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This reminds me of that C-Sec officer dealing with Jenna in ME1. One of his lines is unmodified and it's a real wtf moment.

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OniGanon wrote...

This reminds me of that C-Sec officer dealing with Jenna in ME1. One of his lines is unmodified and it's a real wtf moment.

You mean this? Look at 2:10

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Also in ME1 if you bring Tali to Ilos some of the lines she delivers are also un-modified which shows it's just a slip up.

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kaff33nd wrote...
You mean this? Look at 2:10


No I actually meant the line at 9:45 so I guess he had more than the one line unmodified.

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Hmmm... the difference seems to be just pitch, not any kind of distortion. Maybe Tali's voice glitch is pitch related as well?

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Negative on that commander. Tali's production goof could have been avoided if the sound team simply provided the production team with an unfiltered transition in Liz Sroka's line. Imagine that very last word spoken without distorted filters. Preview the vision here: watch it at 3:15 - 3:22.

And I concur, ME 1 has to many audio dialogue faults.

Let us hope part 3 will have this and all other dialogue pieces perfected :)

Modifié par Lord Methrid, 08 mars 2010 - 09:54 .


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There is also the possibility that the quarians true speech is either too high pitched (think I saw somewhere they may be birdlike) or just different enough that they have a synthesizer attached to their throats so is independent of the mask which is truly for breathing only..



Just my 2 cents worth

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It's not a bad assumption but when you take a look at the said intimacy scene, you will notice there were no differences in the sound effects of her voice. Since we clearly hear them kissing shortly after Shepard removes her mask, you can assume there is no other housing on the front part of her helmet that would cause her to still sound like she's speaking inside one. Just my two cents as well ;)

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That's exactly what I mean, remove the mask and they can still communicate. We today have people whom have lost the ability to speak normally and have a mic pickup on their neck near the voicebox. Don't think its too far fetched to think that they may have something like that either directly attached to the neck or part of their enviro-suits neck material to do the same thing.



btw Tali IS the only one worth knowing in ME2 :)

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^ Too true

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blank1 wrote...

Personally, I think it's retarded that all these aliens who evolved thousands of light years from us are all uber-humanoid. I hope she has a tentacle face.

But for reals... the Hanar are the only remotely "alien" species. Everyone else is very humanoid. 2 arms, 2 legs, vocalize in frequencies the human ear can hear, communicate vocally in the first place, etc.


I think it is this is talked about in one of the books.  Probably Revelation since it is a prequel novel to ME1, but not sure which one.  Anyway one of the characters talks about the two arm, two leg commonality and thinks that maybe the humanoid look may be because that is the best design evolutionary speaking.  That is why so many "alien" races look like humans and vice versa.

It sounds plausible and even in the book it is simply a theory but that is the one I use to explain it.

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Prince Keldar wrote...

blank1 wrote...

Personally, I think it's retarded that all these aliens who evolved thousands of light years from us are all uber-humanoid. I hope she has a tentacle face.

But for reals... the Hanar are the only remotely "alien" species. Everyone else is very humanoid. 2 arms, 2 legs, vocalize in frequencies the human ear can hear, communicate vocally in the first place, etc.


I think it is this is talked about in one of the books.  Probably Revelation since it is a prequel novel to ME1, but not sure which one.  Anyway one of the characters talks about the two arm, two leg commonality and thinks that maybe the humanoid look may be because that is the best design evolutionary speaking.  That is why so many "alien" races look like humans and vice versa.

It sounds plausible and even in the book it is simply a theory but that is the one I use to explain it.

If you do one of the N7 missions you can find Quarian skeletons.  The skull looks remarkably human.  As for the robotic voice, I believe Harbinger says something pertaining to this if you battle him with Tali.

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cgrimm54 wrote...
If you do one of the N7 missions you can find Quarian skeletons.  The skull looks remarkably human.  As for the robotic voice, I believe Harbinger says something pertaining to this if you battle him with Tali.

Someone extracted the mesh on those skeletons.  They are human.

But quarians do have cybernetics.  It's even part of Tali's passive skill in ME2.

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Shala's voice actor is really, really good. They have good VO's, just need to work out the kinks.

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On the quarian voice issue, Ascension says they can actually speak human without difficulty, so they've presumably got a reasonably similar mouth setup.



Additionally, that last word in Tali's romance dialogue is a separate sound file, I think. Make of that what you will.

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Arhka wrote...

Shala's voice actor is really, really good. They have good VO's, just need to work out the kinks.


With as many hours upon hours of audio files that the BW team must have stored, it's reasonable the think that a few errors would slip though.
I mean, just look at all of the thousands of audio clips we can listen to from tons of different actors, and there's no telling how many other recorded lines were cut from the game.
Honestly, I think that Tali's voice in that scene was just a fluke in the game, but before I was always convinced that the quarian audio output was located on the mouthpiece. Something by the throat would be possible, but there's exactly much room for anything.

Heck, we'll probably find out way or another in ME3, anyway. . . hopefully.

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I remember listening to that part very carefully - 'cause I wanted to hear the voice without the synthesizer as well. I *thought* it was synthesized the first time I heard it, but subsequent playbacks leave me unsure. It's one of those words where you wouldn't hear much of the distortion, and she says it in a quiet manner. I don't know, I think it could go either way.

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She's probably a reaper.

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epoch_ wrote...

She's probably a reaper.


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NuclearBuddha wrote...

cgrimm54 wrote...
If you do one of the N7 missions you can find Quarian skeletons.  The skull looks remarkably human.  As for the robotic voice, I believe Harbinger says something pertaining to this if you battle him with Tali.

Someone extracted the mesh on those skeletons.  They are human.

But quarians do have cybernetics.  It's even part of Tali's passive skill in ME2.

I was not aware of the extraction, but they are surrounding a quarian in a destroyed quarian camp, and to me the legs look quarian-esque.  I suppose we'll have to wait until ME3 to find out.

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epoch_ wrote...

She's probably a reaper.

this is off topic. But your picture...is that your ME character?

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cgrimm54 wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...
Someone extracted the mesh on those skeletons.  They are human.

But quarians do have cybernetics.  It's even part of Tali's passive skill in ME2.

I was not aware of the extraction, but they are surrounding a quarian in a destroyed quarian camp, and to me the legs look quarian-esque.  I suppose we'll have to wait until ME3 to find out.

Sure, it could be programmer laziness (plenty of that to go around).  However, the meshes, when examined without the ground in the way, pretty clearly have five fingers.

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I must be odd I herd a change to me those two words sounded far more clear and less synthesized then before, guess it me.

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Honestly, I did not notice that her voice didn't change until reading this thread.



Probably just a slip.





As for the humanoid-form bias...



The hanar and the elcor aren't humanoid, and the volus are only broadly human-like. Part of what we're seeing might be that the "humanoid" races have more in common and interact more. And it's not like the basic human form is without its advantages in developing communicating, tool-using intelligence.