112 réponses à ce sujet

[BattleVisor]

The issue is not colour, it is the names


Firstly, I would like to say my ideal mass effect world is not true actual representation of world demographics. In fact I would prefer a compromise, where there is atleast a visible effort was seen where you would actually notice the actual diversity of people. For those who want to know my nationality; I am British.


Population of North America and Europe is only about a billion, that is only one sixth
(~17%) of the world's population, Population of people of Anglo Saxon origin, is even lower, much
lower!!!!  BUT NOT according to mass effect.



Off the top of my head I can probably recall a handful of characters in the game, that were eastern (75% of the world's population)

Emily Wong
Zaeed Massani
Admiral Kuhoku
Samesh Bhatia

All minor characters, except Zaeed, but he is  a DLC.


Now consider all the major human characters:

Miranda Lawson
Ashley Williams
Kaidan Alenko
Jacob Taylor
David Anderson
Jeff "Joker" Moreau
Yeomen Chambers
Navigator Pressley

All these names are of European origin.

The trend is apparent throughout mass effect universe, heck I dont even recall any character of spanish origin.

Its funny how EDI says in the end, the human DNA is useful because of the diversity of humans, what diversity, everyone is european/american apparently.

well this so called diversity is poorly done in Mass effect, that it gets to the point of slight irritation. Especially in todays world, when the president of the US himself has a name of Middle Eastern Origin. Though I have to say the books do a much better job.

PS I dont care about the protaganist choice of name: Shepard. Cos that was actually a perfect choice. Shepard is universally symbolic IMO for specific reasons.

Those who say its because the space faring character are from richer parts of the world, (not only is that a racist view of the future) but its pretty wrong, since the book says Kahlee Sanders was from the Texan Megalopis (modern day texas) which was one of the poorest places on Earth, but she managed just fine.

Modifié par BattleVisor, 13 février 2010 - 03:33 .

[KainrycKarr]

...Being a little nitpicky aren't we?

[XX55XX]

It's a video game about the future. Relax.

[DarthCaine]

Who cares, it's just a game (I'm from Europe)

Almost every game has an American protagonist

[Giantevilhead]

You're counting two black characters as people of European descent?

[KBGeller]

XX55XX wrote...

It's a video game about the future. Relax.

win.

[WoodWizzard87]

Yet every other species in the game are the same color and usually look unisex. Hmm.....

[BattleVisor]

Giantevilhead wrote...

You're counting two black characters as people of European descent?

Their names are anglo-saxon, therefore african-american, therefore american.

Modifié par BattleVisor, 13 février 2010 - 03:14 .

[NoUserNameHere]

It's the future. People can mix and match names all they want.



I think Ash and Kaiden are rather ethnically ambigous, really. TV tropes back me up on this, and we all know that it is gospel.



Jacob doesn't seem very AngloEuropean. Just sayin'.



Oh, and Shep can be whatever you, the player, wants. Mine mainShep is vaguely korean, my FemShep is ganguro, and my RenegadeShep is default.

[Sapienti]

Well its a videogame. You are being nitpicky. And at the rate the population is going ethnic differences will likely be very "blurry" in 2183. Who cares if about names? They don't say much about anything.

[Console Cowboy]

i thought Ash looked Hispanic.

[Doomhams]

Also, not all of Earth is rich and gloriously space bound. The poorer nations are still stuck on earth living lives in a place that is like Los Angeles on a bad smog day.

Modifié par Doomhams, 13 février 2010 - 03:20 .

[tmp7704]

BattleVisor wrote...

Now consider all the major human characters:

Miranda Lawson
Ashley Williams
Kaidan Alenko
Jacob Taylor
David Anderson
Jeff "Joker" Moreau

All these names are of European origin.

I imagine it might have something to do with fairly easier access to English-speaking rather than Chinese VAs.

[WoodWizzard87]

BattleVisor wrote...

Giantevilhead wrote...

You're counting two black characters as people of European descent?

Their names are anglo-saxon, therefore african-american, therefore american.

What about black people born in the U.S., with crazy african names?

Modifié par WoodWizzard87, 13 février 2010 - 03:26 .

[Jigero]

Oh it's another one of those "my Science fiction game is too fictional threads."

Also your forgetting Cereburus is private sector, not military, it could be a European/ American Organization.

Modifié par Jigero, 13 février 2010 - 03:26 .

[Gemini1179]

*sigh* So if there were only 10 characters, one being black, one white, one French, Russian, Itialian, Japanese, Indian, Chinese, British, and Spanish would you say the Chinese are not proberly represented because in our world they represent almost 1/5th the world's population?



These threads are getting more frequent and more silly.



I think I'm going to start a thread about how everyone in the ME universe seems to be in incredible shape thereby demonstrating proof of BioWare's discrimination against over-weight people...



**rolling eyes**

[silentstephi]

I think this is the phase where people are starting to run out of things to kibitz about?

[Kolaris8472]

I've known Asians with European names and visa versa...your basis is, well, flawed. A name is sometimes just a name.

[WoodWizzard87]

Gemini1179 wrote...

*sigh* So if there were only 10 characters, one being black, one white, one French, Russian, Itialian, Japanese, Indian, Chinese, British, and Spanish would you say the Chinese are not proberly represented because in our world they represent almost 1/5th the world's population?

These threads are getting more frequent and more silly.

I think I'm going to start a thread about how everyone in the ME universe seems to be in incredible shape thereby demonstrating proof of BioWare's discrimination against over-weight people...

**rolling eyes**

Volus' are funny though

[Sapienti]

WoodWizzard87 wrote...

BattleVisor wrote...

Giantevilhead wrote...

You're counting two black characters as people of European descent?

Their names are anglo-saxon, therefore african-american, therefore american.

What about black people born in the U.S., with crazy african names?

I'm black, my last name is Cobbs, apparently European. And then we have my friend Ayo. Whos full name is something like Ayotunde Cajupai or something like that (and this other guy named Onechojon). Whats in a name? Lol.

[MatronAdena]

going by the books, humanity is NOTHING like it is now...what WE consider diversity really has gone to the way side, pretty much everyone is a mutt of many cultures, many recessive traits are gone completely or damn near gone.

that being said compared to the other (much older, or much faster reproducing species) we are the more genetically diverse species.



and a name is just a name... one of my closest friends is named Simba, he's from Morocco, his last name is Wilson...merriage, or adoptions someplace in a family line can sorta flop around last names.

[enormousmoonboots]

Kaidan's probably at least partially Singaporean, actually, given that's where his pregnant mother was exposed to eezo. I recall reading someone claiming that his first name is Japanese, though I have no source for that.

[BattleVisor]

Im not being nitpicking, its horrendous, when virtually all characters have european names. If there were atleast 10% that didn't. Then I wouldn't have made this thread

[BattleVisor]

Kolaris8472 wrote...

I've known Asians with European names and visa versa...your basis is, well, flawed. A name is sometimes just a name.

No its not flawed, since these exceptions should cancel each other out.

[Mikazukinoyaiba2]

We already had a troll make this topic earlier today.