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[tonnactus]

Nightwriter wrote...


What the hell? Come on, the opening scene? Wilson's numbers were wrong and if Miranda hadn't been there holding his hand and telling him what to do there's no knowing what would've happened.

She said:Your numbers must be wrong.Make the calculations again.Not she did that,wilson did them.

[kraidy1117]

tonnactus wrote...

NICKjnp wrote...


You forget that she was the leader of the Project Lazarus team... the one that brought Shepard back to life.

You know that this project nearly ends in a disaster??
Wilson did all the scientific work and underestimate shepardt combat abilities after he/she woke up.All she did was telling shepardt the place of a pistol and armor.Thats it.

Wilson almopst killed Shepard at the start because his numbers where wrong, Miri saved Shepard. Great job at failing.

[tonnactus]

kraidy1117 wrote...


Wilson almopst killed Shepard at the start because his numbers where wrong,

Maybee he wanted to do that?The point is,miranda didnt see that his numbers where wrong until sheaprdt nearly woked up.
That is failing.

Modifié par tonnactus, 20 avril 2010 - 12:34 .

[kraidy1117]

tonnactus wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...


Wilson almopst killed Shepard at the start because his numbers where wrong,

Maybee he wanted to do that?

*facepalm* then that shows Miri is in fact a good leader, and not Wilson. You just contradicted your self. Congrats.

[tonnactus]

kraidy1117 wrote...

*facepalm* then that shows Miri is in fact a good leader, and not Wilson. You just contradicted your self. Congrats.

Yes.Advise to inject calamtives is a great leadership every nurse could do.

[kraidy1117]

tonnactus wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...


Wilson almopst killed Shepard at the start because his numbers where wrong,

Maybee he wanted to do that?The point is,miranda didnt see that his numbers where wrong until sheaprdt nearly woked up.
That is failing.

"Sometigs wrong"
"Cheack the numbers"
"OMG Miranda, I tihnk hes waking up"
"Dammit he's not ready, give him a sedutive (spelling)
"It's not working, hes oging into shock"
*Miranda does something and Shepard is well"
"I told you to cheack the numbers"

Thats how it goes, Miranda saved the whole operation and she was in charge,m she was too make sure Shepard made it out alive. Can you fail anymore or are you going to stop?

[Nightwriter]

tonnactus wrote...

Nightwriter wrote...


What the hell? Come on, the opening scene? Wilson's numbers were wrong and if Miranda hadn't been there holding his hand and telling him what to do there's no knowing what would've happened.

She said:Your numbers must be wrong.Make the calculations again.Not she did that,wilson did them.

She's the freaking boss and he's her underling. She's the brains behind the operations, she gives the orders, she doesn't do it herself.

[tonnactus]

[quote]kraidy1117 wrote...

[quote]tonnactus wrote...

"Sometigs wrong"
"Cheack the numbers"
"OMG Miranda, I tihnk hes waking up"
"Dammit he's not ready, give him a sedutive (spelling)
"It's not working, hes oging into shock"
*Miranda does something and Shepard is well"
"I told you to cheack the numbers"

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Lol.Too bad she couldnt check the numbers on her own to prevent such an situation,right?
But believe what you want.

[kraidy1117]

[quote]tonnactus wrote...

[quote]kraidy1117 wrote...

[quote]tonnactus wrote...

"Sometigs wrong"
"Cheack the numbers"
"OMG Miranda, I tihnk hes waking up"
"Dammit he's not ready, give him a sedutive (spelling)
"It's not working, hes oging into shock"
*Miranda does something and Shepard is well"
"I told you to cheack the numbers"

[/quote]

Lol.Too bad she couldnt check the numbers on her own to prevent such an situation,right?
But believe what you want.


[/quote]



I am not even going to continue............

[tonnactus]

Nightwriter wrote...


She's the freaking boss and he's her underling.

At least bosses with some knowledge control the work of her underlings and could find mistakes in them.

[Nightwriter]

tonnactus wrote...

Nightwriter wrote...


She's the freaking boss and he's her underling.

At least bosses with some knowledge control the work of her underlings and could find mistakes in them.

What does this even mean? She is a boss, she does have knowledge, she does control the work of her underlings and she did find mistakes in them.

[Jax Sparrow]

kraidy1117 wrote...

tonnactus wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...



Funny saying the is not a leader as one of her powers is Leader a

Just another stupid game design decision,nothing more.

Don't give me that crap, you can hate her but don't try to say she is not a leader. We don't even know the full story about what happen with Wilson, for all we know it could have been a trap that Miri and TIM where going to do and Wilson snapped.<_< haters will always hate.

I completely agree, haters almost always try to rationalize their hatred with reason and logic, as if that makes it ok to hate.  Blaming Miranda for Wilson and failing to give a crap about a psychotic crazy teenage ß!τ<╫, is just silly and wrong.  Crazy people's brains don't work like healthy people and they defy "reason" and "logic" by default.  In my mind that includes Wilson, I wish there is an option to kill Wilson when you first meet him.

[kraidy1117]

Jax Sparrow wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

tonnactus wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...



Funny saying the is not a leader as one of her powers is Leader a

Just another stupid game design decision,nothing more.

Don't give me that crap, you can hate her but don't try to say she is not a leader. We don't even know the full story about what happen with Wilson, for all we know it could have been a trap that Miri and TIM where going to do and Wilson snapped.<_< haters will always hate.

I completely agree, haters almost always try to rationalize their hatred with reason and logic, as if that makes it ok to hate.  Blaming Miranda for Wilson and failing to give a crap about a psychotic crazy teenage ß!τ<╫, is just silly and wrong.  Crazy people's brains don't work like healthy people and they defy "reason" and "logic" by default.  In my mind that includes Wilson, I wish there is an option to kill Wilson when you first meet him.

Wilson just gives me a bad vibe when I first met him, just did't feel right.

[MrNose]

tonnactus wrote...

Nightwriter wrote...


She's the freaking boss and he's her underling.

At least bosses with some knowledge control the work of her underlings and could find mistakes in them.

Miranda has leadership as one of her qualities and is one of the three who can lead a crew during the SM.
In otherwords: BioWare says she's a leader, that's Word of God.  
It's not up for a discussion.  If the dev's say that she's a leader then she's a leader. 

[Nodster]

Flippen Heck! All these responses and not one of them actually replies to what I asked?



Did anyone else have Miranda always too busy to talk after Jacob blabs about his past with her??

Also, why wont Jack become loyal even though I have 95% paragon?? it seems that most ppl did it with 75%

[gauntz]

I don't think there was anything romantic between Miranda and Jacob. Miranda expresses it pretty clearly that her relationship with Shepard is kind of a first for her (not sexually, but romantically.) Miranda is an ice queen, I doubt she has had any non-professional relations with a goody two shoes like Jacob. The stuff that Jacob talks about, not being good enough for Miranda seems to me to tell of differing paths during game design. Perhaps a relationship was planned by one developer yet discontinued by another, that this part of the game wasn't finished; whatever, it didn't make any sense lorewise/personality/history-wise.

[Nodster]

I just dont get why she hasnt spoken to me since I did Jacobs quest.. Really sucks!

[tonnactus]

Nightwriter wrote...

tonnactus wrote...

Nightwriter wrote...


She's the freaking boss and he's her underling.

At least bosses with some knowledge control the work of her underlings and could find mistakes in them.

What does this even mean? She is a boss, she does have knowledge, she does control the work of her underlings and she did find mistakes in them.

I make it short(and this is my last post in this thread anyway).Her results:
Nearly all personnel got killed. Expensive prototype technology is destroyed. Shepardt and jacob make it out alive barely with a lot of luck (dont meet heavy mechs on their way).
This is clear failing. No company in the world would hire her fur such an important job again. Everyone with at least one working braincell und who isnt a miranda fanboy would agree with that.
Its so fun and ironic when she blamed joker for loosing all the ship personnel and nearly the ship too.You got the same results,******.

Modifié par tonnactus, 20 avril 2010 - 12:39 .

[DPSSOC]

tonnactus wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...


Wilson almopst killed Shepard at the start because his numbers where wrong,

Maybee he wanted to do that?The point is,miranda didnt see that his numbers where wrong until sheaprdt nearly woked up.
That is failing.

The exact quote is, "I told you your estimates were off.  Run the numbers again."

seen here at 2:22

Miranda did see his numbers were wrong, told him so, and my guess is he assured her they were accurate.  When you hire someone who's supposed to be competent (I got the impression there was a very short list of people qualified to work on the project) you tend to trust their judgements.  For example if a structural engineer tells you that a building will hold even if you have doubts most people will trust the expert.  Miranda may have some medical knowledge but Wilson is supposed to be the expert.

[Frekken]

DPSSOC wrote...

tonnactus wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...


Wilson almopst killed Shepard at the start because his numbers where wrong,

Maybee he wanted to do that?The point is,miranda didnt see that his numbers where wrong until sheaprdt nearly woked up.
That is failing.

The exact quote is, "I told you your estimates were off.  Run the numbers again."

seen here at 2:22

Miranda did see his numbers were wrong, told him so, and my guess is he assured her they were accurate.  When you hire someone who's supposed to be competent (I got the impression there was a very short list of people qualified to work on the project) you tend to trust their judgements.  For example if a structural engineer tells you that a building will hold even if you have doubts most people will trust the expert.  Miranda may have some medical knowledge but Wilson is supposed to be the expert.

We only have Miranda's word for it that Wilson is responsible. Is miranda cold blooded enough to sacrifice a whole station of people in order to test the combat abilities of Shepard? I would say yes. What better way to test his reactions than in a controlled setting with a bunch of mechs under your control. Plus you can put him further in your debt by "waking" him and guideing him out.

Convenient that you never meet a heavy mech on your way out.
Convenient that Wilson leaves his private diary ramblings on unsecured systems thoughout your escape route.
Convenient that Wilson gets shot before he can even get a word out.
Convenient that MIranda hustles you off the station before you have a chance to explore too much.
Convenient that Miranda shows up right as you are about to escape, then convinces you not to wait for anyone else. Good thing you bumped into jacob on the way out as well.. How big is this station?
Convenient that they were storing your weapon and armor in the med bay...

Just saying.. no need to spread it around.

[tonnactus]

Frekken wrote...

We only have Miranda's word for it that Wilson is responsible.

It would be great if wilson was just the pawn.The easy access to such logs.He couldnt be so dumb.But i could also be bad writing.Or cerberus is really thinking that shepardt is a complete moron.

[DPSSOC]

tonnactus wrote...

Frekken wrote...

We only have Miranda's word for it that Wilson is responsible.

It would be great if wilson was just the pawn.The easy access to such logs.He couldnt be so dumb.But i could also be bad writing.Or cerberus is really thinking that shepardt is a complete moron.

You'd be surprised.  People, and intelligence seems to be no protection, can be mind bogglingly stupid from time to time.  It is odd though that they're just kinda lying around though, I mean I could understand him making those logs and thinking them secure when they're not but you'd think they'd be in a single location, like his quarters.

[Frekken]

DPSSOC wrote...

tonnactus wrote...

Frekken wrote...

We only have Miranda's word for it that Wilson is responsible.

It would be great if wilson was just the pawn.The easy access to such logs.He couldnt be so dumb.But i could also be bad writing.Or cerberus is really thinking that shepardt is a complete moron.

You'd be surprised.  People, and intelligence seems to be no protection, can be mind bogglingly stupid from time to time.  It is odd though that they're just kinda lying around though, I mean I could understand him making those logs and thinking them secure when they're not but you'd think they'd be in a single location, like his quarters.

Good thing Miranda killed him before he could be questioned. I mean three highly trained operatives probably couldn't have kept a medical geek with a pistol secure long enough to get him to a secure area. I would think it would be imperative to find out if theres a third party out to destroy Shepard who has the contacts to turn a trusted Cerberus agent. Either Miranda is an idiot, or she's hiding something.

[tonnactus]

Frekken wrote...
 Either Miranda is an idiot, or she's hiding something.

If she and the illusive man are responsible for what happened on the lazarus station and wilson was just a pawn, its just another reason to get her killed at the end of Mass Effect 2.The other reason is that i dont trust her anyway and minimize the risks that she could backstab me in Me3.

Modifié par tonnactus, 21 avril 2010 - 02:49 .

[Gavinthelocust]

ComTrav wrote...

Probably. Uncertain as to how long/how serious it was. Long discussion about it on the Miranda thread the other day. Didn't last probably due to some combination of Miranda's intimacy issues, Jacob's confidence issues, and the Lazarus project taking up all Miranda's time.

Personally, I think it adds to Miranda's character that she's a mature woman who has been in serious relationships before.

I read this post in Mordin's voice and many lols were had.

ANYWAY I guess Miranda didn't like "the prize".