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[grayfox4000]

Tali was enough of friends in ME1. Thats why shes better that way to get into a relationship with cus you where already friends. Shes got the personality, mysterious, shyness, badass tomboy with a shotgun who shoots stuff dead, has a knife in her boot, smart as hell computer nerd engineer, who can take a circuit board, a piece of scrap metal, and element zero and have a ship doing precision jumps in no time. Shes perky. has epic hips made for bareing children, those bunz. Shes not human best of all. I'm tired of humans, I want hot humanoid cross species intercourse with a mysterious glowy eyed genius woman gods darn it. @_@; Hell the sex is prob better for her cus it could kill her if some bad sickness comes along tho unlikely. Its just the thought of getting so hot it could be deadly. It might excite her, she seems to be the dangerous type, coming with me and all to save the universe the 1st time 2nd time going on a mission where we might never come back from. Yeah she likes to live dangerously.

Whats not to love?

Modifié par grayfox4000, 12 février 2010 - 12:25 .

[Ajspeed]

I did like the characters they brought in later in ME2 they felt like alot more should be known of them like thane, hes awesome i wanted to know more about his past and Samara (who should have been a romaceable one too) had heaps she could have talked about but the game was sort of set up for those 2 to leave anyway with thane dying ans Samara on promising to do the suicide mission

[MutantSpleen]

This is one of the poor aspects of Mass Effect 2. It takes almost no digging to get their loyalty missions, it just seems to be a timed thing and once you have done them I saw little point in further coversation with most of the squad members.



In comparison Dragon Age, had layers and layers of personal information to peel away. It was actually difficult to open up some of the character's personal quests. They just seemed a lot more indepth to me. Plus the banter between the different companions in Dragon Age was so well done and that aspect was virtually non-existent in ME2



Having just come off playing dragon Age right into Mass Effect 2 made me a bit disappointed at the lack of depth in ME2 characters.

[hawat333]

op: Agreed on the lack of friendship part.

Modifié par hawat333, 12 février 2010 - 01:20 .

[MutantSpleen]

Sigh_Blaise wrote...

I agree. Femshep would have been happy to call it off with Kaiden after the way he acted, but since she didn't want sex with an alien and Jacob was a bit boring it would have been nice to hang out with the girls -- Miranda, Tali and Jack. But Miranda and Tali didn't want to speak to me and Jack just got plain nasty about it.
It would have been nice for femshep and Miranda to have a close friendship instead of a romance (she was my favourite!), maybe share a bottle of wine or something, but since they couldn't femshep spent her final night looking at the picture of the jackass she regretted keeping alive from ME1!

I know exactly what you mean.  I was so pissed about Kaidan that I went back to my ME1 game replayed from Virmire on and got Kaidan nuked and made Liara my LI and started a new play of ME2.   At least she is warm and receptive to me (I know not as much as some hoped, but she wasn't a jackass either)

[Nozybidaj]

MutantSpleen wrote...

This is one of the poor aspects of Mass Effect 2. It takes almost no digging to get their loyalty missions, it just seems to be a timed thing and once you have done them I saw little point in further coversation with most of the squad members.

In comparison Dragon Age, had layers and layers of personal information to peel away. It was actually difficult to open up some of the character's personal quests. They just seemed a lot more indepth to me. Plus the banter between the different companions in Dragon Age was so well done and that aspect was virtually non-existent in ME2

Having just come off playing dragon Age right into Mass Effect 2 made me a bit disappointed at the lack of depth in ME2 characters.

Agreed, the DA:O characters were much better.  The romances as well were handled much better.  The ME team should spend some time with the DA team prior to starting ME3.

[WilliamShatner]

MutantSpleen wrote...

This is one of the poor aspects of Mass Effect 2. It takes almost no digging to get their loyalty missions, it just seems to be a timed thing and once you have done them I saw little point in further coversation with most of the squad members.

In comparison Dragon Age, had layers and layers of personal information to peel away. It was actually difficult to open up some of the character's personal quests. They just seemed a lot more indepth to me. Plus the banter between the different companions in Dragon Age was so well done and that aspect was virtually non-existent in ME2

Having just come off playing dragon Age right into Mass Effect 2 made me a bit disappointed at the lack of depth in ME2 characters.

Indeed.  If DA:O was ME2 instead of talking to Leliana to get her to open up about her past and get her quest, you'd just have to wait for a carrier pigeon to tell you she wants to talk.  Do quest.   Bam.  Romanced.  The End.

Magic.

[Apostian]

Well it's nice to know I wasn't alone in my opinions. I certainly hope the devs add more on a friendship level in the next one.



Also, I never really understood why everyone seems to like Legion so much. I was still stuck in an ME1 state of mind so pretty much hated the geth. And you're damn right I blew up the heretic base

[Jedi_blues]

I agree with the OP but it is a lot easier if you play a male Shep. That basically leaves Tali, Miranda, and Jack as being the only ones you want to avoid if you want to stay true to your LI from ME 1. Only two if you start a new LI.

[gr00grams]

You can actually have friendships with the LI's.

My femsheps Jacob wants to:



"Live large, bla bla spill some drinks on the citadel" then he proceeds to give her some kinda gangsta handshake.



You just have to manuver the conversations.

Same for Garrus. Haven't tried thane.

[Ferocious7]

MutantSpleen wrote...
In comparison Dragon Age, had layers and layers of personal information to peel away. It was actually difficult to open up some of the character's personal quests. They just seemed a lot more indepth to me. Plus the banter between the different companions in Dragon Age was so well done and that aspect was virtually non-existent in ME2

Having just come off playing dragon Age right into Mass Effect 2 made me a bit disappointed at the lack of depth in ME2 characters.

DA:O is great.... but your character has the personality of a rock.  You barely hear his/her voice.  The only good thing there was the Leliana F/F scene... that's where your character showed the most emotion... oh that and slaying the Archdemon.

Both games are great, but it's unfair to compare them.   I think both are very deep.... the friendship levels are fine enough.... I honestly don't want to spend the entire game building up friendships.  You can play Sims 3 for that.   I think there's enough dialogue.... I'd rather see more action and bring back the full blown F/F that DA:O had and ME1 had (Yes, Liara may not literally be female.. but her species is the humans female equal... we just have more variety thus the genders, races, etc.. so no matter what, that was still F/F in my book).

ME2 did a great job, you have so many options whether it be playing favorites, helping out or screwing up loyalty missions, etc.... it really, REALLY added depth that most have yet to explore because the game is still new.

Hopefully we get some really good DLC and expansion pack(s).

[GnusmasTHX]

I've stayed with a non-existent Liara romance for all three playthroughs... Still a fine game.

[Mox Ruuga]

Haven't played a FemShep yet in ME2, but from what I've read they've written her as really over the top flirty compared to the cool and collected professional soldier of ME1. Perhaps this is the result of the writers listening to the people who thought FemShep wasn't "feminine" enough? They shouldn't force you to flirt with your squaddies, tho from what I've read seems like that's exactly what happens if you talk to Jacob for even a little bit.

Hopefully you aren't forced to flirt with Garrus and Thane? Because then they will die in the suicide mission for FemShep. Every time. I don't appreciate out of character behaviour forced on me...

Devs, please, no more nonsense like this in ME3. Bring back the professional N7 soldier, who just happens to be a woman.

[Keltoris]

It's quite easy to not flirt.



"Avoid the top right option."



Hell, I take the "We could blow off steam sometime" line with Garrus, just because I like the 'turndown' line.

[asaiasai]

I think in this case what they need to do is open up the romances to anyone the PC wants to romance. The PC would have work to build thier friendship level up enough to unlock an actual "Express Romantic Interest" dialog option with the NPC of thier choice. This way the PC could reveal thier intentions or could just remain friends with that NPC without having to watch how many times or what you say to a NPC. I would even suggest that once the dialog option is used for a specific NPC of the players choice then it would not be avaliable to use on any other NPC. I would even go so far as to make a mini game out of it, saying the right thing, buying the right item, using them on missions should all have an impact on whether you could romance that NPC.



Asai

[Taritu]

The one that irritated me the most was on a femshep runthrough. I go down to see if Jack has anything new to say and she assumes I want a romance with her, and tells me off pretty damn rudely.



Which I guess would be ok, if I had an option to say "look b****, I was just being friendly. I'm already with someone and I wouldn't sleep with your skanky ass if you were the last b**** in the universe."



Or even a friendlier version.



As for Mordin, his version was hilarious.



And with Jacob, I just stopped talking to him, though that's the fault of Femshep. It seemed everything she said to him had this flirtatious edge, and it irritated me since I was completely uninterested.

[Sharn01]

If you play a femShep there should be only two converstion's with Jacob. Ship upgrade and getting the loyalty mission, other then that it feels like the game tries to force a romance down your throat.

[Tamyn]

Mox Ruuga wrote...

Hopefully you aren't forced to flirt with Garrus and Thane? Because then they will die in the suicide mission for FemShep. Every time. I don't appreciate out of character behaviour forced on me...

Devs, please, no more nonsense like this in ME3. Bring back the professional N7 soldier, who just happens to be a woman.

With Garrus and Thane there is only one line in one conversation that activates their romance. With Garrus there is only one initial line that makes FemShep sound flirtatious with him ("Not what I meant"), and that is after a line that has her ask him about blowing off steam. Even if you accidently pick the "blowing off steam" option, you can avoid a romance by choosing the sparring (lower-right) option. Before that it's all friendship.
 
Thane actually has two conversations where FemShep can flirt, but only the second one activates the romance ("I want you Thane"; very obvious). With Garrus and Thane the flirt options are all upper-right options. You can be friends with Thane and have some good conversations even if you don't romance him. Garrus cuts off after his post-Sidonis convo if you don't romance him.

Modifié par Tamyn, 13 février 2010 - 10:01 .

[gr00grams]

You can even choose those top options, and develop a pure friendship.

Again, I have done with with Jacob and Garrus, yet to talk to Thane.

[Mox Ruuga]

Tamyn wrote...

With Garrus and Thane there is only one line in one conversation that activates their romance. With Garrus there is only one initial line that makes FemShep sound flirtatious with him. Before that it's all friendship. Thane actually has two conversations where FemShep can flirt, but only the second one activates the romance. With Garrus and Thane the flirt options are all upper-right options.

Indeed? Good to know, will improve their survival rate.

Hopefully the situation with Jacob isn't as bad as people are making it seem... Will soon see for myself, current ME1 game is a FemShep sentinel.

[DirewolfX]

MutantSpleen wrote...

This is one of the poor aspects of Mass Effect 2. It takes almost no digging to get their loyalty missions, it just seems to be a timed thing and once you have done them I saw little point in further coversation with most of the squad members.

In comparison Dragon Age, had layers and layers of personal information to peel away. It was actually difficult to open up some of the character's personal quests. They just seemed a lot more indepth to me. Plus the banter between the different companions in Dragon Age was so well done and that aspect was virtually non-existent in ME2

Having just come off playing dragon Age right into Mass Effect 2 made me a bit disappointed at the lack of depth in ME2 characters.

It was difficult getting people to open up in DA because you needed to spend a fortune buying them useless trinkets to get their favor up.  It had a little more dialog for some of the characters (i.e. Leliana) but others just wanted to get in the sack with me immediately (Morrigan).  And then some of the dialog trees were buggy (some people couldn't get morrigan to sleep with them if their reputation got too high with her; wynne would never teach your spirit healer no matter your rep with her or doing her character quest).

[WilliamShatner]

Tamyn wrote...

Mox Ruuga wrote...

Hopefully you aren't forced to flirt with Garrus and Thane? Because then they will die in the suicide mission for FemShep. Every time. I don't appreciate out of character behaviour forced on me...

Devs, please, no more nonsense like this in ME3. Bring back the professional N7 soldier, who just happens to be a woman.

With Garrus and Thane there is only one line in one conversation that activates their romance. With Garrus there is only one initial line that makes FemShep sound flirtatious with him ("Not what I meant"), and that is after a line that has her ask him about blowing off steam. Even if you accidently pick the "blowing off steam" option, you can avoid a romance by choosing the sparring (lower-right) option. Before that it's all friendship.
 
Thane actually has two conversations where FemShep can flirt, but only the second one activates the romance ("I want you Thane"; very obvious). With Garrus and Thane the flirt options are all upper-right options. You can be friends with Thane and have some good conversations even if you don't romance him. Garrus cuts off after his post-Sidonis convo if you don't romance him.

Thane still calls you "Shia "(?) even if you just go down the friend root.

Hopefully that word doesn't mean anything too special.

[Tamyn]

WilliamShatner wrote...

Thane still calls you "Shia "(?) even if you just go down the friend root.

Hopefully that word doesn't mean anything too special.

He calls you siha once. Then the next conversation he calls you Shepard.

It's more of a flattering name than an exclusively romantic one. He's sort of calling Shepard a guardian angel.

Modifié par Tamyn, 13 février 2010 - 10:15 .

[Sharn01]

DirewolfX wrote...

MutantSpleen wrote...

This is one of the poor aspects of Mass Effect 2. It takes almost no digging to get their loyalty missions, it just seems to be a timed thing and once you have done them I saw little point in further coversation with most of the squad members.

In comparison Dragon Age, had layers and layers of personal information to peel away. It was actually difficult to open up some of the character's personal quests. They just seemed a lot more indepth to me. Plus the banter between the different companions in Dragon Age was so well done and that aspect was virtually non-existent in ME2

Having just come off playing dragon Age right into Mass Effect 2 made me a bit disappointed at the lack of depth in ME2 characters.

It was difficult getting people to open up in DA because you needed to spend a fortune buying them useless trinkets to get their favor up.  It had a little more dialog for some of the characters (i.e. Leliana) but others just wanted to get in the sack with me immediately (Morrigan).  And then some of the dialog trees were buggy (some people couldn't get morrigan to sleep with them if their reputation got too high with her; wynne would never teach your spirit healer no matter your rep with her or doing her character quest).

The Morrigon thing is not a bug,  she will sleep with you very early on, but as soon as she starts to have real feelings for you she will not have sex and if you are already in a relationship she tries to dump you.

Leliana is the opposite, she wont sleep with you until you reach the fully in love stage.

Wynn isnt suppose to teach Spirit Healer to my knowledge, there was a book for it if I remember correctly.

Modifié par Sharn01, 13 février 2010 - 10:31 .