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[belwin]

epic thread.

i need to refer to this later when i want to re-beat mass effect 2 in certain ways for sure,

[Grasser]

ok, I just completed the SM, with everyone unloyal and nothing upgraded,

and 2 squadmates and shepard survived, much to my surprise.

so here's what happened and who died where.

During the Ship Battle in this order.

Jack, Kasumi and Thane Died.



then on the Collector base,

The tech in pipes.

Tali Died



then I sent Zaeed to protect the Normandy crew, he died but they survived.



Then on the Biotic section.

Legion and Garrus Died.



Then I took Miranda and Jacob and they died on the final battle.

Now here's what stumped me,

Mordin, Grunt and Samara where Holding the Line and only Mordin dies?

should'nt they all die since noone was loyal?

oh and bloody Grunt saved my Shep.. grrr

I really wanted to see the femshep version of her death.

so what do I need to change here?

Thanks

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Grasser wrote...

ok, I just completed the SM, with everyone unloyal and nothing upgraded,
and 2 squadmates and shepard survived, much to my surprise.
so here's what happened and who died where.
During the Ship Battle in this order.
Jack, Kasumi and Thane Died.

then on the Collector base,
The tech in pipes.
Tali Died

then I sent Zaeed to protect the Normandy crew, he died but they survived.

Then on the Biotic section.
Legion and Garrus Died.

Then I took Miranda and Jacob and they died on the final battle.
Now here's what stumped me,
Mordin, Grunt and Samara where Holding the Line and only Mordin dies?
should'nt they all die since noone was loyal?
oh and bloody Grunt saved my Shep.. grrr
I really wanted to see the femshep version of her death.
so what do I need to change here?
Thanks

Replace Tali with Jacob as tech specialist.

Then when going to the human reaper, take Miranda and grunt with you. LEaving Tali, Mordin and Samara to hold the line. That should result in Shepard dying.

[Pacifien]

Grunt holding the line is what's screwing you up, so do as Lizardviking says. Or, if you'd like the full loyalty mission experience and still have Shepard die, you can try this.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Pacifien wrote...

Grunt holding the line is what's screwing you up, so do as Lizardviking says. Or, if you'd like the full loyalty mission experience and still have Shepard die, you can try this.

Excatly, do as I say!

Now hand over all of your money to me as an appreciation for my help!

[Grasser]

kool thanks guys,

yea I kinda Figured Grunt was screwing it up, lol.

although his Comment on him holding the Line is funny, hes loving the battle and climbing over dead bodies or something, lol.

I was actually thinking of killing zaeed on his loyatly mission and giving legion to cerberus, 2 less on the squad might help too.

tho it's hard to give such a unreal char away (legion), zaeed is kool too, but hes not my favorite, .

anywayz thanks again!

Makes me wonder if we'll see a simular thing in ME3, like doing the wrong things causes different species homeworlds to be destroyed, or entire fleets or something like that, u know Larger scale.

[Grasser]

ugh weird, it double posted what I wrote...

Modifié par Grasser, 29 septembre 2010 - 06:25 .

[Gennojo Ryuga]

Just for kicks is it possible to do an only biotics survive scenario? or an only males survive scenario, want to find different ways to end the game for my fun characters

[Pacifien]

Gennojo Ryuga wrote...
Just for kicks is it possible to do an only biotics survive scenario? or an only males survive scenario, want to find different ways to end the game for my fun characters

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Final Squadmates: All Biotic Crew
-----------------

Loyals: Everyone but Legion
Nonloyals: Legion
Normandy Upgrades: Armor, Weapons
Chakwas and Crew: Alive*

Before the Omega-4 Mass Relay
- Side with Tali during the confrontation with Legion
- Resolve the Miranda and Jack fight favorably for both

Approach to Base
- No shield upgrade - Kasumi dies

Assignments
- Send Garrus into the vents - Garrus dies
- Use Legion as escort - Crew lives, Legion dies
- Use a subpar biotic, bring Grunt with anyone but Jack or Thane - Grunt dies
- Use Zaeed as the Second Fireteam Leader - Zaeed dies
- Hold the Line - Mordin, Tali, Jack and two others - HtL average 1.4 - Mordin and Tali die
- Final Boss - Your choice of Jacob, Miranda, Samara or Thane

Death Roundup
- Kasumi died by engine room explosion
- Garrus died by rocket to face
- Grunt carried away by seeker swarm
- Zaeed after closing the second door
- Mordin. Held. The. Line.
- Tali died holding the line

* If you want to the crew to die, this will require recruiting Zaeed after the suicide mission so you can kill him during his loyalty mission. This is because you won't be sending an escort, so instead, you have to kill Legion by sending him as the second leader.

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Final Squadmates: Jack, Jacob, Miranda, Samara, Thane
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More scenarios are linked in this post.

Modifié par Pacifien, 05 octobre 2010 - 04:28 .

[M1lfyGDLC]

Hi guys. Been reading bits and pieces from this post (many of which have been hilarious and incredibly informative). Many of the end-teams have been very ueseful, but I was just wondering what set-up would I need to have only Garrus and Thane survive, Legion either sold on or dies, and Grunt kept in his pod?? Thankyou in advance.

[CroGamer002]

I'm announcing that I'll make even worse import for ME3!

Problem is that I'm still in ME1 and I really don't feel like playing ME1 but I'll do it soon.

[Pacifien]

M1lfyGDLC wrote...
Hi guys. Been reading bits and pieces from this post (many of which have been hilarious and incredibly informative). Many of the end-teams have been very ueseful, but I was just wondering what set-up would I need to have only Garrus and Thane survive, Legion either sold on or dies, and Grunt kept in his pod?? Thankyou in advance.

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Final Squadmates: Thane and Garrus
-----------------

Loyals: Garrus, Thane, Jack, Jacob, Kasumi, Legion, Mordin
Non-loyals: Miranda, Samara, Tali, Zaeed
Tanked: Grunt
Normandy Upgrades: Thanix Cannon (Weapons)
Chakwas & Crew: ???

Before the Omega-4 Relay
* Avoid Zaeed like the plague
* Side with Jack during the confrontation with Miranda
* Side with Legion during the confrontation with Tali or turn over the evidence during Tali's trial

On Approach
No Armor - Jack dies
No Shields - Take Kasumi w/ you to fight the Oculus - Legion dies

Assignments
Vents - Jacob
Fire Team Leader - Any
Biotic - Use Thane - Take Miranda and Kasumi - Kasumi dies
Second Fire Team Leader - Mordin
Escort - Garrus
Final boss squadmates - Miranda and Samara
Distraction Team - Thane and Tali

After Suicide Mission
Get Zaeed, do his loyalty mission, take the paragon path, leave him to die.

Deaths
Jack - console blow up
Legion - engine blow up
Jacob - rocket to the face
Kasumi - carried away by seeker swarm
Mordin - tell them he held. the. line.
Miranda - died by pillar
Samara - died by pillar
Tali - died holding the line
Zaeed - left him to die

Modifications
* Sold Legion
Kasumi will die by the engine explosion instead, which means you can bring Zaeed to the mission and have him taken away by seeker swarms instead.

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Final Squadmates: Thane and Garrus
-----------------

Modifié par Pacifien, 06 octobre 2010 - 02:35 .

[M1lfyGDLC]

Pacifien, thankyou very much!! It will give me another reason to go back and let some teammates die hehe.

[vkt62]

Anyone finished the game with the least number of people left (joker and the doctor I think cannot die)?

[CroGamer002]

Check out The Worst Import for ME3.

Modifié par Mesina2, 09 octobre 2010 - 04:23 .

[CroGamer002]

Well since Pacifen thinks is better to post my 21 hours playthrough of both ME1 and ME2( on Casual difficulty!) in old thread that rarely anyone discus instead of making new thread that doesn't brake any forum rules.
Not cool Pacifen, not cool.

Anyway let me post it again.

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Anyway meet Johnson Shepard.


In ME1 I used defualt Shep face and created him in ME2 so if you are intrested I'll post Face code.
FACE CODE: 643.1L6.8ET.M7M.ENK.37N.MSI.3AR.PW9.184.C66.5

So this son of a b*tch is worst commander ever.
Sole Survior, in ME1 he lost Wrex and Kaidan on Virmire, lost 9 people on Collector base and Zaeed on Zorya.


Let's start with choices.

Mass Effect 1 choices
-Killed most killable NPCs (Fist, Shiala, Major Kyle and Captain Kirrahe)
-Feros colony and Noveria Peak 15 wiped out entirely
-Screw over Gianna Parasini's investigation by giving evidence to Salarian guy
-Rachni dead
-Wrex dead( but got berial)
-Original Council dead, Udina for Councilor
-Didn't do Tali "loyalty" mission
-Killed Dr. Saleon without Garrus' help
-Didn't talk to Emily Wong
-Sacrificed workers on Asteroid X57 to kill Balak
-Punched Khalisah bint Sinan Al-Jilani
-Killed Cerberus scientist instead of Toombs
-Ashley romance, Kiadan died on Virimire

Making the stupid, Renegade and some Paragon choices in Mass Effect 2
-Killed as many NPCs as possible (Kal'Reegar, Sidonis, Ronald Taylor, Forvan...)
-Sent Veetor to Cerberus
-Let the Batarians kill Daniel ( Mordin's assistant) so that the Blue Suns could take over the quarantine zone
-Didn't let Dr. Archer to keep David and the Overlord Project is shut down
-Didn't do Mordin loyalty ( let Maelon to complete Genophage cure)
-Didn't do Legion loyalty( Geth Heretics reprogrammed True Get)
-Destroyed Collector base and lost Cerberus support
-Kept data from N7: Lost Operative
-Gave Liara the wrong Observer target( Vorcha), but she is still Shadow Broker
-Screw over Gianna Parasini's investigation... again
-No ME2 romance, loyal to Ashley
-Refused to reinstate Spectre status
-Shot Conrad Verner in the foot, told Conrad to ****** off and he dies in very ugly way
-Traumatized Tali and caused chaos in the Migrant Fleet by using the evidence, with her father declared a traitor
   -Also suggested that they go to war
-Kept Kasumi's greybox
-Beat the sh*t out of Elias Kelham
-Kolyat killed Jorim Talid
-Intentionally gave the undercover reporter, Moirall, the wrong password
-Told Patriarch in Omega to die like a real Krogan, and he does
-Punched Khalisah bint Sinan Al-Jilani... again
-Failed Samara's loyalty


For Suicide Mission.
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Final Squadmates: Kasumi and Samara
---------------
Loyals: Jack, Jacob, Grunt, Garrus, Kasumi
Non-loyals: Miranda, Tali, Zaeed
Normandy Upgrades: None
Chakwas & Crew: DEAD

Before the Omega-4 Relay
-Side with Jack during the Miranda/Jack fight
-Hand over the evidence and traumatize Tali for her loyalty mission
-Bring Kasumi and Tali to fight the Oculus (so Legion dies)
-After the final mission, recruit Zaeed and kill him during his loyalty mission

Assignments
Vents - Jacob (dies)
Fire Team Leader - Kasumi( can be anyone)
Biotic - unloyal Samara (bring Garrus and Miranda, Garrus dies)
Second Fire Team Leader - Grunt (dies)
Final boss squadmates - Kasumi and Tali (Tali die)
Distraction Team - Samara, Mordin and Miranda (Mordin and Miranda dies)

Deaths, before landing
Jack - No Armor Upgrade, laser'd
Legion - No Shield Upgrade, incinerated
Thane - No Weapon upgrade, impaled

Deaths, after landing
Jacob - Died by rocket to face
Garrus - Died by seeker swarm
Grunt - Died while closing second door
Mordin - Died holding the line
Tali - Died at final boss
Miranda - Died holding the line
Zaeed - Died in a fire( or did he?)





I could have make it even worse:
-Cerberus scientist get's arrested, Cerberus get's bad rep
-No romance
-Not do LotSB DLC( doubt it would matter if I didn't)
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Apparently my previous thread duplicated old thread that rarely anyone discus in it and that is actually Ultimate Renegade import for ME3 with least amount of squadmates.
BS!

Modifié par Mesina2, 09 octobre 2010 - 06:03 .

[Hk47sPappy]

I need some help Pacifen, I want only Grunt and Legion to survive, but I don't want to lose Tali's or Samara's loyalty. It works until the HtL section. Here is what I have so far:
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Final Squadmates: Grunt and Legion
-----------------
Loyals: Grunt, Legion, Jacob, Mordin, Garrus, Jack, Kasumi, Thane, Tali, Samara
Non-loyals: Miranda, Zaeed
Normandy Upgrades: None
Chakwas & Crew: Chakwas alive
Before the Omega-4 Relay
* Side with Jack during the confrontation with Miranda
On Approach
No Armor - Jack dies
No Shields - Kasumi dies
No Weapons - Thane dies
Assignments
Vents - Jacob
Fire Team Leader - Any
Biotic - Use Miranda - Take Garrus and Tali - Garrus dies
Second Fire Team Leader - Samara
Escort - Zaeed
Final boss squadmates - Miranda and Grunt
Distraction Team - Mordin, Legion and Tali
After Suicide Mission
Deaths
Jack - console blow up
Kasumi - engine blow up
Thane - impaled
Jacob - rocket to the face
Garrus - carried away by seeker swarm
Samara - Shot to the stomach
Mordin - Should die holding the line
Miranda - Crushed by a pillar
Tali - Should die holding the line
Zaeed - Disloyal Escort
-----------------
Final Squadmates: Grunt and Legion
-----------------
Because of the HtL anomaly, I'm unsure if Tali and Mordin will die holding the line. Any suggestions?

[Pacifien]

Hk47sPappy wrote...
I need some help Pacifen, I want only Grunt and Legion to survive, but I don't want to lose Tali's or Samara's loyalty. It works until the HtL section. Here is what I have so far:
*snip*
Because of the HtL anomaly, I'm unsure if Tali and Mordin will die holding the line. Any suggestions?

I can't actually figure out a way to make this work without 1) recruiting then killing Zaeed after the Suicide Mission and 2) losing either Tali's or Samara's loyalty.

With Tali or Samara unloyal, you can send them as an escort where they'll die. This'll leave Legion and Mordin to HtL themselves, and with a score less than 2.0, Mordin will die.

[Liec]

What about this?



Final Squadmates: Zaeed and Morinth.

Loyals: Morinth
Unloyals: Zaeed, Tali, Mordin, Garrus, Miranda, Jacob, Thane, Jack, Kasumi.

-Be a jerk.
-No upgrades.
-Take a long time to start the Suicide Mission.
-Fail Zaeed's loyalty mission by letting Vido get away
-Sell Legion
-Do not let Grunt out of his tank so he'll die slowly within a year =D
-Show the evidence at Tali's trial, tell the quarians to go to war.
-Fail Thane's loyalty mission and let Kolyat kill Talid.
-Don't do any other loyalty missions: Maelon continues working on the genophage cure, Oriana is taken from her family, etc.
-Don't feed your fish.


Suicide Mission

-Take your pals Zaeed and Morinth to the Occulus Fight.

No armor - Jack dies
No shields - Kasumi dies
No cannon - Thane dies

-Vents: Jacob dies (well, he volunteered)
-Fire Team Leader: Zaeed (he sure has years of experience =D)
-Biotic: Miranda (well, she volunteered). Bring Tali and Morinth with you, Tali dies.
-Escort: unloyal Mordin dies. (Chakwas watches the whole crew get liquified and resents you for being late)
-Second fire team leader: unloyal Garrus dies.
-Final boss fight: Morinth and Miranda (Miranda dies)
-Holding the line: Zaeed by himself(he lives =D)

In the end all you have is an asari who wants to love you to death and a mercenary who'd love to kill you. 

[Mad Godji]

Mmhh, hopefully I didn't miss such a case in the 40 pages of topic, but I find it much more fun to betray people who are LOYAL to me. I mean, I would expect someone loyal to to die for me... litterally.



So, having recruited everyone (Zaheed and Kasumi included) and having made everyone loyal (NO BICKERING ON MY SHIP!), I'm trying to figure out a worst-case scenario.



My ship is not upgraded (hey, getting rid of my scars was much more important than saving some of those dirty aliens), and I do have kept enough missions to keep busy until all the crew is dead.



With everyone loyal, it's actually pretty hard to make many people die, but I'd like if possible to go for Miranda, Jacob, Zaheed alive if possible (I would have liked Kasumi too, but she dies in the ship).



Otherwise, going for some kind of Tali/Garrus/Legion variation sounds fun too. (I know there is such a trio somewhere in the thread, but not with everyone loyal).



Thank you for the help!

[Mad Godji]

The best I can come up with is:



Recruited : everyone (incl. Kasumi and Zaheed)

Loyal : everyone



-Crew dies because well, I'm in no hurry to go save them.



No ship upgrades:

-Jack dies because of no ship upgrade

-I take Kasumi to the Oculus so that Legion dies (Eureka! THAT is what I hadn't taken into account, silly me! I was having Kasumi die, which seriously upped my hold the line score!)

-Thane dies





Then,

-Garrus dies as not so specialist tech specialist

-having Miranda as Biotic "specialist", I manage to get Grunt to die since THane, Jack, Garrus and Legion are all dead (take that HTL average!)

-Second fire team leader Zaheed dies.

-No escort, Chakwas dies.

-Boss : all loyal, all survive



Can anyone find a way to improve on this?

[Pacifien]

Looks good to me. Since you wanted Zaeed to live, you can send Samara as second squad leader instead of him. Take him and Miranda/Jacob to the final boss, that leaves you with 1.25 HtL score and Mordin and Tali will then die. That will leave you exactly with the four you wanted.

Modifié par Pacifien, 19 octobre 2010 - 09:41 .

[Mad Godji]

Ah, of course! I was still mixing things with my first attempts where Kasumi died instead of Legion which made things a bit trickier, but indeed, I can now keep Zaheed and pick him for the boss.

Thank you!

Zaheed, Kasumi, Jacob and Miranda alive, sounds like a perfect "Cerberus" ending to import for ME3 for my renegade Shepard. >

Modifié par Mad Godji, 19 octobre 2010 - 11:36 .

[Mad Godji]

OK, I don't understand.

This worked all well, till the Hold the line part.

So, to sum up :

-Jack, Legion and Thane die before we even land.
-Garrus fails as a tech specialist.
-No one escorts the crew
-Having Miranda as a biotic specialist, Grunt dies.
-Morinth dies as second team leader

So I am now left with Kasumi, Tali, Mordin, Jacob, Miranda and Zaheed (all loyal).
I take Zaheed and Miranda with me to fight the Human Reaper larva.

So it means that holding the line are :
-Loyal Kasumi. 1 point
-Loyal Mordin. 1 point
-Loyal Tali. 1 point
-Loyal Jacob. 2 points.

So an average of 1.25

Yet... only Mordin died from the HTL team. Tali... lived O_o

Modifié par Mad Godji, 22 octobre 2010 - 11:10 .

[Pacifien]

Mad Godji wrote...
OK, I don't understand.

This worked all well, till the Hold the line part.

So, to sum up :

-Jack, Legion and Thane die before we even land.
-Garrus fails as a tech specialist.
-No one escorts the crew
-Having Miranda as a biotic specialist, Grunt dies.
-Morinth dies as second team leader

So I am now left with Kasumi, Tali, Mordin, Jacob, Miranda and Zaheed (all loyal).
I take Zaheed and Miranda with me to fight the Human Reaper larva.

So it means that holding the line are :
-Loyal Kasumi. 1 point
-Loyal Mordin. 1 point
-Loyal Tali. 1 point
-Loyal Jacob. 2 points.

So an average of 1.25

Yet... only Mordin died from the HTL team. Tali... lived O_o

.....

<_<

CURSES!

Now that you mention it, I think I remember someone mentioning a similar anomaly like this. Right now I can only get the four you want to live by either sending one of the loyal with the crew, holding off on recruiting Zaeed or Kasumi until after the mission, or making Tali unloyal.

Meanwhile, looks like I'm back to the drawing board on the hold the line scores.