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[Angel of Nessus]

Oh right. Also, it wasn't hair color mods, it was harem mods. Now her hair looks GOOD. She has yet to complain. And hey, half the time I'm around, she ain't wearing NOTHING.



Yea, that's right, I said it.

[Maria Caliban]

imported_beer wrote...

Leliana is just off sulking because Angel of Nessus made her a blonde.

Heretic! Burn him!

[Angel of Nessus]

Maria Caliban wrote...

imported_beer wrote...

Leliana is just off sulking because Angel of Nessus made her a blonde.

Heretic! Burn him!

Hey, I have delicate skin; just look at my portrait, I can't walk outside during the summer, much less stand to be burned.

[draxynnus]

Angel of Nessus wrote...

Oh right. Also, it wasn't hair color mods, it was harem mods. Now her hair looks GOOD. She has yet to complain. And hey, half the time I'm around, she ain't wearing NOTHING.

Yea, that's right, I said it.

She ain't wearing nothing? So she is wearing something?

[Mass Fraud]

Maria Caliban wrote...

Lies!

Seconded....
Why would she betray me when she loves me to much.

[Dick Delaware]

Kabraxal wrote...

Tragic love stories are so cliched and usually horrible now. Too many writers think tragedy equals quality drama when it really simply equals contrived slop.

I have little respect for tragedy anymore. It has been corrupted as a cop out for cheap drama,

I'm not suggesting that the romantic subplot should end tragically just for the sake of ending tragically. Yeah, you're right, that would be contrived. I'm just saying that based on current information, it doesn't seem like things will come together neatly. I personally like my endings well-developed and usually bittersweet.

[Angel of Nessus]

draxynnus wrote...

Angel of Nessus wrote...

Oh right. Also, it wasn't hair color mods, it was harem mods. Now her hair looks GOOD. She has yet to complain. And hey, half the time I'm around, she ain't wearing NOTHING.

Yea, that's right, I said it.

She ain't wearing nothing? So she is wearing something?

How dare you misinterpret my lack of fetchin' up. 

[Kabraxal]

Dick Delaware wrote...

Kabraxal wrote...

Tragic love stories are so cliched and usually horrible now. Too many writers think tragedy equals quality drama when it really simply equals contrived slop.

I have little respect for tragedy anymore. It has been corrupted as a cop out for cheap drama,

I'm not suggesting that the romantic subplot should end tragically just for the sake of ending tragically. Yeah, you're right, that would be contrived. I'm just saying that based on current information, it doesn't seem like things will come together neatly. I personally like my endings well-developed and usually bittersweet.

Since it is a multi branch story, no romance should be shoe horned into tragic, bittersweet, or happy.  There should be at least two endins, one bad/nuetral and one happy.  

[Dick Delaware]

Kabraxal wrote...
Since it is a multi branch story, no romance should be shoe horned into tragic, bittersweet, or happy.  There should be at least two endins, one bad/nuetral and one happy.  

Ah, but isn't it also shoehorning to put endings into the categories of bad/neutral and happy?

I disagree about that. It should fit within the framework of the story. The Morrigan romance arc ended exactly as it should have, was completely in character, and made perfect sense in context with her behaviour throughout the game. Sure, she is vulnerable and afraid of falling in love (and she sees it as a weakness) but she's also somewhat right in thinking that because emotions are only going to prevent her from achieving her goals. So really, the only logical end here is that she leaves, because it makes sense according to her personality, goals, and values.

If the game allowed for the possibility of Morrigan abandoning her plans for the PC, it would have made the arc a lot less profound and her character flat. As a result, I think that even allowing for the possibility of a fairy-tale ending (for lack of a better term) would be silly.

Yeah, there should be choice (choice is what makes RPG's great), but those choices have to make sense within the framework of the story. You don't have the choice to aid the darkspawn into taking over the world because it would be stupid and there is really no practical reason to help them. What would you stand to gain from helping the darkspawn, for example?

 For instance, a female PC has the choice to be with Alistair, but only if she does the Ritual. This makes the player earn the ending they want, and it presents some interesting consequences. It forces them to actually think because there's pros and cons with both solutions.

[Special_Agent_Goodwrench]

Nah, I don't think that Leliana is up to anything at all.



While she might have lied to you about her past at first, she opens up more and more. The emotion I hear in her voice tells me that Leliana is someone I could trust.



Anyhoo, if Bioware does pull a bs on Leliana, Maker help them. Brothers and sisters, I, shall supply torches and pitchforks in that situation.

[Angel of Nessus]

DrunkDeadman wrote...

Nah, I don't think that Leliana is up to anything at all.

While she might have lied to you about her past at first, she opens up more and more. The emotion I hear in her voice tells me that Leliana is someone I could trust.

Anyhoo, if Bioware does pull a bs on Leliana, Maker help them. Brothers and sisters, I, shall supply torches and pitchforks in that situation.

Stop thinking with your junk- any woman who is talented and skilled enough can fool a man into just about anything.  Leliana would have no trouble "putting emotion" into her voice.

[Special_Agent_Goodwrench]

I dunno, It's not just any emotion. It feels true, and believe me, I have a pretty good sense of a false emotions and true ones.

[Angel of Nessus]

DrunkDeadman wrote...

I dunno, It's not just any emotion. It feels true, and believe me, I have a pretty good sense of a false emotions and true ones.

And that's when the femme fatal stabs you in the spine.  GG.

[Special_Agent_Goodwrench]

Believe what you want, my friend. Believe what you want...

[Dick Delaware]

DrunkDeadman wrote...

I dunno, It's not just any emotion. It feels true, and believe me, I have a pretty good sense of a false emotions and true ones.

We believe what we want to believe. It's all we ever do.

[Angel of Nessus]

I'm just saying that if you have a beautiful girl who admits that she's a former EVERYTHING CRAZY and you say "aww, she must be sweet because she told me", you are thinking with an organ fairly far removed from your brain.

[NeoDarke]

The only companion I trust is Sten, maybe Alistair. But that's really about it.

[Giant ambush beetle]

So much for Oghren hate, he is one of the few characters you can actually trust! He's too sodding drunk to hide his feelings and intentions  - so hes a true companion.  

[Special_Agent_Goodwrench]

It has nothing to do with her being a beautiful girl telling the truth, etc. And I am thinking with my brain, it's just sometimes you also have to feel, not just think.Anyway, I just KNOW I can trust her.
Also, I wouldn't trust Oghren with my car keys, or horse, or...whatever...

[Awoken Eyes]

DrunkDeadman wrote...
Also, I wouldn't trust Oghren with my car keys, or horse, or...whatever...

I lol'd.

Now aint that the truth !

Modifié par Awoken Eyes, 12 février 2010 - 08:40 .

[Wournos]

OMG iT SpiNs 00 wrote...

Is it just me or is anyone else suspitiouse of Leliana?
Think about it, She went from being a bard to the chantry..? Not without reason....
Yes Marjolin hunted her but maybe it wasnt for the reasons she said.
In the temple at the Urn of Sacred Ashes the guy says she was lying and that the maker never came to her in a dream.
I think Leliana is going to betray you and perhaps that is why you 'Happy ever after' ends wth her at the veryend (if you romanced her.)
Any thoughts?

I romanced her and she didn't leave me at all. I just had to say the right thing after the battle and she joined me on my travels.

I like her despite her past.

[Sinister-starfeesh]

I'm onto her ¬.¬

[Maria Caliban]

Kabraxal wrote...

Since it is a multi branch story, no romance should be shoe horned into tragic, bittersweet, or happy.  There should be at least two endins, one bad/nuetral and one happy.  

I disagree. Cullen is nutters; if the Warden mage romances him, it should end badly. Morrigan is independent and views love as a weakness; if the Warden romances her, it's not going to end well.

The idea that every romance should have a happy ending because the PC invested in skill X or used dialogue branch Y is not something I support.

Sinister-starfeesh wrote...

I'm onto her ¬.¬

I'm onto, into, under, and wrapped around her.

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 12 février 2010 - 08:55 .

[Awoken Eyes]

Maria Caliban wrote...

I'm onto, into, under, and wrapped around her.

I love the way you'r thinking, its true, I really do.