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[Ryzaki]

synergys2k wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

^does that not describe almost every game in existence?

Apparently it does not describe Mass Effect 2.

>_< Bah.

90% of games out there are RPGs in some way shape or form. They just choose not to label themselves as such.

[Darth Obvious]

Archereon wrote...

This is not an RPG

This is not a thread.

See, other people can make stuff up too.

[XfStef]

spaghetti your aggressiveness is pretty strong, I'm smelling personal interest in this whole deal



also... writing on a forum that someone is a "pathetic little insect" possibly results from numerous frustrating efforts of making a point and failling in your past... aggression, be it verbal, is the last resort of beeing unable to resolve a situation...

[MPaBkaTa123]

Urm.. Stef both sides of these debates act like idiots all the time no need for personal insults ;)/

[NvVanity]

I love this thread. It fills me with joy to see someone completely miss everything.


Bravo OP, bravo!

[MojojojoeJDH]

Accidently closed my web browser so I will make my points but make them much shorter.

GoW is not the competition as the games are VASTLY different, and why choose GoW? There are a number of cover based shooters. I personally wish they added the SWAT maneuver so you could go from one bit of cover to another nearby bit of cover without having to break out of cover, move over, and go back into cover.

Fallout 3 is the worst shooter RPG you could have mentioned as the shooting mechanis sucked and the skill system was, IMO, inferior to Oblivion and even Morrowind. And shooter RPGs are very possible. Something "PURISTS" don't get is that no matter what they think there is no "TRUE" RPG. There is the "ORIGINAL" RPG but Action RPGs, Turn-based RPGs, Shooter RPGs, J-RPGs, and MMORPGs are ALL RPGs, with variation in genre, story progression, gameplay type, with varying decrees of linearity. All have their own pros and cons and their own fanbases. But the thing about all Hybrid RPGs is that due to the hybrid nature of the gameplay the developers can choose whatever kind of experience they want.

And saying removing stat based hacking is taking away an RPG element is a load of crap. RPGs are not stand alone. There really is no such thing as an RPG without a prefix. And by prefix I mean; Action, Turn-based, Shooter, J, and MMO. The prefix defines what the RPG "aspects" are. If anything RPG simply means Role-Playing-Game, you create a character that fills a certain role and you play that role throughout the game. The prefix deines where it's turn-based or real-time, guns, swords or both, skill or stat based combat, sleek sexy characters, Conan looking male figures or effeminate men with ridiculously spiky hair. The type of "RPG" gamplay that you will get has more to do with the prefix then it does with the whole RPG part.

Also the whole choice thing is a big step for RPGs as a whole as it adds a level of depth that it far less nerdy. In RPG games that don't have choice and are very to a little linear you can call your self chaotic evil all you want but if there aren't any choices to be made the character you play is only chaotic evil in your head as without choices and consequences there is no feedback from the game world to suggest that your character is indeed chaotic evil.

Modifié par MojojojoeJDH, 12 février 2010 - 07:23 .

[Ricardoy]

Darth Obvious wrote...

Archereon wrote...

This is not an RPG

This is not a thread.

See, other people can make stuff up too.

LOL..but yea this is not a thread.

People complaing so much about the game..dont buy it if you dont like it Q_Q

[tiusingh]

yeah

[Johnson45]

itz nota RPG itz FPS!!!



/joke

[The Siff Lord]

Ricardoy wrote...

Darth Obvious wrote...

Archereon wrote...

This is not an RPG

This is not a thread.

See, other people can make stuff up too.

LOL..but yea this is not a thread.

People complaing so much about the game..dont buy it if you dont like it Q_Q

The only problem with this approach is, I pre-ordered it based on playing the original Mass Effect. You think Bioware will give me my money back if I just tell them that since they changed the game, I changed my mind??

[XfStef]

MPaBkaTa123 wrote...

Urm.. Stef both sides of these debates act like idiots all the time no need for personal insults ;)/

sry, I'm the Mordin type

[Ricardoy]

The Siff Lord wrote...

Ricardoy wrote...

Darth Obvious wrote...

Archereon wrote...

This is not an RPG

This is not a thread.

See, other people can make stuff up too.

LOL..but yea this is not a thread.

People complaing so much about the game..dont buy it if you dont like it Q_Q

The only problem with this approach is, I pre-ordered it based on playing the original Mass Effect. You think Bioware will give me my money back if I just tell them that since they changed the game, I changed my mind??

No..but usually games changes stuff ..so is just try it or not...or you just could wait and see if a friend get it lol..

[MojojojoeJDH]

MPaBkaTa123 wrote...

Urm.. Stef both sides of these debates act like idiots all the time no need for personal insults ;)/

I thought my point was pretty non-aggressive not to mention well thought out.

[NvVanity]

MojojojoeJDH wrote...

MPaBkaTa123 wrote...

Urm.. Stef both sides of these debates act like idiots all the time no need for personal insults ;)/

I thought my point was pretty non-aggressive not to mention well thought out.

That's the thing, you can't argue with logic because then it turns into a flame war.


You argue with  ridiculous images, memes and funny things then it turns into a hilarious comedy.

[Frotality]

you know, i seem to recall everyone was all for constructive criticism back on the old boards....what could have possibly changed to cause such pointless unproductive "whiner" replies all over the place? wait...i seem to recall a certain fanbase infamous for that...havent seen it since the bungie forums...could it be?!

please let bungie, epic, and infinity ward have their fans bioware, we really dont need this BS for the rest of our days. for every sensible one like OP we get 100 trolls and "quit QQing".

[TuringPoint]

Archereon wrote...

Its not that I expected a company famed for its RPGs to make even a half decent shooter, and I know EA buys off critics to get 9/10 ratings on most of their big titles, but the fact that this company even tried to make one is infuriating.

Well, I think you've been paid to make this post

[ChuckNorris18]

 YOU'RE NOT AN RPG!

[MojojojoeJDH]

Crawling_Chaos wrote...

MojojojoeJDH wrote...

I thought my point was pretty non-aggressive not to mention well thought out.

We dont take kindly to yer types 'round these parts.

You don't take kindly to non-aggressive people who think before they post? In that case would you kindly shut it.

[Haadurin]

You people should stop flaming this guy. I may not agree (at ALL) with the original poster, but the least you can do is decide not to flame him. Forums are for expressing opinions and ideas, and the guy is doing just that.

Granted, I will say, I completely disagree with this guys, and am having BUCKETLOADS of fun playing and re-playing Mass Effect 2. It's definitely up there in my top games of all time.

Modifié par Haadurin, 12 février 2010 - 08:30 .

[TuringPoint]

yeah, people are being jerks.

[Forest03]

Space Hamster: Do not try and label the game. That's impossible. Instead, only try to realize the truth.
Shepard: What truth?
Space Hamster: There is no game.
Shepard: There is no game?
Space Hamster: Then you'll see, that it is not the game that gets labelled, it is only yourself.
Shepard: WTF, Boo?! Stop messing with my head!
Space Hamster: Ah, to hell with it! ... Assuming control!

Modifié par Forest03, 12 février 2010 - 08:40 .

[yoomazir]

They call trolls the people who critic the flaws of this game yet they can't (obviously) see how much trolling they're doing.

[nicodeemus327]

There's a big difference between constructive criticism and trolling. Most people fail the first so we just assume they are trolling.