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[DarthCaine]

People say that the final decision or the geth decision is the hardest one (though I can't understand why, it's pretty obvious which is the "right" choice if you try both choices and talk to your squad afterwards), but my hardest choice was what to do with the Genophage Cure

I see both sides of the argument, but I choose to keep the cure even though I might never use it (why let all that research go to waste), but I'm afraid BioWare will only see black and white: keep the cure=cure the genophage, destroy the cure=don't cure it (even though there were 4 choices)

So, what did you choose and why?

[MrVincent]

I chose to keep the cure...it's not like the Maelon finished his work and it sure isn't Mordin's point of focus if you talk to him about it. Why not keep it around if it could possibly help in the long run?

[TobiasRieper]

Keeping it, but only for Wrex's sake.



Maybe if he gets his people and **** under control a bit, I can give it to him and have him use it on a small scale (only his clan and selected Krogan).

[Astranagant]

I kept the data just because it's better to have it and not do anything with it than to destroy it and regret it later.



That said, if the genophage was cured the Krogan would have to be closely and militantly managed or put down for the good of the galaxy.

[Invalidcode]

It's not a completed cure, Mordin's educated guess is it there are still at least a few years for it to work, if it work at all.



I kept it, but my Shepard won't let anyone touch it (yet). Krogan cannot keep their own numbers in check, and that leads to a lot of problem, including war. For example, if you explore around, there is a planet that was sort of granted to the Krogan before, they didn't keep their numbers in check and over-populate so fast that destroyed the planet and left a lot of trash behind.



Let the Krogan have the cure (or the cue to cure) is like pushing the whole galaxy into fire. If Wrex get the Krogan to united and have the Krogan know the importance of population control then maybe they can get their genophage cure, assume Krogan and other races leave the grudges between them behind.



Genophage is pretty unethical but necessary, to quote Mordin:



"Genophage or Genocide."

[thethain]

I kept it, when the krogan race has learned to better control itself it shouldn't face artificial limitations.

[Giantevilhead]

The Genophage has altered the evolution of the Krogan species too much. Since the Genophage has caused female Krogans to be fought over, it has essentially allowed the strongest and most aggressive Krogans to bear the most offspring. If the Genophage is cured then those same Krogans will breed extremely fast, creating the same problem that the Genophage was supposed to solve but many times worse.

[SidNitzerglobin]

My main Shepard made his thoughts on the genophage perfectly clear to Mordin and he kept the data.

Mordin's arguments for the genophage seemed to be relying pretty heavily on simulations and models that assumed that the krogan are completely incapable of sociopolitical evolution. It seems to me that much of the issue of the krogan threat was somewhat manufactured by the turians and salarians meddling in the natural progression of the species in the first place.

The genophage might have been the "right" thing to do at the time, but dependent on how successful Wrex is at unifying them as a sovereign species and the direction they go if it happens, holding back data on or destroying the cure in perpetuity probably isn't.

I can agree that releasing the data might not turn out to be a feasible or advisable course of action within the scope of this trilogy, or even within the natural lifespan of most of the characters involved in it, but saving it at least leaves the option open.

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Modifié par SidNitzerglobin, 12 février 2010 - 06:45 .

[TobiasRieper]

SidNitzerglobin wrote...

...It seems to me that much of the issue of the krogan threat was somewhat manufactured by the turians and salarians meddling in the natural progression of the species in the first place...

Mordin actually literally says this and mourns the lives of all lost, just because the uplifting of the Krogan came too fast and for selfish reasons.

[SidNitzerglobin]

TobiasRieper wrote...

SidNitzerglobin wrote...

...It seems to me that much of the issue of the krogan threat was somewhat manufactured by the turians and salarians meddling in the natural progression of the species in the first place...

Mordin actually literally says this and mourns the lives of all lost, just because the uplifting of the Krogan came too fast and for selfish reasons.

Yup, this is touched upon in ME1 in several instances as well. 

I agree that Mordin's loyalty quest was one of the shining moments of philisophical navel gazing in ME2 (along w/ Legion's).  Both were very well written and conceived, IMO.

[Fulgrim88]

I actually thought that was quite a no-brainer. Why destroy something that might prove useful. We don't have to use it after all and opposed to the Collector Base, we don't have to give it to someone we don't trust.



Of course this is only the case if Bioware doesn't force the decision upon us wether to use it or not. Same goes for the Collectors Base and who to give access. There are quite some dialogue options in both cases that lead to more than 2 possible outcomes, but forcing it seems like the easy thing to do.

[Looper128]

I chose to keep it and to use it if possible. The krogan have been through enough and with the Wrex new way I have a hard time seeing the krogan ppl turning against the rest of the galaxy again especially with the repers coming.

[ruleonecardio]

It's not the actual cure, just Maelon's research into it. Though it is very advanced since he used live subjects.

[Creston918]

I think Wrex is smart enough that he wouldn't let his people go down the same path if the Genophage was cured. After all, a new Genophage can easily be recreated.



That said, if you killed Wrex on Virmire (seriously, did ANYONE ever do that? The whole fresh ME2 start is ruined for me because Wrex is dead), and Worf is in charge, then the Krogan will never learn, and they need to be kept Genophage'd.

[Giantevilhead]

Creston918 wrote...

I think Wrex is smart enough that he wouldn't let his people go down the same path if the Genophage was cured. After all, a new Genophage can easily be recreated.

Without the Genophage, many of the Krogans would have no reason to follow Wrex.

Also, if they make a new Genophage, it would be much easier to cure since they can base their research on the cure for the old Genophage.

[AGogley]

Um...you didn't save the cure. You saved research of Mordin's protege related to his trying to find a cure. Whether it actually leads to a cure, is merely hypothetical at this point.

[GnusmasTHX]

I told Mordin he needed to help the krogan, and got paragon points.

[Lonely_Fat_Guy]

yup hardest choice ever, killing the geth base was easy. not 100% sure they wont think difrent and follow the reapers agan so destroy it.



as for this, wrex is an great leader, like morodin said, if they can overcome there babarian stage, they can have it back.

my shepard wanted to give it back and help the krogans we will probebly need them again against the reapers

[VideoCOMMANDER]

Ok here's what I think Bioware is going to do if you saved the cure for the Genophage. I believe that its going to be like the Rachni's help. In ME3 I think there going to give you the choice to cure the Genophage if you saved it. From there I think that the  Krogan will have your thanks and help fight the reapers with by having a population spurt and have a Krogan horde backing you in the "Final" battle. But this is all theory.

[C9316]

In my opinion its not really a hard choice while I agree that the genophage was needed during the rebellions I think the krogan(well some at least) have learned their lesson and besides I think I'll need their help against the reapers its just like the rachni choice simple personal preference but in the end I'm a sucker for second chances

[PillarBiter]

I vote to cure them, mainly because I think wrex can unite them and be more civil. However, if they assassinate wrex, i plan on personally go around ripping all 4 testes of every krogan in the galaxy.

[STG]

I kept it because krogan people are in good hands (Wrex saved) and because I trust that Mordin will do the right thing with it.



Unlike the collector base and TIM.

[InHarmsWay]

TobiasRieper wrote...

Keeping it, but only for Wrex's sake.

Maybe if he gets his people and **** under control a bit, I can give it to him and have him use it on a small scale (only his clan and selected Krogan).

I agree. I think the genophage cure will be okay as long as Wrex is the leader. Whereas Wreav will completely screw you over.

[Vaenier]

Wow, someone was smart enough to actually keep something controversial just in case, instead of destroying it out of fear of the unknown... There is hope yet.

[vvDRUCILLAvv]

 I kept the cure. CURE THE KROGAN!!!!!