ship and expect me to just leave with you?"

But you're not really with Cerberus and she would see that pretty quickly. She never struck me as evil nor irrational.

She sees that as soon as you give her access to all of Cerberus's databases.

[Razorsedge820]

Because she is arguably the most powerful biotic in the galaxy.

[jlb524]

Why recruit Jack? Because you need another powerful biotic, just in case something were to happen to Samara along the way. Realistically, Samara could die in any battle, so Jack would be your back up powerful biotics user.

[SpaceshipMoriarty]

If you've chosen to be Paragon, it's your duty to try and help folk out. You've given other people second chances before, why should Jack be any different?

[Nozybidaj]

Dethateer wrote...

 TIM tells you to

That's basically the ingame reason and about as good a one I as think we can get at this point.

[Collider]

The fact that you need to to advance in the story. If I'm not mistaken.

[Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien]

jlb524 wrote...

Why recruit Jack? Because you need another powerful biotic, just in case something were to happen to Samara along the way. Realistically, Samara could die in any battle, so Jack would be your back up powerful biotics user.

Except at that point Samara isn't on the dossier list. The OP is asking for RP reasons and people are being stupid giving her OOC reasons.

Ok so RP thinking head on, up to getting to purgatory all you know is that Jack is a powerful biotic and that TIM has paid for her release. You don't know much else about her. Maybe you talk to that prisoner who basically states he don't want to come with you if Jack is going with you. Ok maybe a bit concerned now, but hey who would trust a prisoner that killed people, right?

So then the Warden does the dirty on you, you get out of the spot you were trapped in and find the release mechanism that will set Jack free. You then see Jack for the first time and she obliterates 3 YMIR mechs singlehanded (Did you solo the YMIR mech on Freedom's progress?) and then tears a hole in the wall and begins her escape. Now at this point you go through the whole ordeal of getting out and end up running into the Warden, you kill him, you then encounter Jack whilst the ship is going down. Jack points out she hates Cerberus, something which as others have said, surely if you are a Paragon you wouldn't be liking much either. She asks for access to their files.

As mentioned before, you could just agree to that and leave her on the ship, maybe she'll find something that will you could pass over to the Council or Alliance? Thus she could be useful.

[--Master of All--]

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

 Seriously, how the heck can I justify bringing this crazy woman on my ship as a paragon?  I've tried and tried to come up with a good in-game reason and I just can't do it.  "She's powerful" and "I feel sorry for her" don't cut it.  I'm paragon, but not a gullible idiot.  I know she's not as crazy as she looks and once you get to know her she's not that bad, but my character doesn't know that when she meets her.  Help me out here.

Well... do you want her for you or against you? Think about it for a second. 

[challenger18]

So you'll cool with the other character's explanations but you refuse to accept Jack's, which is exactly like Thane's except she takes responsibility for her actions and all she wants is access to Cerberus files?

Sounds like a personal problem to me.

Modifié par challenger18, 11 février 2010 - 10:00 .

[77boy84]

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

Sharn01 wrote...

Why recruit Thane, he is a cold blooded assassin?

Why recruit Samara, she has a code that allow's her to kill any one who does any thing she view's as wrong before she even has all the fact's about what happened?

I agree with Samara's code almost entirely.  Plus she swears an oath to serve me.  Thane himself explains things perfectly "assassin's are weapons.  If you kill someone with your gun do you hold the gun responsible. No one hired him to kill me.  In fact, I hired HIM."

Thane's gun arguement is so silly...
Guns can't think and choose. Thane can say "Oh, it's not my fault!" but at the end of the day he chose to take on jobs to kill people. He is not innocent.

[max_ai]

Gill Kaiser wrote...

Canonically you didn't kill any of those on foot, though.

I don't know what you're talking about. 
On harder difficulties it was only on foot (so much faster).
This also includes the Armatures and the Colossus-es. Especially the latter.
Killing them on the Mako took ages (on foot roughly 15 secs).