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[Inverness Moon]

A plot bunny has just reared its cute little head.



I stumbled upon a MassEffect/Halo crossover earlier and it made me contemplate the differences and similarities of AI from Halo compared to those in Mass Effect.



Your typical Mass Effect AIs use quantum blue boxes, so they are bound to their hardware and unable to transfer themselves to other machines without loosing their identity. Then we have the geth which are purely software and simulate the workings of an organic brain as a network in order to maintain sentience.



Now the AIs in Halo are created by scanning human brains and creating a digital analogue. This process destroys the organic tissue, but it can also be done on cloned organic tissue in the case of Cortana. This makes Halo AIs more similar to the geth in design than AIs that use quantum blue boxes like EDI.



Anyhow I thought it would be interesting if Shepard ended up as an AI as a result of Project Lazarus instead of the canon result. Of course I'm having trouble thinking of a good reason for this to happen. Maybe his/her body was too badly damaged or whatever, and rather than sticking him/her into a YMIR mech like I saw in two other fics, they would think he would be more useful if coverted into an AI.



Of course that would bring up the question of how would Shepard physically go on missions and stuff. Since he/she would now be a software based AI, using a geth body, seems like the easy answer. I imagine with AI capabilities like that, Shepard could hack a bunch of geth, erase the original programs and replace them with his/her own remote controls.

[Pacifien]

There's actually a bit of precendent on transferring a human consciousness to a computer from the Cerberus Daily News on President Huerta. The debate was on whether Huerta was dead before the transfer took place, as it calls into question just how much the computer is truly Huerta. Miranda mentions that there is severe neural degeneration, I believe, when they obtain Shepard's body. As the mind is simply a connection of electronic impulses in a particular pattern, I've wondered just how they can replicate the result from a brain that has degenerated and ceased to function. It would mean having a detailed analysis of Shepard's brain prior, a possibility if he was a biotic in need of significant implants along the entire nervous system or perhaps part of an Alliance physical.

Anyway, even the slightest change in the brain could lead to alteration of character, much as the quantum blueboxes. Then again, there has been evidence of people who have suffered brain damage who have successfully rerouted function to another part of the brain without evidence of being an altered individual.

The Geth do have a similarity to quantum blueboxes in a way, though. Legion has 1,183 programs downloaded into the hardware platform, though they are also backed up in some other geth database. Everything these programs have experienced within the Legion platform has diverged from that of the original programs, only converging again when Legion connects to the Collective to access or share data. The longer Legion remains in separation, the more he becomes unique from his original state.

Not only that, but if they had to rebuild Legion, his memory only goes up to the point of his last upload. Every memory from that point diverges from the potential memories Legion could have had if he not been damaged enough to be replaced. Even if they decided to duplicate Legion into a second concurrent platform, the memories are different and so will the personality be different, either slightly or significantly.

[Inverness Moon]

To expand on what I said before. In the story, Cerberus could used a salvaged geth body, gutting it and replacing it with their own technology that the Shepard AI could download into and use to control the body. Since its salvaged it wouldn't have head flaps or anything. But then, the rumors that Shepard is back as a geth floating around the extranet could gain more attention from the true geth than it normally would, enough for Legion to make a small diversion from his mission to the derelict reaper. Then he could meet Shepard early, and Legion would decide to upgrade that body with some of their technology: improved shielding, the Widow, and head-flaps.

Maybe you could write something like this instead if your other thing isn't moving along, Kikai. 

Modifié par Inverness Moon, 16 juillet 2010 - 04:29 .

[Pacifien]

I have this image of Boomer from the rebooted BSG series screaming in horror when she woke up in the tank and realized she really was a Cylon. Geth Shepard is not Happy Shepard.

[Inverness Moon]

Well there would be times for angst and all those philosophical questions. But I imagine Shepard would be more concerned about stopping the reapers. Shepard is an N7 and most likely went through all kinds of mental training. Waking up one day as an AI controlling a geth body certainly wasn't part of that, but I imagine focusing on the mission over other personal matters was.

I imagine the confrontation with Tali would be particularly interesting.

Besides, it's not really the same thing in the Mass Effect universe. As Anderson said, geth aren't the bogeymen than they used to be after 2 years.

Modifié par Inverness Moon, 16 juillet 2010 - 06:15 .

[Pacifien]

They still aren't allowed to infiltrate the Citadel.

[Inverness Moon]

Pacifien wrote...

They still aren't allowed to infiltrate the Citadel.

It's not like they know a geth when they see it. =P

[CroGamer002]

Inverness Moon wrote...

Pacifien wrote...

They still aren't allowed to infiltrate the Citadel.

It's not like they know a geth when they see it. =P

If your security doesn't know how enemy looks like then you are certenly f*cked.

[Cra5y Pineapple]

Mesina2 wrote...

Inverness Moon wrote...

Pacifien wrote...

They still aren't allowed to infiltrate the Citadel.

It's not like they know a geth when they see it. =P

If your security doesn't know how enemy looks like then you are certenly f*cked.

She confuses me. She doesn't let a group of innocent Asari through but does let through a robot that happens to look exactly like a geth

[Inverness Moon]

Cra5y Pineapple wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

Inverness Moon wrote...

Pacifien wrote...

They still aren't allowed to infiltrate the Citadel.

It's not like they know a geth when they see it. =P

If your security doesn't know how enemy looks like then you are certenly f*cked.

She confuses me. She doesn't let a group of innocent Asari through but does let through a robot that happens to look exactly like a geth

There is nothing confusing about stupid people, imho.

Modifié par Inverness Moon, 16 juillet 2010 - 09:45 .

[Kikaimegami]

Hey now, geth don't intentionally infiltrate.

[RobotNixon]

Kikaimegami wrote...

Hey now, geth don't intentionally infiltrate.

Not even after a few drinks?

[RobotNixon]

Inverness Moon wrote...

Cra5y Pineapple wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

Inverness Moon wrote...

Pacifien wrote...

They still aren't allowed to infiltrate the Citadel.

It's not like they know a geth when they see it. =P

If your security doesn't know how enemy looks like then you are certenly f*cked.

She confuses me. She doesn't let a group of innocent Asari through but does let through a robot that happens to look exactly like a geth

There is nothing confusing about stupid people, imho.

It's a commentary on modern Air Port security.

[Kikaimegami]

RobotNixon wrote...

Kikaimegami wrote...

Hey now, geth don't intentionally infiltrate.

Not even after a few drinks?

I'm not sure you can classify that as "infiltrating"

[Kikaimegami]

[RobotNixon]

Kikaimegami wrote...

RobotNixon wrote...

Kikaimegami wrote...

Hey now, geth don't intentionally infiltrate.

Not even after a few drinks?

I'm not sure you can classify that as "infiltrating"

It's what comes after the beverages that I'm referring to.

[Kikaimegami]

RobotNixon wrote...

It's what comes after the beverages that I'm referring to.

And I mean that I don't think you can count stumbling around, belting out showtunes as infiltrating

[RobotNixon]

Kikaimegami wrote...

RobotNixon wrote...

It's what comes after the beverages that I'm referring to.

And I mean that I don't think you can count stumbling around, belting out showtunes as infiltrating

Right then. *Zips pants*

[Kikaimegami]

RobotNixon wrote...

Right then. *Zips pants*

[RobotNixon]

Kikaimegami wrote...

RobotNixon wrote...

Right then. *Zips pants*

What? I was putting on a belt.

Blue jeans don't exactly agree with a Turian's thin waistline without support.

[Kikaimegami]

RobotNixon wrote...

What? I was putting on a belt.

Blue jeans don't exactly agree with a Turian's thin waistline without support.

So you're saying your waist isn't supportive enough?

[RobotNixon]

Kikaimegami wrote...

RobotNixon wrote...

What? I was putting on a belt.

Blue jeans don't exactly agree with a Turian's thin waistline without support.

So you're saying your waist isn't supportive enough?

I set you up for that one.

[Privateerkev]

Kikaimegami wrote...

Does that mean he would have "beer-flashlights"?

[RobotNixon]

Privateerkev wrote...

Kikaimegami wrote...

Does that mean he would have "beer-flashlights"?

That means he has something in common with Bender.

Can Legion get any f*cking cooler?

[Andaius20]

Bletch fire, and make shinny metal ass coments?