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[BECC4]

Jack Anvil wrote...
But Shepard is an American. Default Shepard is a white man who saves the galaxy. Why can't an asian man save the galaxy?

But you can also play a black man, play with the character creator, I'm pretty sure it's possible to make an asian guy, or woman for that matter, so if it bothers you so much do it. 

As for the default Shepard they picked a character that the majority of people would find attractive and I don't just mean in a romantic way.  That's how they sell games, look at the average movie star, your issues lie with society and no the game is not racist.

[Cutlass Jack]

You're assuming our current national boundries even exist in the ME universe. I think once we joined the galactic community uniting just seems natural. Hence, the 'alliance.'



And your first name can be any nationality you wish. As your appearance. So not really seeing your point OP.

[Chris42042]

Read and watch bioware dev diaries and interviews. Mass Effect 2 isnt you creating a character of your own like other games such as DA:O. Mass Effect is you taking on the role of a character THEY created. You are Commander Shepard. Saying that is racist is just as stupid as complaining about same sex relationships. We're playing the character Bioware created.

[Avissel]

I find your feelings that a western name is racist to be racist against Americans. You dont think Americans can be space marine heros?



(my argument makes as much sense as yours)

[Cloaking_Thane]

Explain how this is racist and not "nationalist"?



I will enjoy your response, although like many above have stated, youre a complete idiot.



Dialogue is the main reason, but there are many other factors that make your attempt to stir the pot fail hard and miserably

[-Area51-Silent]

Then maybe an Asian company should have made Mass Effect hu? This is the dumbest argument that the game is racist. Games produced in Asia, such as Final Fantasy, have Asian protagonists and deal closer with the culture of those who created the game.



This is a fictional western RPG, these are rare enough as it is. There are plenty of Fictional eastern RPG's if you look around. You can appear Asian, that should be good enough.

[IMTrick]

Chris42042 wrote...

Read and watch bioware dev diaries and interviews. Mass Effect 2 isnt you creating a character of your own like other games such as DA:O. Mass Effect is you taking on the role of a character THEY created. You are Commander Shepard. Saying that is racist is just as stupid as complaining about same sex relationships. We're playing the character Bioware created.

Heh...  That response makes as little sense as the original complaint, considering that there *are* options to make a Shepard from just about any race imaginable.

[Eshaye]

Guys please just go on Jack Anvil's profile and lo and behold all the silly threads he's been starting..... And get ready to /facepalm.

[Sledgehammer44mm]

Jack Anvil wrote...

I've been thinking about it, and by the 22nd century, the human race isn't going to be a mix of all ethnicities. So, following that logic, we aren't going to have many ethnicities with an American name. So what if I want to play someone from the Ukraine, Mexico, or China? 
Should we be forced to play a character that is clearly American? What if I want to play Commander Jovovich, Commander Sanchez, or Commander Chang?

Thoughts?

Your the ****ing racist!



Are you an American?

Alan Shepard is a hero not a damn racist.



What next that Jon Grissom, Kahlee Sanders's father is a racist?

Because like the game the books  decided to dedicate their Heroes after real life Heroes!

I can respect that.

Gus Grissom gave his life and for them to acknowledge him in a book is quite an honor.

These men deserve recognition for their actions they brought a lot to the world we know.



Instead you feel the need to throw around hairbrain crap.



Only a racist would find what you did to be racist.

Good thing a lot of people aren't as narrow minded as you.

I pity the fool who is!

Modifié par Sledgehammer44mm, 12 février 2010 - 06:39 .

[JustValiant]

Maybe his grandfather ist british, his grandmother french or german, in a way by customizing his face and his first name you can choose his orgins. I wouldn't rely too much just on the last name.

[Doug84]

And that was 2 minutes of my life I'm not going to get back. Great.

[Roninraver]

Jack Anvil wrote...

I've been thinking about it, and by the 22nd century, the human race isn't going to be a mix of all ethnicities. So, following that logic, we aren't going to have many ethnicities with an American name. So what if I want to play someone from the Ukraine, Mexico, or China? 
Should we be forced to play a character that is clearly American? What if I want to play Commander Jovovich, Commander Sanchez, or Commander Chang?

Thoughts?

I find it amazing that by purely thinking upon the subject, you have managed to come to a conclusion about world population diversity a century down the line.  Truly an impressive feat I must say.  However, you reached an incorrect conclusion, twice.

First, the human race is already a mix of all ethnicities.  Try and find one person from anywhere on this ball of rock that claims to be of pure lineage, and you will have found someone that isn't looking back far enough/hard enough.  The only people that could POSSIBLY be of "pure" lineage would be those hailing from somewhere in the deepest, darkest parts of Africa, where we stopped dragging our hairy knuckles.  Good luck finding such places, populated by people who have never come into contact with the outside world, or interbred with it.  The further into the future we go, the less diverse we become, and Mass Effect's portrayal of this happening is spot-on.

Second, Shepard isn't an American name.  It's a European name.  And it actually used to be more akin to a job title, rather than a name.   As with many European decended surnames, it was applied to a person of a craft.  Blacksmiths would be called "Smith" or "Smithy."  Sheep hearders would be called "Sheepheard" or "Shepard" as the name evolved.  The name Shepard was, in Old English - "Sceaphierde".  'Sceap' being sheep, 'hierde' being herder.
And those words have an etymology spanning back further than English as a language.  So, to be entirely accurate, "Shepard" would be described as a western European name of Germanic descent, at best.  Certainly not "American" though.  Or do you believe the name "Shepard" is less than 250 years old?

Dunno why I bothered, this is one of the most blatant troll posts I've seen in awhile, but hey I got to pretend to educate for a bit so it's all good. 

Modifié par Roninraver, 12 février 2010 - 06:46 .

[Arcadionn]

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[Llandaryn]

Jack Anvil wrote...

Should we be forced to play a character that is clearly American? What if I want to play Commander Jovovich, Commander Sanchez, or Commander Chang?

Thoughts?

Use your imagination.

[ZaDonKilluminati]

Wow, some people obviously have too much time. To see something even remotely racist in this game, you must be having some serious mental issues.

[-Area51-Silent]

^

And knowing is half the battle! G.I J...oh that would be racist by claims of this thread.

[sbear3737]

MrVincent wrote...

Jack Anvil wrote...

BECC4 wrote...

Jack Anvil wrote...

I've been thinking about it, and by the 22nd century, the human race isn't going to be a mix of all ethnicities. So, following that logic, we aren't going to have many ethnicities with an American name. So what if I want to play someone from the Ukraine, Mexico, or China? 
Should we be forced to play a character that is clearly American? What if I want to play Commander Jovovich, Commander Sanchez, or Commander Chang?

Thoughts?

I don't follow your logic, first of all I wouldn't say Shepard is exclusively American there are plenty of other non-American societies where that name wouldn't be unusual, many of them may speak English, but that doesn't make them American. 

By saying that someone from Ukraine, Mexico or China can't have that name meams that you are applying a racist slant to it and anyway, who says the human race isn't going to be a mix of ethnicities? 

As for the character, it's no different than playing Lara Croft, are the Devs racisist for making her English?  This is Shepard's story you can choose some aspects of their character and even their gender but they are still a set character.

Don't be so ridiculous.

But Shepard is an American. Default Shepard is a white man who saves the galaxy. Why can't an asian man save the galaxy?

Because an Asian man couldn't drive the Mako.

lmao, I'm Asian and I approve of this message.

@ angrytiger, it's shepArd not sheperd

And no... this is NOT racist, default is a white man because guess what, this game was made in the US, and you  knwo what?

• the majority of the fanbase are probably white males and probably north american.
• If you want to play an asian, go make one.
• It wouldn't make sense for a Canadian based (I'm canadian btw) company, BW, to put an Asian at the head of one of their flagship games.
• John Shepard is a pretty non-descript name, sure it's very North American and white, but you're not going to be able to avoid racial profiling with any kind of name, so why not just keep it as neutral as possible? If you put an asian man on board, what should his  last name be? Whatever you put, it's going to create racial issues among the fans and then other people like YOU, will **** and complain. Hugh J. Wang anyone?

[Ileanos07]

Jack Anvil wrote...

I've been thinking about it, and by the 22nd century, the human race isn't going to be a mix of all ethnicities. So, following that logic, we aren't going to have many ethnicities with an American name. So what if I want to play someone from the Ukraine, Mexico, or China? 
Should we be forced to play a character that is clearly American? What if I want to play Commander Jovovich, Commander Sanchez, or Commander Chang?

Thoughts?

I have three ideas ...
1) You are right, at 22nd century, humanity will be most likely mix of all ethnicities. So ... Father is American/British and mother could be of any nationality.
2) Isnt every word in the game put through universal translator? Why not pretend, that this translator translate names into english (language commonly know)... Then you can call yourself Sheppard in any language ... (well... Ok, it is funny )
3) If you are earth-born, then you possibly choose your name based on where do you live...

[-Area51-Silent]

Jack, why not go over to a Final Fantasy thread and argue that the entire Final Fantasy series is racist against Western cultures? I am sure those people would completely agree that any RPG not representative of an Eastern Culture is surely racist.

[sbear3737]

Also, they need character dialogue to actually say the Commander's last name, can't change that! That's why it's fixed.... and the reason why I believe it's not any other last name is for the reason above ^ that I mentioned

[Trishann]

Ah, political correctness. Yes, because being PC makes for a GREAT GAME.