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Tali / Quarians 3 fingers - why?


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Because they have three nostrils.

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Ziggeh

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I support Tali's missing fingers as an LI squadmate in ME3.

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ziggehunderslash wrote...

I support Tali's missing fingers as an LI squadmate in ME3.


BOTH of them? You cad, you.

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For human using just 3 fingers seem odd because we are used to 5. Also they are thinner so when you try to use just 3 it doesnt feel sturdy. Quarians are used to use just 3, and their tools are also built for that. Also their fingers are thicker so they have more support strength per finger than humans thin fingers alone.



Buuuut humans do have an advantage when it comes to getting out fingers on tight spaces, or using keyboard if you use all your fingers.

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So you're saying more = better? I would say less fingers to get in the way would be better.

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stillnotking wrote...

Because they have three nostrils.



Makes sense, cuz humans have 5... wait what?

Modifié par MaaZeus, 12 février 2010 - 03:54 .


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MaaZeus wrote...

stillnotking wrote...

Because they have three nostrils.



Makes sense, cuz humans have 5... wait what?


Quarians are much more efficient.

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The real question is... why not?

So I was underneath the shower today... and I was wondering why I had a pinky toe... No really... I didn't see practical use out of it.

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Many species in ME have three fingers, quarians, krogans, turians, salarians...

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Haasth wrote...

The real question is... why not?
So I was underneath the shower today... and I was wondering why I had a pinky toe... No really... I didn't see practical use out of it.


It exists only so you can stub it. You know it's true.

Edit: wait. So that's why so many species only have three fingers/toes. Less things to stub/twist/break!

Modifié par Syokhan, 12 février 2010 - 04:13 .


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Wild stab in the dark, but I suspect scientific accuracy and the application of evolutionary theory were pretty low on their character design requirements. 3 fingers is more "alieny" than 5, or indeed 4, and as humanoid bipeds who all speak english (yes, yes, I know, translation matrix) the more elements that say "not actually human" you get in a design the better in terms of making them distinct.

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Haasth wrote...

The real question is... why not?
So I was underneath the shower today... and I was wondering why I had a pinky toe... No really... I didn't see practical use out of it.

Funny thing is, have shower in 500000 years and you likely won't have the same problem.

Toes are so ******-antecessor

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Sure, it doesn't make sense if you look at it from the point of view that they are supposed to be "master tinkerers", therefore they should have more digits on their hands... but that's not how it would have worked with an organic species evolving. If they had three digits on their hands form a very early point in their evolution, long before they ever developed technology, there would be little they could do about it, and they would develop tools to make up for any shortcoming they suffered.



Personally, I don't think humans would be too worse off with only three digits per hand. Our keyboards would probably have fatter keys or something, but that's about it.

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Haasth wrote...

The real question is... why not?
So I was underneath the shower today... and I was wondering why I had a pinky toe... No really... I didn't see practical use out of it.



Cut it away, and you'll suddenly have a problem keeping balance when walking. You'll get used to it, but its not useless toe.

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Foop DK wrote...

It just doesn't make much sense to me for Quarians, masters of tinkering/repairing/creating stuff with their hands, to only have 3 fingers. Wouldn't 4 (not 5, we dont really need the last one, its a leftover) be more fitting for such a race?

I get they want different species, but how many has 4 fingers? Krogans have 3, Turians aswell, give Quarians 4 for the sake of diversity/sense! :D

Okay might be hard to change now, but it always bothered me, since 4 fingers makes more sense for such a tinkering race, IMO.



I agreed wholeheartedly. I've always thought it was rather stupid for BioWare to give them only three fingers.

As you said, Quarians are a race of people who are masters of tinkering, repairing, and creating. For BioWare to give them only 3 fingers is simply asinine.

To summarize the second part of your post, Humans and Asari are the only prominent races in Mass Effect that *don't* have three fingers. IIRC, there's those two with five fingers, and everyone else with only three. You would think that there would be one or two races with four fingers.

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Its purely to make them look alien.

EDIT: hold on!? this thread is ****ing 8 months old!

Modifié par GodWood, 11 octobre 2010 - 06:06 .


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Jake71887 wrote...

4 doesn't make any more or less sense to me than 3... o.O


Then you simply haven't given it that much though.

For the sake of gameplay, Krogan, Turians, Salarians, Quarians, and Geth have no problem wielding firearms, but in actuality, it would actually be quite frustrating.

No, Quarians don't necessarily need guns in the course of tinkering and repairing things, but I can imagine they have tools that are held in a similar fashion, like the Mass Effect counterpart of a soldering gun.

Whether you choose to acknowledge it or not, in actuality, a sapient race with only three fingers is severely limited in how well they can manipulate tools and other handheld devices.

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 I think the fact that their species only has 3 fingers would actually make them more dependent on tools, which makes sense for a race of engineers.

Modifié par anmiro, 11 octobre 2010 - 06:35 .


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It makes perfect sense to me why quarians have three fingers.  One day, the character design artist was like "how many fingers should this suited race that gets sick easily have?  I know, how about three, because nothing's more alien than three!"  Alright, that may have been a little rude.  Point is, that's what the designers wanted.  Maybe they've given a reason as to why.

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GodWood wrote...

Its purely to make them look alien.

EDIT: hold on!? this thread is ****ing 8 months old!



Indeed. I didn't notice that until you said something...lol

Even so, it was either post a reply in this thread, or create a new one and get harassed about creating a new thread on a topic that's already been discussed.

At any rate, they could have easily accomplished the "alien look" with four fingers.

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ziggehunderslash wrote...

Wild stab in the dark, but I suspect scientific accuracy and the application of evolutionary theory were pretty low on their character design requirements.


^ This


And really, given their technical capabilities as shown through the creation of the Geth, shouldn't the Quarians be cybernetically enhanced to Ghost in the Shell levels? Why would you need more than 3 fingers in most situations when you can have them fold out into 15 fingers for situations where ninja typing is required? But then again, such technical sophistication would call into question why the Quarians haven't simply sidesteped the need for immune systems through bioengineering, which brings us back to "ziggehunderslash's" quote above.

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Odd Hermit wrote...
keyboard


Obviously human tech has been designed with 5*2 fingers in mind, not 3*2 so thats hardly suprising. 

Modifié par Count Viceroy, 11 octobre 2010 - 06:25 .


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Well, you can't develop anything until you know there's a need for that. Maybe Quarians became super hightech startrek engineers because in their Computer age, their Interface with the Computer was a lot slower then the Keyboard i'm just typing on. With three Fingers on each hand and i think i can get up to 200 Characters per minute with this.



The Quarian Keyboard Theory makes some Sense; they did develop a written Language and it makes sense that they would have written stuff with a crude interface device into their first Computers.

In our Information age we can hammer like 350 or more characters into the computer but since that is not fast enough, People are driving the Voice recognition Technology forward. Imagine how far this would be if we had only three Fingers typing even slower.

Also, relative to the Rest of the Body the Quarian Finger is huge. No tiny Keys on portable Devices.



So the three fingered Quarian Hand was forced to develop some Technology to interface with Computers and thus they became computer Experts.

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Madman123456 wrote...

So the three fingered Quarian Hand was forced to develop some Technology to interface with Computers and thus they became computer Experts.


It also has a lot to do with their social enviroment. The quarian race is dependant on tech to survive since they are stranded in space, if the tech fails they die. It makes sense that everyone would be taught tech in order to repair and maintain what they already have. Besides, becoming a tech expert is in every quarians self interest seeing as they have to manage their suit.

Modifié par Count Viceroy, 11 octobre 2010 - 09:37 .


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In terms of manual dexterity, a 4th digit (3rd finger to go with the thumb) would make a lot more sense. There are a lot of things where that "ring" finger makes a difference.



Watch Tali hold a pistol one-handed, for example, with one finger and her thumb, with the other finger hovering over the trigger.