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[WhiteKnyght]

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

 Seriously, how the heck can I justify bringing this crazy woman on my ship as a paragon?  I've tried and tried to come up with a good in-game reason and I just can't do it.  "She's powerful" and "I feel sorry for her" don't cut it.  I'm paragon, but not a gullible idiot.  I know she's not as crazy as she looks and once you get to know her she's not that bad, but my character doesn't know that when she meets her.  Help me out here.


*Edit*  Somebody gave me a reason that works well enough.  You all can keep talking as you like, but I got what I needed.  Thanks.

Jack needs a good influence in her life, someone like Shepard.

You also need a reminder that Cerberus is NOT the good guy. And a woman who was kidnapped, tortured, and used as a lab rat by them is a pretty good one.

[rohanks]

I first played ME2 as Paragon Shepherd. And like you (before the EDIT) couldn't think of a good reason to obtain Jack's loyalty apart from the fact that I needed her to complete my team before entering the Omega 4 relay.

However, as evidenced by the 'influence' (LI or not LI) a Paragon Shepherd had on Jack (can't speak for Renegade) I like the fact that she has found a purpose and a structure in teaching others to defend themselves and seems to be thriving.

I really liked Jack in ME3. She had some great lines especially at the close of the excellent Grissom Academy mission - about to give Joker a mouthful and then is suddenly cut off.

It's one of the great strengths of the Mass Effect trilogy that I keep reminding myself of when faced with 'that ending'. Your choices matter. At least in ME1 and ME2 and up to the last 15 minutes of ME3 .

Modifié par rohanks, 05 juillet 2013 - 08:06 .

[WhiteKnyght]

rohanks wrote...

I first played ME2 as Paragon Shepherd. And like you (before the EDIT) couldn't think of a good reason to obtain Jack's loyalty apart from the fact that I needed her to complete my team before entering the Omega 4 relay.

However, as evidenced by the 'influence' (LI or not LI) a Paragon Shepherd had on Jack (can't speak for Renegade) I like the fact that she has found a purpose and a structure in teaching others to defend themselves and seems to be thriving.

I really liked Jack in ME3. She had some great lines especially at the close of the excellent Grissom Academy mission - about to give Joker a mouthful and then is suddenly cut off.

It's one of the great strengths of the Mass Effect trilogy that I keep reminding myself of when faced with 'that ending'. Your choices matter. At least in ME1 and ME2 and up to the last 15 minutes of ME3 .

They matter. Self-delude yourself with ending-hate all you want, but the truth of the matter is that the Reaper crisis and everyone's personal drama were always separate plots within the story. How you handled Jack in ME2 should have no actual bearing on the Reaper war itself other than that she's fighting for you because of your friendship/romance.

If you didn't do any of the choices between ME1 and ME3, you wouldn't have the military force to even get to Earth, much less stop the Reapers.

And the Extended Cut's epilogue shows how everyone ended up, which varies based on your choices.

The vanilla really didn't need to show it because were already shown that everyone was gonna be all right when you finished their respective questlines. The personal plots reached their conclusion during the game, not at the end of it.

Not to mention that people hating ME3's ending, yet lauding Dragon Age Origins' ending is so hypocritical its silly. Dragon Age Origins' ending was nothing but a run of text slides containing information that amounted to rumors, not facts. Most of it got disproved in Awakening and DAII, which also disproved a lot of Awakening's ending slides. At least in Extended Cut's slides, you actually SEE the future to confirm it, and not just get a bunch of half-true hearsay.

Modifié par The Grey Nayr, 06 juillet 2013 - 03:50 .