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#1026
Cyberfrog81

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It is quite possible, yes. With or without Zaeed/Kasumi, but it helps if the humans (especially Jack/Kasumi) are loyal.


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Punjabi_Hitman wrote...

Pacifien wrote...
No, you'll have to be satisfied with being mean to them. Wrex, Kaidan/Ashley are the only deaths for ME1.

I meant for ME 2

Ah, I get ya'.

You humans are all racist!

#1028
Pacifien

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KenLyns wrote...

Pacifien wrote...
Could leave Grunt in the tank, though. Then just kill Jack where you killed Grunt.

If you don't do Grunt's loyalty mission, does the game consider Gatatog Uvenk to have lived? 

I think so, he'd be hanging out next to Wrex/Wreav the whole time. Suppose that would work for a worst ever playthrough, too, as Uvenk doesn't necessarily provide a stabilizing element to Clan Urdnot.

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I just read the opening post for the first time and I'm shocked, I have to admit there are things in that list I didn't even consider to be possible.

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Ecael wrote...

You can buy all 3 Normandy upgrades and still accomplish it. Choosing Jack over Miranda to lead the Fire Teams is much more fun to watch, anyway.

All 12 loyalty missions completed. Normal recruitment mission order.

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Final Squadmates: Grunt, Garrus, Mordin, Legion, Kasumi, Zaeed, Tali
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Loyals: Jack, Jacob, Samara, Grunt, Garrus, Mordin, Legion, Kasumi, Zaeed, Tali
Non-loyals: Miranda, Thane
Normandy Upgrades: Buy ALL 3 Upgrades
Chakwas & Crew: Chakwas survives

Before the Omega-4 Relay
-Mess up Thane's loyalty by losing the target (Jorim Talid)
-Side with Jack during the Miranda/Jack fight
-Delay passing through the Omega-4 relay to get Cerberus crew killed
-Resolve the Tali/Legion argument, get both loyalties

Assignments
Vents - Jacob (dies)
Fire Team Leader - Jack (just to see Miranda's reaction!)
Biotic - Thane (bring Miranda and Samara, Samara dies)
Escort - Mordin
Second Fire Team Leader - Jack (she dies this time!)
Final boss squadmates - Miranda and Thane (both die)
Distraction Team - Grunt, Garrus, Zaeed, Legion, Kasumi, Tali

Deaths, before landing
Morinth - No Renegade choice, decapitated

Deaths, after landing
Jacob - Died by rocket to face; heavy risk
Samara - Died by seeker swarm
Jack - Died while closing second door
Miranda - Died at final boss
Thane - Died at final boss

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Final Squadmates: Grunt, Garrus, Mordin, Legion, Kasumi, Tali, Zaeed
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I'll post a link to this on the original post too.


Hey, what should I change here in order to have only Miranda, Jacob and the Crew (excluding Chakwas) die? (and perhaps Zaeed as well?)
(This would be an Anti-Cerberus playthrough, I guess :D).

Would it suffice if I only screw up Miranda´s loyalty and not doing Jacob´s? Jacob could die by going through the vents, but how can I kill Miranda? By taking here to the Final Boss?

I´d be happy to get some feedback ^^

#1031
Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien

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@BlueDemonX

Pretty much yeah, it's probably the best way to do it particularly if your looking for just her, Jacob and potentially Zaeed to die. Everyone but her loyal, send Jacob in vents, Zaeed as 2nd Squad Leader during Biotic stage and take Miranda with someone else (preferably one of the lowbies) to the Final Battle. Course if your destroying the base you'll get the whole Miranda resigning from Cerberus thing but by then its too late and she'll end up dead if non-loyal.

So if you sent Mordin back with Chakwas (remember to get only Chakwas at the end you need to do a couple of missions post abduction).
Take Tali to the final fight with Miranda

That leaves you with a HtL of
Grunt, Garrus, Thane, Samara, Legion, Kasumi and Jack = Everyone survives because Grunt and Garrus ensure Kasumi and Jack survive, the rest all save themselves if all loyal.

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Okay, thanks for the answer =)

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Has anyone made a save file in where an un-loyal Grunt survives the suicide mission . I picture that he'd probably go mad or die of puberty in ME3.

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Hi there. Is there any way to get a non-loyal Tali to survive til the end of the game with only 2 people? I doubt it. But if so I'd love it. If not, if I don't recruit her and then get her non-loyal after the game (with, let's say Morinth and Kasumi as my other two) would that work (though I'd have 3)?



For some reason I love screwing with Tali, but I want her to survive to dislike me next time.

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Ignore.

Modifié par That Yellow Bastard, 17 décembre 2010 - 07:04 .


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Ecael wrote...

UPDATE (6/21): The Ultimate Guide for the Omega-4 Relay Mission is now complete!

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If you want to enable all the recruitment missions at once, look here:
http://social.biowar...5/index/1585456
(The play-through below uses the normal recruitment order without any modding, however!)

General Suicide Mission Guide here (Author - Occams Razor 17):
http://social.biowar...5/index/1121616


Trying to make Shepard the loneliest and most despised Commander in the galaxy to import for ME3, I killed 11 of 13 possible squadmates, with all dying after the Omega-4 relay (except Samara). Now the only remaining people on the Normandy SR-2 are a crippled pilot, an Asian thief, and an Asari succubus.

I had Kasumi and Morinth survive specifically because they are the least likely to show up for Mass Effect 3. Kasumi costs $7 to recruit (technically speaking) and Morinth is... well, Morinth.

All 12 loyalty missions completed. Normal recruitment mission order.

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Final Squadmates: Kasumi and Morinth
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Loyals: Jack, Jacob, Grunt, Garrus, Mordin, Legion, Thane, Kasumi, Morinth
Non-loyals: Miranda, Tali, Zaeed (avoid until later)
Normandy Upgrades: None
Chakwas & Crew: DEAD

Before the Omega-4 Relay
----Leave these quests for after the final mission:
----Zaeed Recruitment (*avoid him like the plague*)
----Zaeed Loyalty
-Side with Jack during the Miranda/Jack fight
-Hand over the evidence and traumatize Tali for her loyalty mission
-Bring Kasumi and Tali to fight the Oculus (so Legion dies)
-After the final mission, recruit Zaeed and kill him during his loyalty mission

Assignments
Vents - Jacob (dies)
Fire Team Leader - Any
Biotic - Miranda (bring Garrus and Tali, make sure Garrus dies)
Second Fire Team Leader - Grunt (dies)
Final boss squadmates - Miranda and Tali (both die)
Distraction Team - Morinth, Kasumi, Mordin (Mordin dies)

Deaths, before landing
Samara - Betrayed for Morinth, decapitated
Jack - No Armor Upgrade, laser'd
Legion - No Shield Upgrade, incinerated
Thane - No Weapon upgrade, impaled

Deaths, after landing
Jacob - Died by rocket to face
Garrus - Died by seeker swarm
Grunt - Died while closing second door
Mordin - Died holding the line, preferred to get job done and go home
Tali - Died at final boss
Miranda - Died at final boss
Zaeed - Died in a fire

-----------------
Final Squadmates: Kasumi and Morinth
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Making the stupid or Renegade choices in Mass Effect 2
-Killed as many NPCs as possible (Kal'Reegar, Sick Krogan, Jorim Talid, Sidonis, Maelon, Ronald Taylor, Forvan, etc.)
-Sent Veetor to Cerberus
-Let the Batarians kill Daniel (Mordin's assistant) so that the Blue Suns could take over the quarantine zone
-Let Dr. Archer keep David and the Overlord Project
-Destroyed the genophage cure (could have left Maelon to complete it, that would have been worse)
-Destroyed the heretic geth (could have killed Legion and left the heretics to infect everyone)
-Cerberus has the Collector base, as well as data from N7: Lost Operative
-Started a romance with Liara in ME1, gave her the wrong Observer target
-Started a romance with Jack in ME2, had her die by laser beam
-Refused to reinstate Spectre status
-Shot Conrad Verner in the foot, had Asari Merchant arrested (using Paragon option)
   -Then guilt tripped Conrad Verner by blaming him for it (using Intimidate option)
-Traumatized Tali and caused chaos in the Migrant Fleet by using the evidence, with her father declared a traitor
   -Also suggested that they go to war anyway
-Destroyed Kasumi's greybox
-Told Captain Bailey to put Kolyat in jail
-Intentionally gave the undercover reporter, Moirall, the wrong password
-Told Patriarch in Omega to die like a real Krogan, and he does
-Punched Khalisah bint Sinan Al-Jilani... again

Mass Effect 1 choices
-All killable NPCs dead (Helena Blake, Fist, Shiala, Major Kyle, Gianna, Captain Kirrahe, etc.)
-Feros colony and Noveria Peak 15 wiped out entirely
-Rachni dead
-Wrex dead
-Original Council dead, Udina for Councilor
-Started a romance with Ashley and left her to die on Virmire
-Denied Tali data for pilgrimage
-Killed Dr. Saleon without Garrus' help
-Refused to help Emily Wong
-Sacrificed workers on Asteroid X57 to kill Balak
-Punched Khalisah bint Sinan Al-Jilani

Other stuff:

Playthrough - Shepard dies:
http://social.biowar...5725/24#2405915

Playthrough - Kill all new ME2 characters:
http://social.biowar...5725/27#2643363

Playthrough - Kill everyone except Cerberus (pro-Cerberus):
http://social.biowar...5725/28#2719340

Playthrough - Kill all Cerberus personnel and biotics:
http://social.biowar...5725/28#2669230

Playthrough - Kill all except Garrus, Tali and Legion:
http://social.biowar...5725/31#2793069

you sadistic b..ch!!!:crying: i couldent have done that that would have killed me inside damn you have some wevos    -polite

#1037
TheJiveDJ

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.....what the....I don't even....damn....DAMN!!! This is so awesome that I'm gonna have to start a 7th playthrough........*sigh*....

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Im going for this playthrough also, will make my shep a lone survivor also, make it like hes got a bad habit in getting his team killed lol, will make him paragon also lol just a useless shepard haha

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Doing such a playthrough was in my mind right after the first accomplished suicide mission! with your help I will be successful in my striving.

#1040
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Not sure if this has been covered before, but if you have a loyal character that now isn't ie. jack/miranda/tali/legion that is no longer loyal on account of the there fight, do they still count as loyal for the suicide mission. I had a non-loyal Miranda (with loyalty mission), and a loyal Jack hold the line for me.

#1041
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Brandon lee Shepard wrote...
you sadistic b..ch!!!:crying: i couldent have done that that would have killed me inside damn you have some wevos    -polite


I'm even more sadistic.
Check my sig.

 -Rude:devil:

#1042
Sketchy77

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How would this be possible without kasumi?



I want to try for a save like this myself

#1043
E-MailA.K.A.Mr.Fox

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lol i just made a thread asking about this, here goes my next play thru for my ruthless and sole survivor Shepard.

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Is it possible to do a playthrough where only Zaeed and Morinth survive?

I've been running the numbers in my head and the only way I can think is if you got Morinth AFTER the suicide mission.

Deaths:
Jack: No armor
Legion: No shielding
Thane:No cannons
Garrus:Tech death
Grunt:Killed by swarm because of failed biotic (Miranda would be that Biotic maybe unloyal samara)
Jacob: Second fire team leader dies
Tali: Dies escorting

Loyal Zaeed and Unloyal Miranda fight main boss Miranda dies

Samara, Mordin, Kasumi hold the line Samara's defense score is 1 and only she should live.

Then do Samara's Loyalty mission and get morinth.

If the above will work is it possible to bring Morinth with you to the suicide mission and still only have Zaeed and Morinth Survive?

Modifié par Valentine105, 27 janvier 2011 - 06:58 .


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Is it possible to have only loyal legion or garrus and non loyal tali survive, or both garrus And legion with non loyal tali?

#1046
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Ecael wrote...

And here's the one with 12 (Kasumi and Zaeed DLCs):

*Pro-Cerberus*

All 12 loyalty missions completed.


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Final Squadmates: Miranda and Jacob
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Loyals: Miranda, Jack, Jacob, Grunt, Garrus, Mordin, Legion, Thane, Kasumi
Non-loyals: Tali, Samara (Do not recruit Zaeed yet!)
Normandy Upgrades: None
Chakwas & Crew: Cerberus Crew survives

Before the Omega-4 Relay
-Do NOT recruit Zaeed until after the final mission
-Go through the Omega-4 Relay immediately after abduction to save the crew
-Either side with Miranda or resolve the Miranda/Jack fight
-Hand over the evidence and traumatize Tali for her loyalty mission
-Mess up Samara's loyalty quest by scaring Morinth away when you meet her
-Bring Tali and Kasumi to the Oculus fight
-Recruit Zaeed after and do his loyalty quest and go Paragon (leave him in the fire)

Assignments
Vents - Garrus (dies)
Fire Team Leader - Any
Biotic - Samara (bring Grunt and Miranda, Grunt dies)
Second Fire Team Leader - Kasumi (dies)
Escort - Jacob
Final boss squadmates - Tali and Samara (both die)
Distraction Team - Miranda, Mordin (Mordin dies)

Deaths, before landing
Jack - No Armor Upgrade, laser'd
Legion - No Shield Upgrade, incinerated
Thane - No Weapon upgrade, impaled

Deaths, after landing
Garrus - Died by rocket to face
Grunt - Died by seeker swarm
Kasumi - Died while closing second door
Mordin - Died holding the line, preferred to get job done and go home
Tali - Died at final boss
Samara - Died at final boss
Zaeed - Died in a fire

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Final Squadmates: Miranda and Jacob
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Linking to this on the main thread.


And what happens if one does recruit Zaeed and kills him before the mission? What´s the issue? Dead is dead, or isn´t it? :D

#1047
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Arrival DLC

There's a bad ending cinematic with TIM/squadmates

Has anyone gotten to that ending using ecael's walkthrough?

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I saw a guide on how to only let Garrus and Tali survive but it called for multiple loyalties. I've contructed a playthrough where shephard only cares about Tali and Garrus and there only does the loyalty missions for those two.

Upgraded armor only, Kasumi and Thane die
Jacob as vent specialists and dies while Zaeed leads fireteam
Samara as biotic and jack as teammate dies and Zaeed as fireteam leader and dies
Legion as escort and dies
Garrus and Samara in final fight where Samara dies.
Tali, Miranda and Mordin holding the line where Miranda and mordin die (rather got job done and go home)

Note: I decided not to open Grunt's tank because I deemed him not worth the risk to open. I decided to base all my decisions not on earlier playthrough but on what shephard (read me) wouldve done.

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It is possible to make a save with only one squad member alive.

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Midey wrote...

It is possible to make a save with only one squad member alive.


No. If there is only one or no squadmembers left, Shepard falls to his death in the end.