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[Angel of Nessus]

I have a nuke that will kill this entire thread. Won't use it, though, 'cus it makes me laugh.

[Maria Caliban]

Sorry, I don't get the joke.

[Angel of Nessus]

Maria Caliban wrote...

Sorry, I don't get the joke.

If I explain it, then it means nothing.  Yet.

Just be sure that it continues to amuse me.

[Special_Agent_Goodwrench]

Maria Caliban wrote...

How is she being ‘THAT much of a liar’?

She’s an entertainer. Making up stories is something she’s done for years. And if you’re speaking with her, you’re her audience.

In fact, she’s obliged to entertain you. She has professional ethics. Imagine someone having a conversation with a bard and getting bored. Her reputation would be ruined!

That does not necessarily mean that she has to make stuff up. For all we know, ALL of the stories she told us might be true. And we do not simply have a conversation with a bard, we converse with a friend (or a lover) who happens to be a bard.

Just my 2 cents.

[Angel of Nessus]

DrunkDeadman wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

How is she being ‘THAT much of a liar’?

She’s an entertainer. Making up stories is something she’s done for years. And if you’re speaking with her, you’re her audience.

In fact, she’s obliged to entertain you. She has professional ethics. Imagine someone having a conversation with a bard and getting bored. Her reputation would be ruined!

That does not necessarily mean that she has to make stuff up. For all we know, ALL of the stories she told us might be true. And we do not simply have a conversation with a bard, we converse with a friend (or a lover) who happens to be a bard.

Just my 2 cents.

Or bard posing as your lover.

Trusting people in this kind of setting is risky business, so you should never let yourself get complacent.

[Special_Agent_Goodwrench]

Angel of Nessus wrote...

DrunkDeadman wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

How is she being ‘THAT much of a liar’?

She’s an entertainer. Making up stories is something she’s done for years. And if you’re speaking with her, you’re her audience.

In fact, she’s obliged to entertain you. She has professional ethics. Imagine someone having a conversation with a bard and getting bored. Her reputation would be ruined!

That does not necessarily mean that she has to make stuff up. For all we know, ALL of the stories she told us might be true. And we do not simply have a conversation with a bard, we converse with a friend (or a lover) who happens to be a bard.

Just my 2 cents.

Or bard posing as your lover.

Trusting people in this kind of setting is risky business, so you should never let yourself get complacent.

Always a possibility, but it just seems too many people think that way here. I try to be more optimistic for a change. If one day Leliana will INDEED stab me in the back, "Woohoo!" for you then. I'll be remembering all this while slowly bleeding to death.

[Angel of Nessus]

DrunkDeadman wrote...

Angel of Nessus wrote...

DrunkDeadman wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

How is she being ‘THAT much of a liar’?

She’s an entertainer. Making up stories is something she’s done for years. And if you’re speaking with her, you’re her audience.

In fact, she’s obliged to entertain you. She has professional ethics. Imagine someone having a conversation with a bard and getting bored. Her reputation would be ruined!

That does not necessarily mean that she has to make stuff up. For all we know, ALL of the stories she told us might be true. And we do not simply have a conversation with a bard, we converse with a friend (or a lover) who happens to be a bard.

Just my 2 cents.

Or bard posing as your lover.

Trusting people in this kind of setting is risky business, so you should never let yourself get complacent.

Always a possibility, but it just seems too many people think that way here. I try to be more optimistic for a change. If one day Leliana will INDEED stab me in the back, "Woohoo!" for you then. I'll be remembering all this while slowly bleeding to death.

Remember, it was Angel who told you it was a trap.

[Special_Agent_Goodwrench]

Angel of Nessus wrote...

DrunkDeadman wrote...

Angel of Nessus wrote...

DrunkDeadman wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

How is she being ‘THAT much of a liar’?

She’s an entertainer. Making up stories is something she’s done for years. And if you’re speaking with her, you’re her audience.

In fact, she’s obliged to entertain you. She has professional ethics. Imagine someone having a conversation with a bard and getting bored. Her reputation would be ruined!

That does not necessarily mean that she has to make stuff up. For all we know, ALL of the stories she told us might be true. And we do not simply have a conversation with a bard, we converse with a friend (or a lover) who happens to be a bard.

Just my 2 cents.

Or bard posing as your lover.

Trusting people in this kind of setting is risky business, so you should never let yourself get complacent.

Always a possibility, but it just seems too many people think that way here. I try to be more optimistic for a change. If one day Leliana will INDEED stab me in the back, "Woohoo!" for you then. I'll be remembering all this while slowly bleeding to death.

Remember, it was Angel who told you it was a trap.

Sometimes you just have to step into one. If it will be my fall, then let it be.

[Angel of Nessus]

DrunkDeadman wrote...

Angel of Nessus wrote...

DrunkDeadman wrote...

Angel of Nessus wrote...

DrunkDeadman wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

How is she being ‘THAT much of a liar’?

She’s an entertainer. Making up stories is something she’s done for years. And if you’re speaking with her, you’re her audience.

In fact, she’s obliged to entertain you. She has professional ethics. Imagine someone having a conversation with a bard and getting bored. Her reputation would be ruined!

That does not necessarily mean that she has to make stuff up. For all we know, ALL of the stories she told us might be true. And we do not simply have a conversation with a bard, we converse with a friend (or a lover) who happens to be a bard.

Just my 2 cents.

Or bard posing as your lover.

Trusting people in this kind of setting is risky business, so you should never let yourself get complacent.

Always a possibility, but it just seems too many people think that way here. I try to be more optimistic for a change. If one day Leliana will INDEED stab me in the back, "Woohoo!" for you then. I'll be remembering all this while slowly bleeding to death.

Remember, it was Angel who told you it was a trap.

Sometimes you just have to step into one. If it will be my fall, then let it be.

I understand, but its like

You:  Hmm, I'm in an ancient temple and there is a pretty shaft of light coming from the wall to my left.  I'm fairly sure I saw something exactly like this in a movie somewhere that leads me to believe that touching the light is a bad idea.

But on the other hand, it's soooo pretty.

[Special_Agent_Goodwrench]

Angel of Nessus wrote...

DrunkDeadman wrote...

Angel of Nessus wrote...

DrunkDeadman wrote...

Angel of Nessus wrote...

DrunkDeadman wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

How is she being ‘THAT much of a liar’?

She’s an entertainer. Making up stories is something she’s done for years. And if you’re speaking with her, you’re her audience.

In fact, she’s obliged to entertain you. She has professional ethics. Imagine someone having a conversation with a bard and getting bored. Her reputation would be ruined!

That does not necessarily mean that she has to make stuff up. For all we know, ALL of the stories she told us might be true. And we do not simply have a conversation with a bard, we converse with a friend (or a lover) who happens to be a bard.

Just my 2 cents.

Or bard posing as your lover.

Trusting people in this kind of setting is risky business, so you should never let yourself get complacent.

Always a possibility, but it just seems too many people think that way here. I try to be more optimistic for a change. If one day Leliana will INDEED stab me in the back, "Woohoo!" for you then. I'll be remembering all this while slowly bleeding to death.

Remember, it was Angel who told you it was a trap.

Sometimes you just have to step into one. If it will be my fall, then let it be.

I understand, but its like

You:  Hmm, I'm in an ancient temple and there is a pretty shaft of light coming from the wall to my left.  I'm fairly sure I saw something exactly like this in a movie somewhere that leads me to believe that touching the light is a bad idea.

But on the other hand, it's soooo pretty.

Unless it's a really, really pretty light that makes me go  then hell no, I won't touch it.

[Angel of Nessus]

DrunkDeadman wrote...

Angel of Nessus wrote...

DrunkDeadman wrote...

Angel of Nessus wrote...

DrunkDeadman wrote...

Angel of Nessus wrote...

DrunkDeadman wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

How is she being ‘THAT much of a liar’?

She’s an entertainer. Making up stories is something she’s done for years. And if you’re speaking with her, you’re her audience.

In fact, she’s obliged to entertain you. She has professional ethics. Imagine someone having a conversation with a bard and getting bored. Her reputation would be ruined!

That does not necessarily mean that she has to make stuff up. For all we know, ALL of the stories she told us might be true. And we do not simply have a conversation with a bard, we converse with a friend (or a lover) who happens to be a bard.

Just my 2 cents.

Or bard posing as your lover.

Trusting people in this kind of setting is risky business, so you should never let yourself get complacent.

Always a possibility, but it just seems too many people think that way here. I try to be more optimistic for a change. If one day Leliana will INDEED stab me in the back, "Woohoo!" for you then. I'll be remembering all this while slowly bleeding to death.

Remember, it was Angel who told you it was a trap.

Sometimes you just have to step into one. If it will be my fall, then let it be.

I understand, but its like

You:  Hmm, I'm in an ancient temple and there is a pretty shaft of light coming from the wall to my left.  I'm fairly sure I saw something exactly like this in a movie somewhere that leads me to believe that touching the light is a bad idea.

But on the other hand, it's soooo pretty.

Unless it's a really, really pretty light that makes me go  then hell no, I won't touch it.

It would have to be a rainbow for me, and even then i would be a bit reluctant.

[sterki]

you can just... ask leliana to touch the light kkkkkkkkkkk



and i still hold my position , yes , she tells you a lot of things , and these things are just what she said, she could be lying or telling the truth , who knows , who can trust in a bard !?



not the all bards use theyr skills to some "dirty jobs" but in a time of a blight , things going to a mess , it´s normal , it´s wise , not to trust bards.



it´s the same as the future president telling you to vote him and why do so

[Burningwolf]

She went through hell with my wardens.Skull fracture's,arms mangled,eye's gouged et all.I think the poor girl too 60+ wounds in the main playthrough and she still kept coming to me in my tent.Yes,yer past may be checkered,but the girl takes a lot of hits and stays around.Out of everyone in the roster she has the most wounds taken by at least 50.I'm pretty willing to give her a free pass due to all those scars she took for me.



Oh...and I did do the Elven Leiliana (default) mod.I think it makes her look sooooo much better.

[sterki]

elven leliana?

what´s this?

[Kileyan]

I don't really care about Leliana in particular, but I hope they don't go the way of making every companion betray you in some way, just to get rid of them for future projects. It would get old really fast. Morrigan was a novel twist, keep doing it, all you do is make sure that people don't bother to explore the game characters, and just click through the dialog as quickly as possible in order to get back to treasure hunting.

[MightySword]

Maria Caliban wrote...
It's true! I still remember the cries of pain when she waded into the Cullen fangirls.

And all those stories Leliana tells?
"Here's a happy tale about the first female knight. She gets her throat slit!"

"Here's a story about a man and woman who love one another. They both die! It's been hundreds of years and their souls are still desperately trying to touch one another again.. and failing!"

"Here's a story about the Maker's Bride. Her husband betrays her and she ends up roasting like a suckling pig until someone stabs her in the heart. Whenever I'm feeling down, I like to think of this and my faith is renewed." 

I honestly wanted to ask her if she knew *any* happy stories. She’d probably look confused and tell me those were the happy stories. Her others are much more depressing.

What you actual wrote is nothing special, but somehow the smileys made for an epic win complement, weird

[Lenimph]

Reasons why Leliana won't betray me...



-She has no reason to (Go ahead and try to think of one, well she does on my Cousland cuz I dumped her for Alistair to be Queen but I would personally find it hilarious if she killed me for it)

-Marjoline is dead/gone and she was Leliana's major(if not only) connection to the bard life.

-I'm a damn good lover/friend. Besides if Leliana was really trying to trick/seduce the warden what would she need such a high *enter my tent* approval for.



And as for the whole Gaurdian of the Ashes thing, the questions and accusations are a test. So the gaurdian is probably lying as well. Leliana probably did like the attention the "vision" gave her but I doubt she made it up just to get extra attention like the Gaurdian suggested, cause there are plenty of other ways to do that... liking taking a bite out of forbidden fruit *snicker*



Meh the only way I can be content if Leliana left me was if she went off to start some new branch of the chantry that believed that the Maker still watched over everyone; parelling the many branches of Christianity. I would never let Leliana do the joining, so that whole trying to become a grey warden is bs to me.

[Wournos]

Burningwolf wrote...

She went through hell with my wardens.Skull fracture's,arms mangled,eye's gouged et all.I think the poor girl too 60+ wounds in the main playthrough and she still kept coming to me in my tent.Yes,yer past may be checkered,but the girl takes a lot of hits and stays around.Out of everyone in the roster she has the most wounds taken by at least 50.I'm pretty willing to give her a free pass due to all those scars she took for me.

Oh...and I did do the Elven Leiliana (default) mod.I think it makes her look sooooo much better.

Ok, that doesn't exactly prove anything. ...other than you being terrible at keeping her alive.
All of my companions had several injuries and they all stuck with me. They still do on my second and third playthrough.

[nubbers666]

its rather simple she only travels with you because she new that her past life was catching up with here and witch case traveling with grey wardens = safety that the chantry wouldn't be able to provide



lol

[Dethanos]

If her religious beliefs were not sincere, then why would she turn on you for tainting the Urn of Sacred Ashes?