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[Randir Nuithannen]

Why or why not?

I tried to kill Connor.  -- and I do not think it should've been a negative choice

My justification:  My first character was a mage, and I understood the Fade.

Connor, being a highly untrained mage is vulnverable to the fade and to the demons within it.  Even if I spared his life and dealt with the Demon he would dream again and once again be vulnerable to Demons.  So basically even if I spared his life he could easily fall prey to a Demon once again.  He had some power, knew how to use it, minorly, and was a threat outside of the mage tower.  That and he had already shown the inability to withstand Demons.

In truth -- I tried to kill Connor the first time.  But the magical suits of armor killed me.  So I got annoyed and instead sacrificed his mother.

Overall I was not in a "nice" mood.

My character is a good character -- however the whole situation annoyed him.  He had to fight through a horde of undead, after cajolling the town into actually standing together against the onslaught.

He had to fight through a castle of undead and shades.

He got slaughtered by a revenant three times.  THREE TIMES.

And once he ascends to the throne room there is a little boy, a dancing lunatic, and that bit--I mean wench who knew what was going on all along.

And she kept crying and moaning and wailing woe is me.  When it was frankly her to blame for all this nonsense anyhow.

My character was VERY steamed under the collar.

So yes I tried to kill the boy, and I feel as if I am justified.



EDIT: Edited thread title. No spoilers in thread title, please.

Modifié par Randir Nuithannen, 06 novembre 2009 - 11:03 .

[Andrew Eric Knight]

DO NOT PUT SPOILERS IN THE THREAD TITLE

[Randir Nuithannen]

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[Andrew Eric Knight]

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[David Gaider]

Randir Nuithannen wrote...
I tried to kill Connor.  -- and I do not think it should've been a negative choice

You might not think it's negative, but at least some of the party members are going to disagree -- some people are going to think killing an innocent child is a bad thing when other options are available, no matter what you say. There's no clear "good" choice nor a clear "bad" choice, as in many other places in the game.

[abominare]

I killed him,I dont think the game tries to classify your action into good or bad but lets you decide whether or not it was good or bad. People react differently though to your option. Alistar of course will think badly of this option because of a personal relationship with the family for example.


My character was a little impatient and I reluctantly chose to get help from the mages but after a quick argument with wynn and morrigan the tower was purged and no one was left to help, Alistar potentially talked about another option but character was tired of the unending  goose hunts and felt it was just best to kill the kid he was a heretic after all.

Modifié par abominare, 06 novembre 2009 - 11:14 .

[Grengrad]

I was playing a mostly good Mage character, who was highly opposed to Blood Magic, so I killed Connor.

His mother had let so many deaths happen, and clearly put Connor's life over the entire kingdoms.

Even though Wynne offered a ritual I immediately refused, because if it did not work and Connor had problems down the line, I did not trust his mom to make the hard decision.



So, I backhanded his mom, knocking her out and killed her son.



Does that make me evil, nah, that makes me the man who will get the job done.

[Calpurnea]

I kept Connor and his mom alive. And am now trying to get dad outta bed... lazy sack.

[Seagloom]

I sorta killed him in a roundabout way. It would be more apt to state I damned him to a fate worse than death. Jowan sacrificed Isolde so my character could enter the Fade. Then I made a deal with the demon that snagged me an extra talent in exchange for Connor's future life. It wasn't the most evil of evil moments I've seen in a BioWare game, but was pretty high up there. Overall, I had fun with that subplot. I'm definitely taking Alistair with me in my current game. (Last time I substituted him for Sten.)

Tip: It's possible to ask said demon to teach you blood magic, then reload your autosave and ask for something else. I didn't go through with this, and have since restarted DA, but if you want Blood Mage and don't mind squeezing out every advantage possible without opening a cheat console or some such, there it is.

Modifié par Seagloom, 06 novembre 2009 - 11:27 .

[Garagnoir]

I sacrificed his mom to save him...



Man did that ****** Alistair off.

[joebighair]

i made the mother kill the boy so i didnt do anything but alister was still pissed LOL

[Nurph]

This is were i am now and ive got a problem... I freed Jowan and chose the option to get the circle to enter the fade... and then i gave jowan the chance to redeem himself by entering the fade.. so far so good.. im now at the last encounter with the demon and have two options... converse, and attack... but both options lead immidiatly to a fight jowan cant win (playing on normal and didnt have problems with anything but revenants and the hermit yet)... i beg for some help... maybe a dev? this cant be, can it?

Modifié par Nurph, 07 novembre 2009 - 01:11 .

[jayheld90]

should have used wynne or morrigan, nurph. had no problem with it, with morrigan.

edit: or put it on easy for that batlle, and then switch it back after...

Modifié par jayheld90, 07 novembre 2009 - 01:29 .

[Nurph]

With very much luck i got her to... well.. i guess 1hp... -.- then jowan died again..
she knocks him down, then brings him to half hp... then puts up a spell shield that never wears off if im not staying and cast something on her while she beats the last hp out of jowan.. tis crazy!
wynne could heal herself for ever i guess... but i dont have an idea how morrigan should beat that **** better then jowan..

Modifié par Nurph, 07 novembre 2009 - 01:34 .

[Jide Aurelius]

I chose to let the mom sacrifice herself, she to was to blame for this situation and she freely gave her life to save her son.

[Seagloom]

Nurph wrote...

With very much luck i got her to... well.. i guess 1hp... -.- then jowan died again..
she knocks him down, then brings him to half hp... then puts up a spell shield that never wears off if im not staying and cast something on her while she beats the last hp out of jowan.. tis crazy!
wynne could heal herself for ever i guess... but i dont have an idea how morrigan should beat that **** better then jowan.

Does Jowan have any stun spells? Paralysis or Horror? Glyph of Paralysis? Maybe some cold magic? I haven't fought this encounter myself, but a generally sound tactic is to stun so you can heal up or attack unimpeded. What spells does he have available?

Modifié par Seagloom, 07 novembre 2009 - 01:42 .

[marz311]

I did not kill the boy, i went ahead and did the circle of magi quests after that and they ended up helping connor without killing him.

[Nurph]

yay... yes seagloom, the idea is pretty good, except that his only ability to heal is drain life...

he got stonefist and even paralyze what made the other encounters a joke... but in the final encounter she seems to.. well resist to 99% even without the spellshield... at least at the first try, then the spellshield is up...

but i now had luck and she did not resist stonefist and had no other chance to cast the spellshield anymore... so it was easy afterall... u just have to load until she doesnt resist the first stonefist :E



so.. for me now: boy alive, mother alive, jowan alive..

[Seagloom]

Congratulations on your victory then.

[Nurph]

Thanks..

im curios... those of you who didnt sacrifice the mother... do you have a codex entry about her giving her life away for him anyway, too? just read it while she stands in front of me :X

[AtomicPink]

I did the runabout way and went to the Circle Tower to get them to help me. My PC likes kids and she didn't want to kill one just because he was caught in a bad situation. I kind of underestimated how long that would take, but in the end Alastair was happy with me so it was all worth it. (:

[Maria Caliban]

I killed all the undead (and the suits of armor) in the house. That way, the people downstairs would be safe when I left. I went to the Circle (I'd already finished that part), easily convinced Irving to come to Redcliffe. Used Morrigan in the Fade, and saved the little boy.



I've managed to be a white knigh throughout the game. I've even let demons and blood mages run loose because they've promised to be good from now on. I hope this bites me on the ass at some point.

[MrGOH]

Maria Caliban wrote...
*snip*

I've managed to be a white knigh throughout the game. I've even let demons and blood mages run loose because they've promised to be good from now on. I hope this bites me on the ass at some point.

Don't get your hopes up.

I do wonder at the definition of a white knight if it includes letting demons run free... I played a generally good guy and I never encountered a demon that convinced me that letting it remain outside the Fade would be a good idea.